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Rivero campaign kick-off, free event, free appetizers. This Saturday August 14th from 5PM to 8PM at Konocti Vista Casino in Lakeport, come one, come all, even if you are not yet a supporter and just want to talk to Frank Rivero one-on-one.
Ron Green
Ron Green
What we are telling you is it needs to be an outside agency and we cannot trust the DA in Hoppy and we all know we cannot trust Mitchell, so that begs the question what in the hell are you talking about? Post 737
KVC is about the only place Retardo could have a fund drive. Good luck with that group the in-fighting with them started and they fired their CEO and brought back some tribe members to work gaming that had been fired for drunken conduct. One part of the tribe is trying to remove the controlling group. A prize group of people no doubt.
Well there we go the intellectual level of conversation just dropped a thousand points down, thanks for the kind thoughts and as usual a clear display of Mitchell supporter mentality.
To: August 10, 2010 4:24 PM
I don't know where you get your BS from but when an illegal or any person is arrested for cultivation, that person is arrested and booked into jail. There is no section in the Penal Code that allows for arrest and release on a citation for cultivation.
I have lost count on the amount of cultivation cases LCSO handled that I've been assisted with. In all no one was ever issued a citation and released. You facts are nothing but wrong.
As for you comment that I'm an "idiot", I ask you to prove your statement. What person had been "sent on his way" or "issued a citation" in lieu of arrest. That sir never happened.
I never denied the "sneak attack". Deputies do approach a site as quietly as possible. They use camouflage to cover their approach or reconnaissance. This is specially true when intel shows they have weapons or we can not confirm weapons are there. Are you stupid enough to think deputies are going to blindly walk into a grow knowing the growers have guns? Are you that stupid! As for chasing the suspect, I can point out several injuries from Brooks, Riveria and others from chasing them. Talk to the former USDA Ranger who had his K9 hit over the head by a fleeing grower.
I'll tell you, why don't we just get a giant megaphone, mount it on a helicopter, fly over the forests and tell the growers to give up. You really live in a fantasy land.
I don't know where you get your BS from but when an illegal or any person is arrested for cultivation, that person is arrested and booked into jail. There is no section in the Penal Code that allows for arrest and release on a citation for cultivation.
I have lost count on the amount of cultivation cases LCSO handled that I've been assisted with. In all no one was ever issued a citation and released. You facts are nothing but wrong.
As for you comment that I'm an "idiot", I ask you to prove your statement. What person had been "sent on his way" or "issued a citation" in lieu of arrest. That sir never happened.
I never denied the "sneak attack". Deputies do approach a site as quietly as possible. They use camouflage to cover their approach or reconnaissance. This is specially true when intel shows they have weapons or we can not confirm weapons are there. Are you stupid enough to think deputies are going to blindly walk into a grow knowing the growers have guns? Are you that stupid! As for chasing the suspect, I can point out several injuries from Brooks, Riveria and others from chasing them. Talk to the former USDA Ranger who had his K9 hit over the head by a fleeing grower.
I'll tell you, why don't we just get a giant megaphone, mount it on a helicopter, fly over the forests and tell the growers to give up. You really live in a fantasy land.
Hey 804, it worked during the Primary's so who the "Retardo". Oh I know, you forget Rivero had it at KVC before and kicked Mitchell's butt. What the heck does the activities of the casino have with Rivero? Rivero is not running for CEO of the casinio, he is running for CEO of the Sheriff's Office!
Well post 832 at least we got you communicating, that's a start. If you read the post you will see that we did indicate that at times there would be a chase, but that is more rare then it is common. Your childish simplification of the matter and the use of giant megaphones. You know as well as anyone the careful planning that can go into a raid. In case you forgot the end game last week it was the death of a human being shot 6 times with a three fire triggered twice. Now you can paint the sweetest little picture you want but you damn well that could have been a cop dead, and you know the best thing to do after these types of incidents is to review be transparent, and improve so the next time a life does not have to be taken.
You totally disregard the possibilities of a safer announced approach, and yet admit the sneak attack is what they do. You make our point for us.
The question of you asking "which person" was sent on their way. Oh so just like give you names and places where this may have happened, sort of a silly question don't you think. Don't be naive it happens all the time, and you also know that the safest move in regards to a fleeing illegal off a grow is not to chase the guy down and rampage through the dense forest in the process. That is a no-brainer.
By the way what does a SO do with an illegal who is just working on a vehicle in a place where processing is going on but he is not doing any of the processing. You get the idea of the question, they don't have him for processing, they send him on his way, happens all the time.
Again the position is simple on this, fully investigate with full disclosure, set an agenda to review and improve the process and approach, get out of the paradigm of thinking the way you do it is perfect. Its not. Remember it was a human being tending a couple hundred plants.
You totally disregard the possibilities of a safer announced approach, and yet admit the sneak attack is what they do. You make our point for us.
The question of you asking "which person" was sent on their way. Oh so just like give you names and places where this may have happened, sort of a silly question don't you think. Don't be naive it happens all the time, and you also know that the safest move in regards to a fleeing illegal off a grow is not to chase the guy down and rampage through the dense forest in the process. That is a no-brainer.
By the way what does a SO do with an illegal who is just working on a vehicle in a place where processing is going on but he is not doing any of the processing. You get the idea of the question, they don't have him for processing, they send him on his way, happens all the time.
Again the position is simple on this, fully investigate with full disclosure, set an agenda to review and improve the process and approach, get out of the paradigm of thinking the way you do it is perfect. Its not. Remember it was a human being tending a couple hundred plants.
Mitchell=
M- mismanaged
I- incompetent
C- corrupt
H- hater
E- ego driven
L- Looser
L- Leach
Can't supervise Perdock or Garzoli, promotes a deputy to captain with only four years of supervisory experience and even less supervising deputies.
Can't read a simple DEA grant.
Can't even keep his Dic@)*% in his pants.
M- mismanaged
I- incompetent
C- corrupt
H- hater
E- ego driven
L- Looser
L- Leach
Can't supervise Perdock or Garzoli, promotes a deputy to captain with only four years of supervisory experience and even less supervising deputies.
Can't read a simple DEA grant.
Can't even keep his Dic@)*% in his pants.
I tell you want, contact Brooks and tell him you want to lead the next grow raid. I want to see you just walk into a manned garden without a gun and tell them to give up.
You wrote: The question of you asking "which person" was sent on their way. Oh so just like give you names and places where this may have happened, sort of a silly question don't you think. Don't be naive it happens all the time, and you also know that the safest move in regards to a fleeing illegal off a grow is not to chase the guy down and rampage through the dense forest in the process. That is a no-brainer.
My response: Why don't you ask you friend Beland, Ringen or Rivero if that even happened. It never happened and they will second that. Ask your buddy Edd Lepp when his workers were arrested and booked right along with him for cultavation.
My response: Why don't you ask you friend Beland, Ringen or Rivero if that even happened. It never happened and they will second that. Ask your buddy Edd Lepp when his workers were arrested and booked right along with him for cultavation.
Remember the perdick investigation . Where nine people testified the lights were on and not one of those were named in the investigation and after giving the names of all witnesses to private investigator some of those names were erased from RiMS . Yeah we trust Rodney .
If you are talking about single incident that went the way you said fine, we did not say 100% of all busts go down the way we described, read what we are writing your whitewashing the statements incorrectly. Why are side-stepping such a simple recommendation and one that can save cops lives.
Oh bye the way have never known Edd Lepp so can't help you with that one.
Although now it appears the reality of it is come clear. You just hate pot period, you have a stigma which you can't shake. Stop taking it in such a paranoid manner, it is going to be legalized you know it, This whole conversation will be mote soon enough.
Oh bye the way have never known Edd Lepp so can't help you with that one.
Although now it appears the reality of it is come clear. You just hate pot period, you have a stigma which you can't shake. Stop taking it in such a paranoid manner, it is going to be legalized you know it, This whole conversation will be mote soon enough.
August 9, 2010 8:33 PM
Hey Jim,
I've been through what your going through right now. Several times as a young man. Hang tough brotha. I'm just saying that as one person to another. One human being to another. I have been promised things in the past. I have had people say that they have my back only to find out I am standing all alone.
The process and the service can be brutal. I lost friends. People died, some at their own hands others accidents and not so accidents.
No one cares about you. No debriefing, nothing. They burn through allot of people that way.
I am still here. I developed other life skills. when I went back into the military others joked and said if I am ever taken POW my captors would eventually kill them self's. sweeeet..
Time and pressure, like Shaw Shank redemption.
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I am stronger now. You will be too, once you separate completely from that which you think you most desire. It's not about justice. It's about politics. All the training goes completely out the window. It's every man for himself. If someone makes you a promise it means nothing unless it is in writing. I'm actually grateful for my experiences because I treat everyone as if they are a liar.
RedC
Hey Jim,
I've been through what your going through right now. Several times as a young man. Hang tough brotha. I'm just saying that as one person to another. One human being to another. I have been promised things in the past. I have had people say that they have my back only to find out I am standing all alone.
The process and the service can be brutal. I lost friends. People died, some at their own hands others accidents and not so accidents.
No one cares about you. No debriefing, nothing. They burn through allot of people that way.
I am still here. I developed other life skills. when I went back into the military others joked and said if I am ever taken POW my captors would eventually kill them self's. sweeeet..
Time and pressure, like Shaw Shank redemption.
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I am stronger now. You will be too, once you separate completely from that which you think you most desire. It's not about justice. It's about politics. All the training goes completely out the window. It's every man for himself. If someone makes you a promise it means nothing unless it is in writing. I'm actually grateful for my experiences because I treat everyone as if they are a liar.
RedC
Jim who? Beland? That guy's a complete moron. Mr. Toughguy slapping subordinates who hate him in the head. Can't remember who ordered him, if he was ordered or what he did after obtaining the blood sample. Good riddance! Hey, heard back yet from the arbitrator?
Also here's another little gem about your hero, rivzero.
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Word has come in to our office that the opponent has still refused to agree to all of the debates. Agreeing to only one of the four challenges so far.
Wasn't he the candidate that put out a challenge in the newspaper? Didn't he want multiple debates? Why hasn't he even responded? What is he afraid of?
He's afraid of the public seeing more of his temper tantrums and realizing how unqualified and out-classed he really is.
More on this later.
Also here's another little gem about your hero, rivzero.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________
Word has come in to our office that the opponent has still refused to agree to all of the debates. Agreeing to only one of the four challenges so far.
Wasn't he the candidate that put out a challenge in the newspaper? Didn't he want multiple debates? Why hasn't he even responded? What is he afraid of?
He's afraid of the public seeing more of his temper tantrums and realizing how unqualified and out-classed he really is.
VoteNoRivero: Good try Rod and gang but you are full of hot air. It's Mitchell who has been ducking debates fearing that another argry husband that he's "longcocked" will appear and front him out again. People have asked to hear both candidates debate as well as hear what they have to say by themselves. So far RKM is still hiding under his rock.
So far the only groups Mitchell will address are those in his pocket who will not ask him any difficult questions. He's the hero of the special interest groups who he tells what they want to hear. Could there be something in it for them?
Mitchell can't debate one on one because every time he does he looks like a fool waiving his papers and throwing out his manipulated statistics. He sings to the birds and the bees about how much he loves them, he loves the trees and he loves Lake County. At least he can't shaft the birds and the bees.
Mitchell has a total melt down each time he is questioned or someone disagrees with him. He hates Rivero and that could not be more obvious.
Granted he did get Rivero to last out back at him for his misinformation and alteration of other people's statements. Rivero repeatedly asked him to make a decision on his politically motivated IA complasints and still he sits back holding it over his head. Unfair and unethical if not criminal.
For those who are concerned about Rivero I urge you to take the time to talk to him in person. Ask whatever you want. I think you'll find him far more open then Mitchell and you will get an answer. That's something new.
All the candidates are kicking off the final campaigns going into the November election. Now is their change to show the people what they are made of and what they will do.
So far the only groups Mitchell will address are those in his pocket who will not ask him any difficult questions. He's the hero of the special interest groups who he tells what they want to hear. Could there be something in it for them?
Mitchell can't debate one on one because every time he does he looks like a fool waiving his papers and throwing out his manipulated statistics. He sings to the birds and the bees about how much he loves them, he loves the trees and he loves Lake County. At least he can't shaft the birds and the bees.
Mitchell has a total melt down each time he is questioned or someone disagrees with him. He hates Rivero and that could not be more obvious.
Granted he did get Rivero to last out back at him for his misinformation and alteration of other people's statements. Rivero repeatedly asked him to make a decision on his politically motivated IA complasints and still he sits back holding it over his head. Unfair and unethical if not criminal.
For those who are concerned about Rivero I urge you to take the time to talk to him in person. Ask whatever you want. I think you'll find him far more open then Mitchell and you will get an answer. That's something new.
All the candidates are kicking off the final campaigns going into the November election. Now is their change to show the people what they are made of and what they will do.
Yeah right, Rivero beat Mitchell in every debate. Mitchell is the manic- depressant, angry, crybaby corrupt cheating Ahole. Try something different Sarah and say hi to Joe and Gary.
Interesting how Mitchell's henchmen are now attacking Beland who has the nerve to appeal his termination. Isn't that his right if he feels he was discriminated against or wrongfully punished. What's happines when it's you that Mitchell casts aside with no thought to your loyal support? He will you know.
I've never seen a group of people who are so willing to eat their own. In my time we called people like this back stabbing AH'a which is a description that fits their boss right down the line.
If by some slim chance and I don't believe this will happen that Mitchell should pull the votes then you people and we tax paying voters will get just what we deserve.
I've never seen a group of people who are so willing to eat their own. In my time we called people like this back stabbing AH'a which is a description that fits their boss right down the line.
If by some slim chance and I don't believe this will happen that Mitchell should pull the votes then you people and we tax paying voters will get just what we deserve.
Vote No Rivero relax there will be debates your getting quite worked up over nothing. The campaign's will move toward November, take your time you will have enough to worry about covering and reacting to what is still to come Mitchell's way. Your not going to have much time to try and use Rhonda Rully tactics.
Jim Beland handles himself just fine we don't have to answer for him, and we suspect you won't like the experience so you might want to think twice on getting froggy. We have watched his responses and comments on this site and you ain't sharp enough,
So listen, take it easy this is a long road, keep your cool, but plan ahead, don't look at the citizens as an enemy but a change agent toward something you just don't understand yet.It will be alright, really.
Jim Beland handles himself just fine we don't have to answer for him, and we suspect you won't like the experience so you might want to think twice on getting froggy. We have watched his responses and comments on this site and you ain't sharp enough,
So listen, take it easy this is a long road, keep your cool, but plan ahead, don't look at the citizens as an enemy but a change agent toward something you just don't understand yet.It will be alright, really.
OWD - Isn't this just exactly what the people of Lake County are so concerned with? The fact that Mitchell and his gang see us as the enemy. Hell, who pays their salary. Who is their boss?
Perhaps you people who see the citizens of Lake County as your enemy have no place in public service and you may be much happier moving to Safeway with Mitchell.
Perhaps you people who see the citizens of Lake County as your enemy have no place in public service and you may be much happier moving to Safeway with Mitchell.
I for one am getting very tired of listening to Mitchell's special squad of loyal supporters making excuses for their boy while attacking everyone who disagrees with him. What do you think the LCSO needs to restore public trust and confidence? What must you do to become a professional law enforcement agency that you can be proud of being a part of and that has the respect of the community?
Or, do you feel you have the confidence and respect of the community.
Or, do you feel you have the confidence and respect of the community.
Ya post 1032 absolute power corrupts absolutely...This is an entrenched network established over 15 years, we are essentially riping them out by their roots, because it really is a death that is happening, the death of the GOB/elitist system of governing, cover-up, collusion, nepotism, bad leadership and zero transparency. So the citizens are seen as adversary's to them. Not all deputies,.. there are many good cops out there but they are trapped by the Mitchell system.
I'm wondering what's up with these few deputies who are out front staunch supporters of Mitchell? What do you think he is going to do for you? Do you actually believe he has the slightest bit of loyalty to you and your family?
Again with quatity instead of quality. Nothing you say changes the fact that Rivero is ducking the debates the Sheriff has offered. As for Beland, well we don't have the arbitrator's response back yet do we? Although nothing the arbitrator says changes the fact that he's ill suited for police work.
OWD you are 100% correct in saying there are a majority of good hard working deputies at LCSO who are trapped by the system. I feel it is a small minority of people who think Mitchell is a good leader. I really question the thiinking of these people. I don't think one has to be an Inestein to see there is something radically wrong with their department and if those people can't see it then perhaps we don't need them either.
I do not believe these self serving yes men really speak for the majority of that department. The really smart ones are those whokeep their mouth shut fearing retaliation by the administration. In November vote for what you see as right and I think we'll see a change of command for the better and with it a much needed and long overdue change of attitude.
I do not believe these self serving yes men really speak for the majority of that department. The really smart ones are those whokeep their mouth shut fearing retaliation by the administration. In November vote for what you see as right and I think we'll see a change of command for the better and with it a much needed and long overdue change of attitude.
The arbitrator is going to swing which ever way the county wants them to swing if they want to be called back to LC. It's a question of money and security. They don't care about an individual deputy.
Who the hell made you the expert on who is suited for police work? You are coming from a department that is considered a joke in the profession thanks to your boss Rodney Mitchell. If you think that's BS then perhaps you need to get away and ask around. With your attitude I question your suitability for police work and public service.
You see us an your enemy, why? Because we disagree with you or because we see through your smoke and hot air. Wake up, you work for us.
Who the hell made you the expert on who is suited for police work? You are coming from a department that is considered a joke in the profession thanks to your boss Rodney Mitchell. If you think that's BS then perhaps you need to get away and ask around. With your attitude I question your suitability for police work and public service.
You see us an your enemy, why? Because we disagree with you or because we see through your smoke and hot air. Wake up, you work for us.
VoteNoRivero - It's past your bed time, you should leave intelligent discussion to the adults. If you are having trouble sleeping then go out and see if you can find your Sheriff at this hour. I'm sure Mrs. M would love to knnow where the crime fighter is.
It's 10:55 PM (2255 hours do you know where your Sheriff is?
Goodnight Lake County, sleep tight in the knowledge that in January you will be safe again.
Goodnight Lake County, sleep tight in the knowledge that in January you will be safe again.
Well if there are a majority of good hard working deputies at LCSO (Which I happen to agree with) why do none of them support your candidate? Why was the endorsement vote, an secret ballot, 44-0 in favor of the current sheriff. You want to both ways, but even your candidate has labeled them all as racists and incompetent. Now as soon as Riveloser is fired and with Beland, Lande and Ringen gone, the percentage of good cops has gone way up.
Oh yeah, they are afraid of Sheriff Mitchell...Try another excuse, that one's worn out and disproven.
Oh, here's one, maybe the realize that despite their current sheriff's faults, he's better than the alternative? That's what plenty of Baxter's supporters are thinking. Remember this number...58%
Oh yeah, they are afraid of Sheriff Mitchell...Try another excuse, that one's worn out and disproven.
Oh, here's one, maybe the realize that despite their current sheriff's faults, he's better than the alternative? That's what plenty of Baxter's supporters are thinking. Remember this number...58%
10:47, You are absolutely correct by saying the smart ones keep their mouth shut. I would guess the only reason the DSA members voted to support Mitchell is because the vote is held openly during a meeting with all members present. With all the GOB's looking on to make sure they know who is voting to support who. It's amazing and actually disheartening to be a part of.
11:00 it was a secret ballot, that tired old dog won't hunt. Like usual, all blow and no go. Besides, according to loveloser and Rivero, the DSA endorsement wasn't important, would be viewed as a negative because of all the corrupt deputies...Remember that little comment a ways back? The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Please join the Rivero for Sheriff Campaign Committee this Saturday, August 14, 5 PM to 8PM for Frank Rivero's campaign kick-off at Konocti Vista Casino in Lakeport. This is free, and enjoy complimentary appetizers, beverages, music, a silent auction, and raffles. This is an opportunity to meet Frank and hear his vision for fixing the Sheriff's Office. Come even if you're undecided, and speak one-on-one with Frank. Bring a friend or 3. - ron green
11:21, I am glad to hear it was a secret ballot and apologize for giving the wrong info. The practice of voting openly must have changed at some point after I left.
Well August 10, 2010 11:44 PM something that hasn't changed since you've been gone is the arm twisting prior to the vote to get what the management wants. Not to mention all of the crappy e-mails sent by Gregore prior to the vote. Trust me there are lots of us quiet ones praying for the light at the end of the tunnel which we started to see the day someone got the balls to run against Mitchell. True, Rivero is not perfect and some don't like him but us quiet ones know and understand he wansn't calling all of us racist, just the few who actually are. Oh what a eye opener for them to have someone be not afraid to point a finger back and say enough! I and others are looking forward to a new boss here at the LCSO it might be nice to see people get what they deserve by their actions and merits and not because they know no depth perception. A select few have their heads so far up Rodney's ass when he farts it exits their ass. And regardless of what some may say, Beland was shafted.
Nice try 5;47 but we seen this posting trick lots of times. When is Tom's court date on that pot raid?
Post of August 10th at 8:46 AM. The "Its a personnel matter" is used to hide ,no more than the ends justify the means. That in turn gives them, the bureaucrats cover and excuses. The point is with out discipline from those that abuse. You have persons that know better tried to hang another for one of their own. Yes I say that the Board is part of this problem. History tells that bad laws and the injustice of government leads to insurrection. The anarchy will come. I have no hope that we as a people understand or those that lead care because their corrupted by their own greed,ego and power. This government by its actions have condoned Mitchell and Hopkins It will be the citizen now to tell them, Mitchell and Hopkins "NO"
After reading the manifest today. I have some questions for sheriff Mitchell.
What dumb ass Captain is in charge of the jail?
Does an of the C.O., SGT'S talked to the Medical Staff?
I see lots of lawsuits coming out of the jail, under Mitchell's failed leadership!!!
Sheriff Mitchell we can't afford any more lawsuits against Lake Co.!!!!!
What dumb ass Captain is in charge of the jail?
Does an of the C.O., SGT'S talked to the Medical Staff?
I see lots of lawsuits coming out of the jail, under Mitchell's failed leadership!!!
Sheriff Mitchell we can't afford any more lawsuits against Lake Co.!!!!!
9:22 Ha ha haaaaaaaaa ha hee hee.. who are you kidding "no county computers can access certain sites" Haaa haa haaaaaaaa. Who was it in the sheriff's office who sat and watched porn and who in the district attorneys' office was blogging for Perdick?
Real joke to expect the district attorneys office to investigate a shooting/ and rule whether or not it was justified.
This is the same office that refused to prosecute Perdick for perjury in the Bismarck Dinius Case. So don't expect anything different it won't happen.
Real joke to expect the district attorneys office to investigate a shooting/ and rule whether or not it was justified.
This is the same office that refused to prosecute Perdick for perjury in the Bismarck Dinius Case. So don't expect anything different it won't happen.
I read posts from some of these deputies who are in an obvious panic over the prospect of having to do their jobs by following the rules and it shows how Mitchell has gone out to select his butt boys. More proof that they will do anything to avoid accountability just like Rod. With people like this as deputies its no wonder Rodney has driven his office to the point it is today. They are a sad joke. I feel for the good ones who do not dare speak up. The good thing is that the good ones along with us will speak up loud and clear in November at the ballot box.
Its to bad Mitchell can't be found responsible for all the lawsuits he and his office has generated over the last 15 years. I know being a public offical thats not possible but I wonder if it could be shown he abused his powers and could have prevented some of these abuses just by using ordinary care. For instance the jail and the problems there.
7:14 The FBI, and the DOJ won't come and investigate Lake Co. but if you want a Federal case, keep f*#king with Tom.
Good morning Lake County
what a day of posting yesterday and last night was, good to see some of the good officers come on and voice their opinion. You know the greatest thing at having no-rivero come on to the site, and we must assume this is Mitchells top arbitrator for his campaign he never once could say a single positive thing about Mitchell!!! If you noticed it was just the usual attempt to discredit other people. I have seen a lot of campaigns through the years and been involved in many, but this is the first time I have seen a campaign team not able to say anything positive about who they support! It was a real eye-opener, we know how the DSA vote back-fired on Mitchell and the GOB's of the DSA, we Know they only re-course that is available is the attempt to bring Rivero down to Mitchell's level, it is always been said when you cannot bring your candidate up and try to bring the opposition down to that level you will lose every time, I believe that theory is going to be proven again in November the fear is showing clearly on these people.
what a day of posting yesterday and last night was, good to see some of the good officers come on and voice their opinion. You know the greatest thing at having no-rivero come on to the site, and we must assume this is Mitchells top arbitrator for his campaign he never once could say a single positive thing about Mitchell!!! If you noticed it was just the usual attempt to discredit other people. I have seen a lot of campaigns through the years and been involved in many, but this is the first time I have seen a campaign team not able to say anything positive about who they support! It was a real eye-opener, we know how the DSA vote back-fired on Mitchell and the GOB's of the DSA, we Know they only re-course that is available is the attempt to bring Rivero down to Mitchell's level, it is always been said when you cannot bring your candidate up and try to bring the opposition down to that level you will lose every time, I believe that theory is going to be proven again in November the fear is showing clearly on these people.
Just a heads up with all the posting last night, there are new articles up on the Manifest, some really good stuff, also if you have not grabbed the latest copy of the Outlook there is a couple of excellent articles on there as well. We also had an excellent overview article on the Mitchell antics over the years placed in the Anderson Valley paper, so as you can see we are expanding out our articles an coverage to go after Mitchell and his boys in as many avenues as possible. By the way a great cartoon on the Manifest set by our friend, Jurgen from Hawaii.
Hey VoteNoRivero,
First, If my patting a macho K9 SWAT guy on the head is bad, why is it okay for lieutenant's to wrestle deputies and choke them out. How about other sergeant who take deputies to the floor and hold them there until they tap out. Or how about a captain allowing two deputies to wrestle in the sergeants office. I can give you tons of others. Oh and by the way, not one deputy testified they made a complaint on me. Sort of blows your comments out of the water.
Next time read the court papers instead of your hearsay gossip.As for my testimony, I testified correctly. not "one person" from the courts complained about my testimony. Not the judge, DDA, DA, defense the IO or even the bailiff. I clearly testified correctly unlike some others who outright gave false testimony and went unpunished. But don't worry, that will come out in the Dinius case to come.
Jim Beland
First, If my patting a macho K9 SWAT guy on the head is bad, why is it okay for lieutenant's to wrestle deputies and choke them out. How about other sergeant who take deputies to the floor and hold them there until they tap out. Or how about a captain allowing two deputies to wrestle in the sergeants office. I can give you tons of others. Oh and by the way, not one deputy testified they made a complaint on me. Sort of blows your comments out of the water.
Next time read the court papers instead of your hearsay gossip.As for my testimony, I testified correctly. not "one person" from the courts complained about my testimony. Not the judge, DDA, DA, defense the IO or even the bailiff. I clearly testified correctly unlike some others who outright gave false testimony and went unpunished. But don't worry, that will come out in the Dinius case to come.
Jim Beland
Hey Jim
How unprofessional can't Mitchell get? Sounds like the lieutenant's should have been fired period. Mitchell needs to get control of his management!!
good management never lays a hand on his/her employees period. Sounds like Mitchell is running the WWE. Someone could get hurt and collect workers comp.
How unprofessional can't Mitchell get? Sounds like the lieutenant's should have been fired period. Mitchell needs to get control of his management!!
good management never lays a hand on his/her employees period. Sounds like Mitchell is running the WWE. Someone could get hurt and collect workers comp.
Thanks Jim Beland. I look forward to the Civil Rights Case just to show how crooked some of officers were, eight named and who deserve to be fired and their badges taken from them. Ready and waiting.
Vote 4 Rivero. 4Rivero
Vote 4 Rivero. 4Rivero
Beland case, so they really hold a trial for people who are dismissed because they were already on report for poor performance? it is all staged as was Rivero piece in todays paper to get his name out there, funny thing Rivero has not been to work like all the other deputies working long days he may as well resign as he sure is not considered a Deputy by the citizens he was upposed to be working for, such an example of what is to be, the BOS should look into his being off for so long what is it 8 months now. He is so far out of the loop he will never find his way back.
Poor performance report? Me? Apparently you were not at my hearing. I have outstanding performance reports and my last was challenged. Do you really want to go there?
You know it's funny in a way. I've challenged every pro mitchell/anti Rivero cop to call me or stop by my house. My cellphone, home phone and address has not changed in 14 years and still in RIMS. Still, not "one" of them has the balls to contact me. I am sure they are afraid of the evidence I will show them supporting my views.
Jim Beland
You know it's funny in a way. I've challenged every pro mitchell/anti Rivero cop to call me or stop by my house. My cellphone, home phone and address has not changed in 14 years and still in RIMS. Still, not "one" of them has the balls to contact me. I am sure they are afraid of the evidence I will show them supporting my views.
Jim Beland
Mitchell was the one who granted Rivero unpaid leave. Now we have no conflict of interest unlike Mitchell.
Wake up and smell the roses, Mitchell will be voted out and Rivero will be in. He is going to be your boss so its time for you to go job hunting like you say you will. I'm not sure who would hire you when there are real Cops looking ro a job.
Wake up and smell the roses, Mitchell will be voted out and Rivero will be in. He is going to be your boss so its time for you to go job hunting like you say you will. I'm not sure who would hire you when there are real Cops looking ro a job.
Or Jim it could be that most officers do not care what you say or what your cry baby views are. Me I say it all makes for good reading. Love it
Nope they're just afraid of the truth. That's okay, all of it has been turned over to Rivero and Dinius's lawyer. I can't wait to hear Mitchell's response to it. If you think you're so knowledgeable, I challenge you to contact me.
Of course I'm not a manager who can do little things like estimate the speed of a car when you are driving a Tauras that is not equipped with a certified speedometer and had "NO" training on estimating in the speeds of vehicles in a stationary or moving mode? Oh and you haven't even given a speeding ticket in 15 years or more!
Jim Beland
Of course I'm not a manager who can do little things like estimate the speed of a car when you are driving a Tauras that is not equipped with a certified speedometer and had "NO" training on estimating in the speeds of vehicles in a stationary or moving mode? Oh and you haven't even given a speeding ticket in 15 years or more!
Jim Beland
Why is it that Mitchell can't read a DEA grant, a harassment report or even a simple Performance Review request?
Why did Mitchell allow Perdock to harass a sergeant or a eight year period (no not Beland).
Why can Mitchell give marriage advise to deputies but cheat on his wife?
Such a great leader Mitchell is.
Why did Mitchell allow Perdock to harass a sergeant or a eight year period (no not Beland).
Why can Mitchell give marriage advise to deputies but cheat on his wife?
Such a great leader Mitchell is.
wrestling in the office? taking people down?
Sweeet!
Good training. Got to keep each others skills up. Checking each other is just teamwork.
Whares this Dept?, sound like a cool place actually. Team work? Woa I'm there.
Places I worked were either so politically correct it made you sick, or old bitter burned out old timmers..
Sounds like a gun ho group. This is a good thing in my books.
RC
Sweeet!
Good training. Got to keep each others skills up. Checking each other is just teamwork.
Whares this Dept?, sound like a cool place actually. Team work? Woa I'm there.
Places I worked were either so politically correct it made you sick, or old bitter burned out old timmers..
Sounds like a gun ho group. This is a good thing in my books.
RC
August 3, 2010
PRESS RELEASE
FRANK RIVERO LAUNCHES HIS CAMPAIGN FOR SHERIFF AT A SPECIAL KICK-OFF EVENT
Today, the committee to elect Frank Rivero for Sheriff announced the official launching of its campaign to elect Frank Rivero as Lake County’s next Sheriff. “Our campaign team, in partnership with our gracious hosts at Konocti Vista Casino, has planned a special evening with the candidate. Frank will share his vision and plan to bring about much needed change in the Office of Sheriff at the August 14 kick-off, scheduled from 5 – 8 pm at the Konocti Vista Casino. The free event is open to anyone who wishes to learn more about our candidate, supporters and those who might want to get involved with the campaign,” said Olga Martin Steele, campaign manager.
Frank Rivero was the leading vote getter in the three-way Sheriff’s race in the June 8 primary election and is now in a run-off election with the incumbent Sheriff. “After taking some time to enjoy my family and reflect on what lies ahead, I am eager to hit the campaign trail again,” said Frank Rivero. “I am stronger than ever in my commitment to bring about needed reforms in an atmosphere of openness and accountability. In this phase of our campaign, I am making a point to reach out to individuals, businesses and groups to hear concerns that have yet to be addressed and to seek input and ideas for change and improvement. One way I will do that is by meeting directly with as many voters as I can. Another is through debates. “
“Early on, Frank sent a request to his opponent, the incumbent Sheriff, for a series of debates at venues throughout the county,” said Martin Steele. “I’ve not heard back from him as yet but several debates are already being scheduled by community groups and I’m happy to see he is responding to those opportunities,” Rivero said.
“It’s important that voters get a full opportunity to hear the issues and how we differ in our approaches and priorities. A well informed electorate, fair and honest responses to relevant issues, and the opportunity to see how the candidates respond to unfiltered and unscripted questions from the good people of Lake County is my goal,” said Rivero.
“November 2, election day, is the first opportunity in 16 years that voters will have a choice between the incumbent, who is running on his record, and Frank Rivero, who is running on a platform of change and policy reforms,” said Martin Steele. “Frank welcomes the opportunity to share his plan with all interested parties at the kick-off event. He will take questions from the audience and make time for one-on-one conversations with anyone who is so inclined. If you haven’t already met Frank, this is an opportunity to get to know him and understand the depths of his passion and commitment to Lake County – its people, businesses, and environment,” said Martin Steele.
“Complimentary appetizers and beverages will be served and there will be some low key fundraising activities for those who wish to support Frank’s campaign in that way.”
For more information, contact Frank at the campaign headquarters office, 707-987-4467, send him an email at www.info@sheriffrivero.com, or visit the campaign website at www.sheriffrivero.com.
PRESS RELEASE
FRANK RIVERO LAUNCHES HIS CAMPAIGN FOR SHERIFF AT A SPECIAL KICK-OFF EVENT
Today, the committee to elect Frank Rivero for Sheriff announced the official launching of its campaign to elect Frank Rivero as Lake County’s next Sheriff. “Our campaign team, in partnership with our gracious hosts at Konocti Vista Casino, has planned a special evening with the candidate. Frank will share his vision and plan to bring about much needed change in the Office of Sheriff at the August 14 kick-off, scheduled from 5 – 8 pm at the Konocti Vista Casino. The free event is open to anyone who wishes to learn more about our candidate, supporters and those who might want to get involved with the campaign,” said Olga Martin Steele, campaign manager.
Frank Rivero was the leading vote getter in the three-way Sheriff’s race in the June 8 primary election and is now in a run-off election with the incumbent Sheriff. “After taking some time to enjoy my family and reflect on what lies ahead, I am eager to hit the campaign trail again,” said Frank Rivero. “I am stronger than ever in my commitment to bring about needed reforms in an atmosphere of openness and accountability. In this phase of our campaign, I am making a point to reach out to individuals, businesses and groups to hear concerns that have yet to be addressed and to seek input and ideas for change and improvement. One way I will do that is by meeting directly with as many voters as I can. Another is through debates. “
“Early on, Frank sent a request to his opponent, the incumbent Sheriff, for a series of debates at venues throughout the county,” said Martin Steele. “I’ve not heard back from him as yet but several debates are already being scheduled by community groups and I’m happy to see he is responding to those opportunities,” Rivero said.
“It’s important that voters get a full opportunity to hear the issues and how we differ in our approaches and priorities. A well informed electorate, fair and honest responses to relevant issues, and the opportunity to see how the candidates respond to unfiltered and unscripted questions from the good people of Lake County is my goal,” said Rivero.
“November 2, election day, is the first opportunity in 16 years that voters will have a choice between the incumbent, who is running on his record, and Frank Rivero, who is running on a platform of change and policy reforms,” said Martin Steele. “Frank welcomes the opportunity to share his plan with all interested parties at the kick-off event. He will take questions from the audience and make time for one-on-one conversations with anyone who is so inclined. If you haven’t already met Frank, this is an opportunity to get to know him and understand the depths of his passion and commitment to Lake County – its people, businesses, and environment,” said Martin Steele.
“Complimentary appetizers and beverages will be served and there will be some low key fundraising activities for those who wish to support Frank’s campaign in that way.”
For more information, contact Frank at the campaign headquarters office, 707-987-4467, send him an email at www.info@sheriffrivero.com, or visit the campaign website at www.sheriffrivero.com.
We have just posted the Rivero press release for the upcoming event this Saturday at Konocti, this is going to be a great kick off for Frank, please be sure you come and bring all your friends with you, it should be a great kickoff for the November election.
Oh don''t get to worried about Rivero being off on his own time and his own money. Mitchell granted the leave, so you might want to take that up with your buddy. Again boys you are going to have to come up with something a lot better then that to overcome your candidates issues, but I can tell you it isn't going to work, you just can't make it work!
Sorry guys you are going to have to try a different approach. But good try.
Sorry guys you are going to have to try a different approach. But good try.
10:39 Hey stupid. The earlier blog told you that he was given a leave of absence to campaign. And it is with no pay! Not like those that are on leave and still receiving their pay. Money that we tax payers have to pay, due to the ineptness of Mitchell's regime. Vote for Rivero.
By the way. Mitchell is also campaigning...but on the county's dollar. He didn't take a leave with no pay. I say stop his pay while he is campaigning. Let's even the field!
Oh ya post 1055 we are going to bring the bongs, the hash pipes, then we will be working with the Cuban drug cartel, it will be just great when Frank gets in because we will be able to set up a distribution network out of the court house, and move product via the sheriff cars. We have been doing some planning and it looks like the Swat vehicle will hold at least 100 pounds of Heroin. So the night train will be running the horse out to the pastures. That is drug lingo in case you didn't know, boy are you guys sharp, you have it all figured out, dang it boys we've been caught.
Jim don't you get it, we do not care what you say, like the other poster said it jusy makes for a good laugh to see how far down you have sunk. This is really your kind of people. Hang in there you are really going places.
Officer Beland: Your a good person to stand up to those that would lie and cover up for their own. I know its not easy to tell the truth when you are up to you ass with alligators looking to bite you. The truth will rule the day. Semper Fi.
Oliver be sure to remember to come up for air on Frank ass so you can take a hit from the big bong. Do not get confused as to what you are doing.
My grow was flown today and I'm still kissing Rivero's ass. By the way, they flew at about 400 feet. That would be against the law. I'm not breaking laws, but they are. Another reason I'm voting for Rivero.
One thing for sure when Garzoli was flying everything was under control. Especially his own special interests.
11:33 Do not feel left out they will be back, just so many to do and so little time. This could be your lucky couple of weeks or maybe not. Pray my son
Hi RedC. Your the one I'm praying for. If you have the courage, come to Rivero's campaign kickoff. Find out for yourself. Were you suggesting earlier that someone died by your hand? You are the liar and a coward.
Please join the Rivero for Sheriff Campaign Committee this Saturday, August 14, 5 PM to 8PM for Frank Rivero's campaign kick-off at Konocti Vista Casino in Lakeport. This is free, and enjoy complimentary appetizers, beverages, music, a silent auction, and raffles. This is an opportunity to meet Frank and hear his vision for fixing the Sheriff's Office. Come even if you're undecided, and speak one-on-one with Frank. Bring a friend or 3 or 4. - ron green
So what is it, you worked a grave or it's your day off? You're on here running your mouth thinking you are being cute? How dumb you're going to feel when the truth comes out. Yeah you heard the rumors but it was just gossip...right? Timing is everything. You and your little DSA butt buddies have a little something coming your way.
Why do these guys so willing to keep getting their ass kicked by Jim it is like they are glutton's for punishment. This is so very simple, You cannot bring Rivero down to your level it is a round peg in a square hole.
Although we know the following post is going to spin the Blog in a bit of a different direction then a direct focus on Mitchell we feel these questions are important enough to ask and that they describe the possible saga of an individual who has potentially lost their way and may have decided to throw the public to the dogs for what may be their own personal gain. We are requesting a reply to these questions we expect totally honesty, we will let the citizens ponder not only the questions but even closer the truth and accuracy of the reply's. These questions are posed to Kip Ringen, These questions do not come from the Rivero camp, these questions do not come from the Mitchell camp, these questions come as a result of citizens information and the need for total transparency.
1.Mr. Ringen did you have a meeting with Sheriff Mitchell recently?
2.Was Rob Brown and Joe Ford in that meeting?
3.Did you ask Mitchell to bring you back for three years?
4.Was the three year request so that you could go from 81% pay retirement to 90% pay retirement an increase of 9% for your personal income?
5.Did you tell Mitchell that if he does this you will campaign against Rivero?
6.Did you tell Mitchell that you would raise issues for him concerning Rivero?
7.Did you tell Mitchell you would try to get a Probar endorsement for him if he brings you back for 3 years?
8.Did you give Mitchell until September 7th to reply to you which is the first day to file write in paper work?
9.Have you ever used the racial quote coined by Joe Ford that Jack Baxter is “The other white meat.”?
10. Do you find Rob Brown's participation in this level of campaign activities and collusion either illegal or at best highly immoral?
11. Would the public rightly deduce that if the answers to these questions is confirmed you will have said to the citizens of this county I am in this for myself and I am willing to throw the citizens out the window for my own monetary benefit?
12. Have you started to make inroads in attempting to do this by saying you currently support Mitchell to other people?
13. Did you ask Mitchell to hire you back as a Sgt.?
14.Are you aware of the rule governing hire-backs after one year of absence or more, and the normal hiring channels that must be then gone through? Are you aware that attempts to circumvent that process would not be looked highly upon by the public, and that at that point the combination of you and Mitchell will be a double negative and you would assure the citizens anger?
15. If other citizens come forward and assist in confirming the answers to these questions and quoting you and the words spoken in your meeting with Mitchell will you admit to these attempts publicly? More importantly do you really want to do this, do you really want to expose yourself to this and the other myriad of issues you will face?
16.Last question do you understand given the potential baggage you would have to drag out and in the open, that even with a write in candidacy it would not even remotely change the outcome of the election with Rivero in November as the new sheriff? Do you want to do this when you know the end result will not change, then what will you have?
1.Mr. Ringen did you have a meeting with Sheriff Mitchell recently?
2.Was Rob Brown and Joe Ford in that meeting?
3.Did you ask Mitchell to bring you back for three years?
4.Was the three year request so that you could go from 81% pay retirement to 90% pay retirement an increase of 9% for your personal income?
5.Did you tell Mitchell that if he does this you will campaign against Rivero?
6.Did you tell Mitchell that you would raise issues for him concerning Rivero?
7.Did you tell Mitchell you would try to get a Probar endorsement for him if he brings you back for 3 years?
8.Did you give Mitchell until September 7th to reply to you which is the first day to file write in paper work?
9.Have you ever used the racial quote coined by Joe Ford that Jack Baxter is “The other white meat.”?
10. Do you find Rob Brown's participation in this level of campaign activities and collusion either illegal or at best highly immoral?
11. Would the public rightly deduce that if the answers to these questions is confirmed you will have said to the citizens of this county I am in this for myself and I am willing to throw the citizens out the window for my own monetary benefit?
12. Have you started to make inroads in attempting to do this by saying you currently support Mitchell to other people?
13. Did you ask Mitchell to hire you back as a Sgt.?
14.Are you aware of the rule governing hire-backs after one year of absence or more, and the normal hiring channels that must be then gone through? Are you aware that attempts to circumvent that process would not be looked highly upon by the public, and that at that point the combination of you and Mitchell will be a double negative and you would assure the citizens anger?
15. If other citizens come forward and assist in confirming the answers to these questions and quoting you and the words spoken in your meeting with Mitchell will you admit to these attempts publicly? More importantly do you really want to do this, do you really want to expose yourself to this and the other myriad of issues you will face?
16.Last question do you understand given the potential baggage you would have to drag out and in the open, that even with a write in candidacy it would not even remotely change the outcome of the election with Rivero in November as the new sheriff? Do you want to do this when you know the end result will not change, then what will you have?
August 11, 2010 11:57 AM
Wait, what's this?
You're inviting me to a campaign cook off with Rivero and then in the same paragraph you call me a liar and a coward? It also sounds like you can't read either..
RC
Wait, what's this?
You're inviting me to a campaign cook off with Rivero and then in the same paragraph you call me a liar and a coward? It also sounds like you can't read either..
RC
Come on RC lets go to the Rivero campaign, take those panty hose off and be a Marine. Jezzzzz a squid is tougher then you.
Kip say it isn't so, even though I won't believe ya, say it isn't so. You got some splaining to do. I am to say the least surprised and very disappointed, may be the backgammon charge is true, maybe everything you have been denying is true, who is living with you right now? What are your true intentions?, it does not sound like it is nor has it been the citizens!
RC, I'll take this up. I'm asking you to come and speak with me at KVC on Saturday. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions face to face and for you to hear mine. No threats and I'll even go one step and protect you from anyone threatening you as much as I can. I willing to contact security to watch you if you want that too.
Jim Beland
Jim Beland
BREAKING: Dinius files federal lawsuit against Lake County, officials
http://lakeconews.com/content/view/15351/919/
Here we go again!!!
http://lakeconews.com/content/view/15351/919/
Here we go again!!!
Red C can wear a false nose abnd mustache to his true identity and it should work as long as he keeps his big mouth shut which is highly unlikely. It's an intewresting is Red C a "squid." I thing he was a pogue and a REMF if he was even in the Corps.
I heard similar stories about Sgt. Ringen.
He did get an honorable retirement after 27 years at the LCSO. He was very active in the DSA and in Porac working toward bettering the pay and benefits for law enforcement officers and his own department. I can't blame him for wanting to improve his retirement especially in these hard economic times. Wouldn't you do the same?
It's my understanding that he too was a victim of Sheriff Rodney Mitchell who hated him and did everything he could to force him to leave early and before he was ready. Mitchell threatened him and made his life miserable so he left.
Kip do you think Mitchell has changed or he would keep any under the table promises he may make to you. You are way to sharp to fall for that so I am surprised if it's true that you slithered into his office asking for anything. Even if he could slide you in the back door you know he wouldn't. He'll let you crow about what a no good person you think Rivero is and make an ass of yourself then he'll laugh at what a chump you are. Again I believe you are way to smart to fall for that. If true you know you are being used just as Mitchell uses everyone.
If true this smells of political blackmail for ones own selfish gain much like Mitchell does routinly himself.
Come back Kip, the community needs your experience with Mitchell's dirty dealings and we need a change and you well know it. Cowboy up and get back on the band wagon where you belong and will be appreciated. If you and Rivero have had a falling out then you two should talk it out, kiss and make up. We need to work together to get rid of Mitchell and make changes so noone else is treated the way you were.
He did get an honorable retirement after 27 years at the LCSO. He was very active in the DSA and in Porac working toward bettering the pay and benefits for law enforcement officers and his own department. I can't blame him for wanting to improve his retirement especially in these hard economic times. Wouldn't you do the same?
It's my understanding that he too was a victim of Sheriff Rodney Mitchell who hated him and did everything he could to force him to leave early and before he was ready. Mitchell threatened him and made his life miserable so he left.
Kip do you think Mitchell has changed or he would keep any under the table promises he may make to you. You are way to sharp to fall for that so I am surprised if it's true that you slithered into his office asking for anything. Even if he could slide you in the back door you know he wouldn't. He'll let you crow about what a no good person you think Rivero is and make an ass of yourself then he'll laugh at what a chump you are. Again I believe you are way to smart to fall for that. If true you know you are being used just as Mitchell uses everyone.
If true this smells of political blackmail for ones own selfish gain much like Mitchell does routinly himself.
Come back Kip, the community needs your experience with Mitchell's dirty dealings and we need a change and you well know it. Cowboy up and get back on the band wagon where you belong and will be appreciated. If you and Rivero have had a falling out then you two should talk it out, kiss and make up. We need to work together to get rid of Mitchell and make changes so noone else is treated the way you were.
Scooped by LCN, I don't think so. The Lake County Manifest doesn't have a direct line to Rodney. I'm sure he called crying about one more scandal that has come to light that he is in the middle of. More of our tax payers money going out the window because of Rod's actions. Hell, we might save money by giving Rod a golden parachute to leave now so we can save money.
Kip, you made a positive contribution to your profession in spide of Mitchell and his policies. Don't let the little things get your nose out of joint so you destroy the respect you have earned from your peers. You got shafted and we all know it but you beat the system. Leave it at that and don't let your pride allow Mitchell to chump you out. He'll just laugh behind your back and you know damn well I'm right.
We all get upset, angry over things and sometimes we say things we don't mean.
We all get upset, angry over things and sometimes we say things we don't mean.
Here comes that D word that Mitchell and Hopkins hate so much! Yes DINIUS! DINIUS! Now I hope Hopkins will experience what DINIUS felt when he lost his job. Next Rod will get to experience the same thing because DINIUS will get to Rod too, out of a job.
Dinius should move to Lake County so he too can cast his vote against Rod Mitchell. He can live with me.
Why is Ringen being such a punk and running home to his ex-boss after spending the last two years telling everyone how he would like to urinate on his grave? Sounds like he's getting as goofy as his squeeze. I'm looking forward to seeing the two of em parading around with Mitchell shirts on.
Sounds like another BS rumor being spun by the Mitchell camp to divide the opposition. I think Rod should have picked someone much weaker then Ringen to use as his patsy.
Back to picking on "Rod C" or is it "Red C". Are you going to come to Rivero's campaign kick off and speak to him directly? I really hope you do and I think there is a good chance you may feel differently. If not at least you can say you were well informed before casting your vote.
Great Will the defendant now stand . Rodney better hire an attorney because you know how those cdounty attorneys are . Unemployed and not a penny to his name 2011 is going to be Rodneys year . Pokey next !!
So we have some interesting developments today, Mr. Ringen has to own up, and they not so breaking news of the Dinius case being officially filed. Not sure why Jensen thinks that is breaking news, all this is already known, the Dinius just had to get the details of going after Hopkins as a DA in order. Now don't get us wrong we had indicated this would hit during the election, and now it has!!! Great news, as the exposure will hurt Mitchell and his other GOB's real bad. Here however is what will be attempted the Mitchell/Hopkins boys will stall and stall and stall, they will do everything they can to stop it from starting before the election. So now it will go to a cat and mouse game... Oh my my my corruption boys.
Question to Mitchell and Rob Brown, you guys were not going to agree to the illegal act of collusion with Ringen for a position on the force right? I mean really Brown, Mitchell you instantly told Ringen no...Right? You know what you are talking about here is illegal? Right, do we need to forward this to the FPPC as additional information for them?
Remember Rodney federal judges don't answer to you and hoppy . they really don't like corrupt hillbilly sheriffs . Got your soap on a rope .
Why would Ringen pay all that money out of his own pocket to register as a write in candidate when he knows he can not get the votes or change the results? Ringen is not the stupid petty man that some of you think he is. He hates Mitchell and with good cause.
Well well....if that doesn't have Kip Ringen all over it I don't know what does! You dirty little liar.It's about time someone burys you weather it be Rivero suporters or Mitchell.I don't care who's throwing you under the bus I'll praise em for it. You've always been a sneaky little shit and It's about time you get called on it....!!!! So lets hear what you've got to say
Joe Ford and Kip have been shooting their mouths off about their
meeting with Rod and Rob. It was a desperate attempt to bribe Rod with an offer to help his campaign by attacking Rivero in exchange for three years back as an LCSO sergeant to complete his retirement. Wow you can't make this stuff up. btw 4:09 A write in candidate cost nothing which is what Kip's integrity amounts to and the votes he'll get!
meeting with Rod and Rob. It was a desperate attempt to bribe Rod with an offer to help his campaign by attacking Rivero in exchange for three years back as an LCSO sergeant to complete his retirement. Wow you can't make this stuff up. btw 4:09 A write in candidate cost nothing which is what Kip's integrity amounts to and the votes he'll get!
So I guess that Ringen made his proposal to Rivero who told him where to put it. The amazing part is that he is stupid enough to trust Rod. Ringen's support of Rivero caused us grave concern. Kip you have lifted a huge weight off our shoulder knowing Rivero has no plans to bring your sorry, vengeful, dumba** back.
amazing how the loveloser "group" has changed their tune with respect to skip ringen. Why, one might ask. The simple matter is two liars will eventually part ways. Two people with no integrity will eventually screw each other over. This development doesn't bode well for rivzero either. Skip can really sink his ship with all his inside information. Not only was it illegal for rivzero to offer Baxter the undersheriff position to gain political support, it was likely the reason for the split because ringen had already been promised the job.
The real news is that he was stupid enough to trust this site who now turn on him like the real assholes they are. Pay attention James
John read Baxter's press release. Rivero did not offer him the position, he only asked him if he would be interested in it if Rivero were to be elected. You don't read well for a so called reporter. Did you welcome Kip to your camp yet you beer bellied, pot marked, f**k.
Did some say pot. I love pot, , pot is the reason I live and it is why I am Tom's step and fetch.
Oliver Wendell Douglas
Oliver Wendell Douglas
Wake up 5:02. Rivero never offered Baxter the job of Under Sheriff but he did ask him if he would consider it. Read Baxter's statement in the papers where he said it was to early to consider such an appointment especially since the job does not now exist. He came out up front to answer the rumor that he had been asked if he would consider the job and he told us he wanted to hear what both candidates had to say before making a decision as to who he would support.
Mitchell said he woulnd not have an Under Sheriff. Both Rivero and Baxter said they would go before the BOS to ask for the position if they were elected. To consider reorganization and the creating of new management positions with the approval of the BOS is certainly not illegal it's just good thinking.
To make such an appointment in the hope of gaining support from those 27.2% who voted for Baxter is just plain smart and should never be held against Rivero. He's thinking out of the box just as he said he would. Rivero is not in a position to promise anyone a job but he can go through the proper channels to create a position that he thinks will help a lame department.
Mitchell said he woulnd not have an Under Sheriff. Both Rivero and Baxter said they would go before the BOS to ask for the position if they were elected. To consider reorganization and the creating of new management positions with the approval of the BOS is certainly not illegal it's just good thinking.
To make such an appointment in the hope of gaining support from those 27.2% who voted for Baxter is just plain smart and should never be held against Rivero. He's thinking out of the box just as he said he would. Rivero is not in a position to promise anyone a job but he can go through the proper channels to create a position that he thinks will help a lame department.
Interesting to see what Skip's fellow co-workers actually think of him. Thjen again they say they want Mitchell when the two are birds of a feather.
lol great post 518, we lovelacers love all the drugs, Heroin, Meth pot, we are just a bunch of dummies you know that. Oh golly but one thing we keep beating your ass...;-)
As for Ringen, no biggie, that little plan has been exploded, and we think that is just fine, if a person is with us we all know it, if they are not then we know it and take action simple as that. Joe Ford was another perfect example, doesn't matter that he was booted it had to be done, that is just the nature of the beast. Now what the corruption supporters will find interesting is both those individuals moved by their emotional ego's therefore they cannot be a part of this team. That is not our choosing that is based on their decisions. We will at all cost protect the process of change and transparency and the removal of Mitchell, that is the goal corruption boys, and by the way we love it that you guys try to pick up our throw aways. Have fun with that.
As for Ringen, no biggie, that little plan has been exploded, and we think that is just fine, if a person is with us we all know it, if they are not then we know it and take action simple as that. Joe Ford was another perfect example, doesn't matter that he was booted it had to be done, that is just the nature of the beast. Now what the corruption supporters will find interesting is both those individuals moved by their emotional ego's therefore they cannot be a part of this team. That is not our choosing that is based on their decisions. We will at all cost protect the process of change and transparency and the removal of Mitchell, that is the goal corruption boys, and by the way we love it that you guys try to pick up our throw aways. Have fun with that.
Beland and Ringen were the two worst sergeants ever. Ringen was lazy and played Backgammon all shift and Beland was just pure incompetence and was hated by all.
This is a bad day for Mitchell his scam with Ringen is exposed and the potentially illegal aspect of it, and the Dinius trial is going to get underway...God this is getting fun and guess what boys much much more to come. We ain't been wrong yet, batten down the hatches fella's it is going to be along ride.
Kip would play interactive Backgammon with people all over the world for hours on the department computer. I wonder how much money he owes the citizens of this county. Until he got caught and quickly retired. "Honorably" as he would say.
Oliver your right again as I felt something funny only to find you beating my ass with you lips.Good Job
here you forgot this jj and get out of Rodneys bed . http://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/1295-1COMPLAINT-FiledVersion.pdf
August 11, 2010 2:25 PM Contact security and have them watch? Your saying people might be violent? why?
You guys want me to talk to people and want to meet me, but then all I get are insults and threats. Hmmm... I don't get it.
Some one here is calling me a squid and saying I'm a pogue. Wow, is that how you get peoples support? Sounds like allot of mindless drama to me. so if Frank gets elected then what? You gonna lynch people?? That's gonna cost the county allot. What? you gonna detain me for expressing my first amendment views on this site? In the past day you ass pirates have proceeded to piss me of oven worse then before. Your really hurting Frank with this hate site.
RC
You guys want me to talk to people and want to meet me, but then all I get are insults and threats. Hmmm... I don't get it.
Some one here is calling me a squid and saying I'm a pogue. Wow, is that how you get peoples support? Sounds like allot of mindless drama to me. so if Frank gets elected then what? You gonna lynch people?? That's gonna cost the county allot. What? you gonna detain me for expressing my first amendment views on this site? In the past day you ass pirates have proceeded to piss me of oven worse then before. Your really hurting Frank with this hate site.
RC
Sounds like the makings for an unlawful assembly.
Your pre warning the public there may be violence?
RC
Your pre warning the public there may be violence?
RC
lol RC you know we don't take you serious right? Goodness man, your bantering is great laughter but it is as well fun just beating you up, for a Marine you sure are easy to mess with. Now tell us what you really think..LOL As a Mitchell supporter I feel sorry for one guy....Mitchell.
Good news if your name is not in this lawsuit . Can someone explain why each defendant is sued as both an official and an individual .
Is dinius asking for damages from each defendant . Damn and Project Innocence is involved . What is really strange is why certain deputies are not named . Either way if I was named I would definitely hire one of those big city over priced attorneys .
Is dinius asking for damages from each defendant . Damn and Project Innocence is involved . What is really strange is why certain deputies are not named . Either way if I was named I would definitely hire one of those big city over priced attorneys .
Great post 601 that is the full 14 pages of the complaint, we had just received the same pages, oh my the information is stunning. When we see the words the "defendant Mitchell" as it is written up in the suit, it brings a big smile to our face. We will be posting excerpts from the draft, and the will be a full story on the Manifest by tomorrow, covering all the details.
You don't think Mitchell is in big trouble here is one small portion of the 14 page lawsuit:
Under DEFENDANT Mitchell's leadership, LCSO had a custome,usage, pattern, practice or unwritten code of conduct of protecting favored employees, such as defendant Perdock, aligned with Mitchell and punishing employees, such as Sgt. Beland, who resisted the favoritism when it crossed the line.
Under DEFENDANT Mitchell's leadership, LCSO had a custome,usage, pattern, practice or unwritten code of conduct of protecting favored employees, such as defendant Perdock, aligned with Mitchell and punishing employees, such as Sgt. Beland, who resisted the favoritism when it crossed the line.
Oh my my my, this is going to be great reading tonight, thanks Lovelace and look forward to the story in the paper. Yahoooooooooooooooooo this is a great day.
Ringen Mitchell Brown Ford, oh my god what a motley crew...ha ha ha ha, oh god I can't stop laughing, what have these dumb asses gotten themselves into. I am sorry I just can't keep the smile off my face!! Oh you idiots a double whammy day and not a word from the corruption supporters!!! LOL
To all defendents named in Dinius' lawsuit you need to go out and hire one of those thousnad dollar hour attorneys or make a deal .
Heads up everyone Channel 7 has just filed a report on the lawsuit live on TV. about a half hour ago, here we go again the cat is out of the bag. Anyone who can get the link up to that broadcast please do so asap!!!!
Do not see the link for the broadcast yet here is the write-up on the channel 7 news page.
LAKE COUNTY, CA (KGO) -- A federal civil rights lawsuit has been filed against the Lake County district attorney, sheriff and several officers by a man who stood trial and was acquitted of manslaughter in a fatal boat crash on Clear Lake.
Bismarck Dinius was steering a sailboat at night in April 2006 when a power boat driven by the No. 2 official in the sheriff's department slammed into it. Authorities only charged Dinius with the death of a passenger on the sailboat, and he is now suing the county for malicious prosecution.
LAKE COUNTY, CA (KGO) -- A federal civil rights lawsuit has been filed against the Lake County district attorney, sheriff and several officers by a man who stood trial and was acquitted of manslaughter in a fatal boat crash on Clear Lake.
Bismarck Dinius was steering a sailboat at night in April 2006 when a power boat driven by the No. 2 official in the sheriff's department slammed into it. Authorities only charged Dinius with the death of a passenger on the sailboat, and he is now suing the county for malicious prosecution.
DINIUS The case that woke Lake County up to Rod Mitchell and all his BS, Lies and fraud. LOL Here it comes again Rod.
All people named are being sued in their "individual and official capacities"..Quoting the complaint! Oh that is going to leave a mark!!
Are Kip Ringen and Joe Ford lovers? We knew Joe was a switch hitter still hiding in the closit and I didn't know Kip was too. Perhaps his squeeze is just a front.
August 11, 2010 6:28 PM
I like messing with you guys too. Theres really not much to do up here.
Squid.
Oh! wheres my tanker from 2nd Battalion?? When was he a tanker? Back when they had M60A3's? Hehe...
RC
I like messing with you guys too. Theres really not much to do up here.
Squid.
Oh! wheres my tanker from 2nd Battalion?? When was he a tanker? Back when they had M60A3's? Hehe...
RC
RC, I called you a Pogue and a Remf. I didn't call you a squid but I would have if I had thought of it. Some of us were teasing you because of all your bellowing about the MC. I thought a "leather neck" had thicker skin, a good sense of humor and the ability to fire back in the spirit of good all American banter. That said, I'm sorry if we hurt your feelings and I'll try not to let the devil take me over and cause me to say hurtful things, even in jest.
Also FYI I am not speaking for Rivero even if I do support him. AMF
Also FYI I am not speaking for Rivero even if I do support him. AMF
Nice going Kip! First you stabbed all your cop buddies in back and now you stabbed all the criminals in the back too. I guess that only leaves John Flynn and Gary Crane left. I hope their wearing their bullet proof vests when you go to lunch with them.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh very interesting Hopkins is being sued for Libel as part of the case in relation to his drunken sailor remark...Ahhhhhh very smart lawyer Hopkins by virtue of being the DA cannot be sued for his decision to prosecute but can be nailed for libel, and as the document says. "Hopkins press release calling Dinius a drunken sailor was a false and unprivileged publication which exposed Plaintiff to hatred, contempt, ridicule, or obloquy, or which had a tendency to injure him in seeking employment, the foregoing conduct of Hopkins was malicious and oppressive, warranting the award of punitive damages against him.
Kip was just never one of the GOB's no matter how hard he tried so he went to Porac hoping to become a big shot there, Again close but no cigar. Maybe if I put up Rivero signs Frank will give me a good job. Nope. How about we let bygones be bygones Rod and I come back and be your #1 man. I always did like you even when you threatened to destroy me. Another flop.
Try CPD, they may be Pers and the Chief is another dufus, maybe you could be his boy for three years.
Try CPD, they may be Pers and the Chief is another dufus, maybe you could be his boy for three years.
Kip Ringen and Jim (bedwetter) Beland were two of the worst sergeants I have ever seen. Ringen was always crying about something while attempting to stir the pot. He even caused the DSA to split because of the back stabbing HE started. Ringen is a pathetic liar and should move away. He has never done anything to help his coworkers or the department. He thrives on turmoil and should bew ashamed for what he has done. I hve no respect for Ringen and would not urinate on him if he was on fire.
Poor Beland is just an idiot. He has zero common sense and could not investigate his way out of a closet. If you just spend a couple of minutes with him and try to hold a conversation, you will see what I am talking about.
Poor Beland is just an idiot. He has zero common sense and could not investigate his way out of a closet. If you just spend a couple of minutes with him and try to hold a conversation, you will see what I am talking about.
Hello Lake County don't think this will cost the county big money here is section f on page 13th of the lawsuit:
That Lake County be required to pay any judgment pursuant to law, including but not limited, to California Government Code 825....Oh board of supervisors the Lovelace group warned you 12 months ago of what was to come, we asked you to take action and make a statement we asked you to do a vote of no confidence, and you sat on your collective asses and did nothing, and now you have one of your own Rob Brown in total collusion with Mitchell, when will you listen to the citizens.
That Lake County be required to pay any judgment pursuant to law, including but not limited, to California Government Code 825....Oh board of supervisors the Lovelace group warned you 12 months ago of what was to come, we asked you to take action and make a statement we asked you to do a vote of no confidence, and you sat on your collective asses and did nothing, and now you have one of your own Rob Brown in total collusion with Mitchell, when will you listen to the citizens.
What does Rob Brown care about this. Mitchell is the one being sued not Brown. The tax payers will end up paying Mitchell's share anyway when they make a deal. What are they going to get out of a hasbeen ex-sheriff with no job, no retirement and no friends.
Where is the Cat Queen, we haven't heard from her in a while and she's usually good for a lot of venom toward Rod Rooter.
If Brown is called as a witness against Mitchell then what? This time that pesky oath might get in the way.
Sorry marines we are working on to much important stuff to have the marine in thong postings right now, please call each other and have fun, we need to stay on point.
Get a grip my little conspiracy theorist's, Mitchell had nothing to do with the Drunken Dinius case. It was in the DA's hands not the Sheriff. You forget the facts of the case Dinius was DRUNK. Perdock was driving to fast for conditions PERIOD. It is the DA's office which deserves the blame, not the Sheriff's Department.
You are right RC. Once we get rid of RKM then we go after all the other crooked politicians in Lake County. When the Sheriff's race is over and Rivero wins we do need to all get together for a BBQ a few beers, a few laughs about what fun our bantering has been. We could invite Mitchell, by then he'll need a good meal.
7:35 pm
Ringen tried to get hired at CPD years ago and they wouldn't touch him either. I agree that Ringen has always been about starting rumors and trouble. He needs to move to his property in Idaho like he planned on years ago.
Ringen tried to get hired at CPD years ago and they wouldn't touch him either. I agree that Ringen has always been about starting rumors and trouble. He needs to move to his property in Idaho like he planned on years ago.
Hey 8:00 don't forget the little start salesman for Tom I think his name is Bret or Brent from Nice.
Sorry LL, you are right our mission is to rid ourselves of Mitchell and his crooks. To 7:56 Mitchell had everythinng to do with the Diniun case and their attempted cover up. He was right in the middle of their botched investigation and his incompetance and total lack of leadership is going to cost us. As the elected Sheriff he is responsible for all the screw up in his office. We the tax payers will get stuck with the tab as usual. The BOS has had lots of warning that a big storm was brewing. They chose to ignore it, refused to put a leash on Mitchell and his gang and here we are.
Then you have Frank Rivero or is it Rivera......Whatever they are both flippin nuts. Frank shot at an unarmed man.........People stay with me here do you see a problem? Rivero is not the answer here, he is part of the problem. You keep talking about lawsuits, Frank is the master and is just setting up for his retirement. The entire platform he stands on is made of lies he, Ringen, Poor Beland and 11550 Lande made up. People, People, People wake up and smell the coffee!
RC, I tried to be good but you just briong out the worst in all of us. You are such a raging dork which is not the first word that comes to mind.
You would be welcome at any BBQ that I was at becuase you are so much fun to pick on. Bring your gay friends on their scooters from Sonoma and we will welcome them too. Some of us are equal opontunity AH's and we'll all get some laughs at each other. Bring Mitchell while you are at it and you can be his only friend. When he's voted out of office you'll see how fast his henchmen jump ship and forget him once he can't do anything for them.
You would be welcome at any BBQ that I was at becuase you are so much fun to pick on. Bring your gay friends on their scooters from Sonoma and we will welcome them too. Some of us are equal opontunity AH's and we'll all get some laughs at each other. Bring Mitchell while you are at it and you can be his only friend. When he's voted out of office you'll see how fast his henchmen jump ship and forget him once he can't do anything for them.
Sorry 7:46 you must not have read the 14 page document, Mitchell is in serious trouble very serious indeed, we will have a complete article in the Manifest sometime tonight, you just stand by for that and all will be very clear to you. The great thing is as well the role that Beland plays in this he has got the goods on Mitchell and Hoppy as well as Perdock and Ostini, this is not a pretty picture. Wish in one hand and spit in the other and see what weighs more friend. You better hope they can stall this out till after the election cause Rodney on the witness stand is not going to be good.
We are with Bismarck Dinius to the end! We said it on the courtsteps a yr ago and we say it now. This is the case that brought awareness to the people of this county. From that point on its only been infested by more and more reporting of misconduct and corruption. We will see to the end of cleaning house like we stated a yr ago! This will be a hell of a ride and we are more than ready for it! As you see Hopkins is gone. Come November Mitchell will be gone and hopefully behind the same bars he has put others. Brown with affiliation is not far behind. And to all the rest of you, and you know who you are, how are them eyes behind the back of your heads?
Nighthawk
Nighthawk
You accuse Rivero of being part of the problem but people like you and Mitchell are the problem. Onlt one is going to win this election and people are sick and tired of Mitchell and his pals so guess who is left?
Rivero will be back to work just after the first of the year and he'll be our sheriff. Then dopes like you will be lining up to kiss his backside and Ollie won't have to eat anything since he will have been right all along.
I remember when Beland was security guard at the Lake Berryessa Estates. The kids called Beland "Helmet" because of the dorky helmet he wore while patrolling on his moped.lol He used to harass the kids day and night. The funny part is Beland is still "Helmet" today.
I don't use a glass pipe. I don't smoke, drink or play with myself which is proof positive that I am not a Mitchell boy.
I predict Beland will eventually get his job back and just in time to replace all the big mouth GOB's who say they will quit when Rivero is elected. I won't hold my breath until they do, they will get in line like good little lemings just like they did for Rod Rooter.
Now Now jj You know that too many peanuts aren't good for you. They make you irritable and neglect GF.
Please join the Rivero for Sheriff Campaign Committee this Saturday, August 14, 5 PM to 8PM for Frank Rivero's campaign kick-off at Konocti Vista Casino in Lakeport. This is free, and enjoy complimentary appetizers, beverages, music, a silent auction, and raffles. This is an opportunity to meet Frank and hear his vision for fixing the Sheriff's Office. Come even if you're undecided, and speak one-on-one with Frank. Bring a friend or 3 or 4.
Jim, I would like to meet with you and talk to you in person. If you are afraid I will attempt to get security to watch over you. How do I get ahold of Paul Blart? Help me people, I really want to meet with jim.
Why would Beland be afraid of anyone? All the man is asking for is a fair and impartial hearing for a change. Wouldn't you if you thought you had been treated unfairly by your boss?
Come on gang, you've been back stabbing and screwing over your peers for years and now you are getting a little of your own medicine. Doesn't taste good does it?
Apparently you have never talked to Beland before. He has the social skills of a rock. If you give him the slightest authority he will remind you of it in every sentence that comes out of his mouth.
You know guys Beland when he comes on here just destroys you guys, why do you ask for such pain. Jim handles himself just fine we never have to answer for him. Now listen like it or not Beland plays a interesting and important aspect of Mitchell getting his ass kicked and Hopkins and several others, you GOB's know it because you know he is part of the lynch pin which will take Mitchell down. You must read the entire claim it is killer and not to be taken lightly, you are attempting to discredit Beland, which tells everyone he must hold one of the keys to Mitchell's court hammering. Since you are attacking him so hard it tells us he is right on the mark. Sorry boys you are to easy to figure out.
Ollie, you are so smart. Why don't you roll up another fatty and make up something else, you animal abusing dope smoker.
Reading the posts are rather amusing. Some are nothing more than idiotic ramblings, and others actually have something worthwhile to say. I suggest that before some of you negative big mouth know it all BULL SHITTERS put anything in writing you should learn to spell and how to write sensible sentences. And, if what you are bitching about is true or not, just sign your name if you dare at the end of your childish tyraids so that we know who you stupid clowns are, and that we can bitch back at you. It would be enlightening to accasionally read something that is actually factual and makes sense rather than childish ramblings. I guess that I would remain anonymous too if I wrote the stupid crap that some of the articles are. In my opinion, if you do not sign your name, you are just plain CHICKEN SHIT. I just believe in saying it like it is without hiding behind the word ANONYMOUS. AL B Lakeport.
I just can't get over the fact that these would be Cops slam Beland for exercising his right to a fiar hearing to contest his termination. When Mitchell dumps you are you going to take it without a wimper?
850 You thought Bismarck was going to take the fall for Perdock also. Besides You won't be on the jury,"if there is one" so don't worry about what sane, rationale,reasonable, citizens would have to say. It is out of your control. Not that it ever was. Don't forget Garzoli is getting ready to put the screws to Mitchell also. Care to comment on that? I heard he might be called to testify? Ouch!
Guys, listen we have so much going on and a set of important subjects to discuss, we just don't have space to keep up the whining posts, try to engage us intellectually and enter the discussion, you have been stung hard today, if you are going to live in this county you are going to have to learn to see things in a different more open light. If you cannot you will cause your own denial and suffering. You can't really look at your own childish posts, and see the smallness of yourself? Would you like to defend Mitchell and Hopkins and the others named as if there is no issue at all, listen Masson is not a stupid attorney, when he takes a case it means he knows with few exceptions he is going to win. This county, this sheriff, Hopkins, and others named are in a tight spot, you cannot belittle a federal lawsuit and I can guarantee you Anita Grant and others are not happy campers, including the BOS.
Al B Lakeport. Dear Mr. Lakeport it's good to see a man with cajonies who signs his name which I'm sure is listed in the telephone book under "Lakeport." It's true that some of us negative big mouth "Bull Shitters" may ramble. And, perhaps our spelling and grammer is not up to your standards but I think you get the idea which is all we can ask. Incidently accasionally is a word I'm not familiar with perhaps because I too am ignorant. Perhaps the word you were seeking was "occasionally." Thank you for bringing my own short comings to my attention. Mr. Anonomous Smith, Lakeport.
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