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Anybody seen Pat McMahan driving a Napa Cruiser into Hidden Valley lately or is he on administrative leave like I.A. investigation?
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Wow, Markham, you are brave with your endorsement. Has Mitchell taken your badge away yet? I like your acknowledgment that the department is completely out of control for years, reason for early retirement? Has Baxter offered you the under Sheriff job you little weasel? Vote Rivero
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To my kids, two of you have acknowledged with a copy of the voting ballot via Verizon Wireless photo voting for Anderson and Rivero. Thank you both. Please Jerry & Tony do your best don't forget dead line for registration is May 24th. Love you Dad
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Anthony Farrington, is it true Mitchell is a friend of yours? Did you forget Mitchell was trying to replace you a few elections ago? Wow! what a hypocrite, preaching Responsive Open County Government like Denise Rushing. What about EEOC investigation?
Anthony, Darling I am dissapointed in you I have voted for you all along! Did Mitchell and Hoppy helped you with your ex-girl friend dilemna for man slaughter charges some years back!
Anthony, Darling I am dissapointed in you I have voted for you all along! Did Mitchell and Hoppy helped you with your ex-girl friend dilemna for man slaughter charges some years back!
Wgn & Ca. way to bring it. Great post!! Your support and efforts are greatly appreciated by all involved!!!! More big things are coming down the pipeline, stand by citizens this is going to get quite interesting in the next few weeks.
To the Duke of Lake County, your Royal Heiness, Grand Marchall, Sheriff Rodney K. Mitchell. You have built an empire for yourself and no accountibility with the help from B.O.S. especially your friend and partner in distribution of massive marijuana profits with red face Roberto Brown and the Good Ol Boys of L.C. not everseen in this country and very hard to copy. Rodney has never appologized for anyone and never will. He may be responsible for the video, it is KKK Policy, 3 more weeks and counting. Thanks Lovelace Group.
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Hey post 348, I forgot that Mitchell helped Cecil Brown Sr. that year. I do remember all the B.S. between Farrington and Brown sr. and some real negative comments from Sheriff Rodney Mitchell about Farrington. Is this how Cecil Brown Jr. became Captain in the LCSO?
Flash to the citizens of Lake county, we are going to go to moderation mode for a few moments. We have an important post to present to the county. This is an extremely important post and once the post is up we will return you to your regular programming please gather all you can to look at the blog in the next 30 minutes or so. Make phone calls to those you know, and get them to get on the blog and watch for this posting we will leave the blog in moderator mode for appox. 30 minutes...
Also please take care note of the long post that was placed concerning LCN and a citizen it is starting with post 1250 this afternoon, read all 4 posts as it paints an interesting story indeed.
Also please take care note of the long post that was placed concerning LCN and a citizen it is starting with post 1250 this afternoon, read all 4 posts as it paints an interesting story indeed.
Citizens of Lake County, we have just received information from a source within the SO that Frank Rivero has been cleared of all charges and claims against him in the Rully IA.
All interviews have been completed, including John Rully and Deputy Bill Djernes as well any and all others associated with this fabricated trumped up attempt by Mitchell. Again the IA is closed Rivero is officially cleared of all charges and claims in the Rully IA.
All citizens call sheriff Mitchell at this number; 262-4200 and ask him directly. Mitchell is attempting to hold this information until the election is over with.
Message to the LCN and the Record Bee you need to report on this asap, you have access to the confirmed information we would expect to see articles in your papers ASAP. This is rock solid and their is no question about it.
To the citizens of Lake County it is now time for you to stand up and demand accountability, make those phone calls, and send e-mails to the Record Bee and The LCN. If the response is they don't know that this is true, tell them the answer is only a phone call away. This IA was reported on in full disclosure in their papers when the claim was made, and now it is time to report on it in full disclosure that it is closed and Frank Rivero has been cleared in total.
This is the Lovelace group
All interviews have been completed, including John Rully and Deputy Bill Djernes as well any and all others associated with this fabricated trumped up attempt by Mitchell. Again the IA is closed Rivero is officially cleared of all charges and claims in the Rully IA.
All citizens call sheriff Mitchell at this number; 262-4200 and ask him directly. Mitchell is attempting to hold this information until the election is over with.
Message to the LCN and the Record Bee you need to report on this asap, you have access to the confirmed information we would expect to see articles in your papers ASAP. This is rock solid and their is no question about it.
To the citizens of Lake County it is now time for you to stand up and demand accountability, make those phone calls, and send e-mails to the Record Bee and The LCN. If the response is they don't know that this is true, tell them the answer is only a phone call away. This IA was reported on in full disclosure in their papers when the claim was made, and now it is time to report on it in full disclosure that it is closed and Frank Rivero has been cleared in total.
This is the Lovelace group
That's exactly how it went with Cicil Brown Jr. about Farrington.
Thanks, post 4:44PM Sorry I missed to sign post 3:48PM
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Without the Lovelace group nothing like this would have happened. To all members of the Lovelace group Lake County Citizens appreciate you.
Thank you all.
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Thanks, post 4:44PM Sorry I missed to sign post 3:48PM
WGA&CA (my signature does not make any difference, the main point is we get Mitchell & Hoppy released from their kingdom)
Without the Lovelace group nothing like this would have happened. To all members of the Lovelace group Lake County Citizens appreciate you.
Thank you all.
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You are returned to regular programming, please all citizens act on this critical information and contact both Mitchell and our media outlets.
we all knew the claim by that wacko lady was not absolutly true but due process and now see it works. If anyone believed it they must be related to that wacko broad
Ya!!!!!!!! and Mitchell was going to keep it hidden huh..Sounds like lawsuit material to me, I hope Frank throws Mitchell under the bus so hard after this election it makes his head spin. This is an act that is a direct attempt to discredit Rivero during the elections and is illegal, a known trait of Mitchells. Great work Lovelace, keep it up!! Now the big question how could the local papers not post this information. If they do not we have a direct connection between the LCN, the Record Bee and Mitchell. They better post this information.
Hey LoveLace looks like that dirty trick of Mitchells just back fired and now everyone in the county is aware of it. He needs to man up that he was WRONG and stop hiding this. To hide this any longer will just make it look worse for him. Why hide it Mitchell is gone in June anyway.
Looks like it 634, looks like the chickens have come home to roost, karma is a bitch isn't it. Just be sure you send the e-mails and make the phone calls to Mitchell's number.
hey rodney what is up your sleeve , I would definately find some smarter people to listen to . kkklint aint cutting it .
This is very interesting, it has been a wild few days of posting, and this last one tops it. When will these corruption supporters see that this is not going away. Now we have a 120 some IA that once the people catch wind of it and start to push, it gets cleared, well Rodney did not have a choice, but now he has to come out and say it. Or he has to report it or confirm it to the local media, I would think Record Bee would have it on Tuesday and no reason why LCN should not be on it tomorrow latest Tuesday. Great Job, now let's move on to the next scam huh!
I hope this is true. It goes to show you that if this IA had been investigated back in January, it would have never had been an election issue.
Here is my problem with this. As I see it, if I have information that a deputy has committed a violent felony while on duty, my citizen's complaint may not be investigated immediately. That means the deputy is free to commit more of the same or more serous crimes. IA's are supposed to protect the people and the deputy. This is very sad and needs some serous management changes.
***Rivero4Sheriff***
Here is my problem with this. As I see it, if I have information that a deputy has committed a violent felony while on duty, my citizen's complaint may not be investigated immediately. That means the deputy is free to commit more of the same or more serous crimes. IA's are supposed to protect the people and the deputy. This is very sad and needs some serous management changes.
***Rivero4Sheriff***
Sorry clipped that one, repost...That is an interesting post Rivero 4 sheriff, the idea is public safety, if this was now deemed so critical, how could it not be in 100 days ago? really smacks of pre-planned attacks. Good post
Nope that is not all that I got, I got even more than this:
1. Mitchell interfered in the Dinius investigation. Hugged and consulted Perdock even before he was officially interviewed.
2. Mitchell caught Perdock accessing RIMS after being told not to do so.
3. Mitchell finds out Perdock called investigators liars and that Perdock lied to them.
4. Mitchell fires Bealnd for testifying to the truth.
5. Mitchell does nothing when he learns Morshed lied on the stand.
6. Mitchell finally puts Perdock on "approved" leave or is it sick or admin?
7. Mitchell is informed of Garzoli's posting of his wife on the wall.
8. Mitchell's staff is told that Garzoli made a sexist comment to an employee and did nothing.
9. Mitchell fails to review the DEA grant before signing it.
10. Garzoli is seen going into Mitchell's staff meetings wearing a flight suit with "PILOT" on it.
11. Garzoli is involved in the helicopter crash.
12. Mitchell tells BOS he knew nothing about Garzoligate. Late when the BOS asks Mitchell again, Mitchell said, "not to that extent."
13. Mitchell finds out about Garzoli's radio statements.
14. Instead of terminating Garzoli, Mitchell allowed Garzoli to self demote and keep all of his seniority.
15. Then we have Morshed's stuff. No evidence ever found that linked him to the crime.
16. Mitchell received a complaint against Rivero based on an arrest 1 1/2 years ago accusing him of a felony while on duty. Instead of acting on it, Mitchell and his GOB's sit on it for 4 months.
17. It is now 129 days and still no charges against Rivero.
18. After 45 days of sick leave and 10 months of Admin Leave, Mitchell finally fired Perdock. Oh and it is just a few weeks before the election.
***Rivero4Sheriff***
1. Mitchell interfered in the Dinius investigation. Hugged and consulted Perdock even before he was officially interviewed.
2. Mitchell caught Perdock accessing RIMS after being told not to do so.
3. Mitchell finds out Perdock called investigators liars and that Perdock lied to them.
4. Mitchell fires Bealnd for testifying to the truth.
5. Mitchell does nothing when he learns Morshed lied on the stand.
6. Mitchell finally puts Perdock on "approved" leave or is it sick or admin?
7. Mitchell is informed of Garzoli's posting of his wife on the wall.
8. Mitchell's staff is told that Garzoli made a sexist comment to an employee and did nothing.
9. Mitchell fails to review the DEA grant before signing it.
10. Garzoli is seen going into Mitchell's staff meetings wearing a flight suit with "PILOT" on it.
11. Garzoli is involved in the helicopter crash.
12. Mitchell tells BOS he knew nothing about Garzoligate. Late when the BOS asks Mitchell again, Mitchell said, "not to that extent."
13. Mitchell finds out about Garzoli's radio statements.
14. Instead of terminating Garzoli, Mitchell allowed Garzoli to self demote and keep all of his seniority.
15. Then we have Morshed's stuff. No evidence ever found that linked him to the crime.
16. Mitchell received a complaint against Rivero based on an arrest 1 1/2 years ago accusing him of a felony while on duty. Instead of acting on it, Mitchell and his GOB's sit on it for 4 months.
17. It is now 129 days and still no charges against Rivero.
18. After 45 days of sick leave and 10 months of Admin Leave, Mitchell finally fired Perdock. Oh and it is just a few weeks before the election.
***Rivero4Sheriff***
Mitchell better have more proof than he did against Dinius . Contrary to what Mitchell says The Dinius investigation stinks to high heaven and the lawsuit will prove everything .
Mitchell needs to start getting used to be called the defendent . His world is crashing and I am loving it .
Asking a question, if an organization media or otherwise, use's a source, and the use of that source is documented by the source, would the organization be willing to attack that very source they utilized significantly, or discredit that source. Would that organization be willing to throw punches back and forth? doing it at the risk of looking bias in an election situation,and effecting their very credibility through the information that is reveled? Many times in elections this has happened, the necessity for total transparency in the type of situation we have in this county is huge.
Nothing is going to crash until every single possible vote is gathered. Everyone out there this cannot be a situation where people sit on their hands, you must vote and you must make sure everyone of you get's as many as you can, I got 4 more votes today for Rivero in a single conversation with a family. Every chance you get you must do it. Make a goal of 5 new votes a day. I swear it is that easy, in fact you will find you get even more then that. You must do it. This is the critical part of the mission, the last few weeks. Do your part!!
Holy smokes Rivero is clear on the IA, what the hell is Mitchell waiting on, he announced it with flying colors, lets's end it the same Mitchell!! thanks for the post Lovelace.
See post 1258pm for the media citizen documentation it is in 4 different post last being at 1258 scan up from there and you will see the entire 4 posts.
After over four years Mitchell claims the investigation of Dinius was by the book and he carries that doj report as proof . Well to the rest of the world Russell Perdock murdered Lynn Thorton and Rodney Mitchell ordered that murder to be covered up . Two Officers have been Terminated for telling the truth . Has Mitchell read woodward and flynn's interview with perdock . does he not know that document is posted on the internet and everybody can read it . Does he not Know that sacramento sheriffs deputies have twice testified they based their entire investigation on perdicks word . Give it up Mitchell the truth is known and has been documented . Your foney baloney report you posted do you think nobody kept the original documents that were altered .
Citizens are reporting that someone from local media was on the SA forum today, we would imagine looking for posts hmmmmmmm, there was no post placed by them and they were tracked till they left the site.
I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today.
Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.
I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.
All right!
Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today.
Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.
I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.
All right!
Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
Go ahead and delete this. You 're going to anyway. It doesn't fit your mold. Drove through HVL last night after leaving a friends house. Just out of curiousity, I counted election signs on the three roads I drove. There were 18 Mitchell signs and 6 Rivero. Not made up. Try it yourself.
You guys crack me up with your sign issue. It really doesn't matter how many signs you see out there. Has anyone seen Mitchell or Hopkins out campaigning? NO they really think they have this in the bag! Rivero, has traveled this lake, been to every association, senior center, private gatherings, and to all the debates, has held meet and greets and continues strong! The polls will put Hopkins and Mitchell to shame!
this in the opinio9n section of the LCN..Thank you Karyn Dunn
Dunn: Remember Thornton when you vote
Written by Karyn Dunn
Monday, 17 May 2010
Hello, my name is Karyn Dunn and I am a law enforcement officer in the state of California. I was also a good friend of Lynn Thornton, a recent retiree from a 25+ year career in law enforcement, who was killed by the boat driven by Lake County Sheriff’s Captain Russell Perdock in 2006.
Mr. Perdock will likely never be brought to justice. I hold Sheriff Rodney Mitchell responsible for this terrible and shameful injustice. On June 8, you can too by voting for Francisco Rivero for sheriff.
Mr. Mitchell protected his employee, Russ Perdock, who was second in command at the time of Lynn’s death. I believe Mr. Perdock will never be held accountable for Lynn’s death, which is a grave injustice.
As many of you may know, Bismarck Dinius, who was on the sailboat with Lynn Thornton, was wrongly charged. A jury of Lake County citizens acquitted him – this after a three-year delay in bringing the case to trial and satisfying the statue of limits protecting the man really at fault. The Lake County people on the jury did the right thing in acquitting Mr. Dinius. Rodney Mitchell did not do the right thing by Lynn Thornton, her son, family and friends, or the people of Lake County.
Unfortunately, unless perjury or some other illegal act can be proven, it’s too late to bring Russell Perdock to justice. It was Rodney Mitchell’s job to bring charges forward at the right time. He should have presented a case to the district attorney against his captain, Russell Perdock, just as he did against Mr. Dinius. After all, it was Perdock, who crashed into the sailboat at a high rate of speed in the dark of night. It was Sheriff Mitchell who also did not do the right thing and no amount of explaining can rationalize away his failure!
On June 8, 2010, vote Mitchell out of office!
Frank Rivero is the only active sheriff’s deputy with the strength of character and conviction to speak out against this and other injustices under the leadership of Rodney Mitchell.
Isn’t it time for good character and moral standards to win? Please vote in remembrance of Lynn Thornton.
Karyn Dunn lives in Citrus Heights, Calif.
Dunn: Remember Thornton when you vote
Written by Karyn Dunn
Monday, 17 May 2010
Hello, my name is Karyn Dunn and I am a law enforcement officer in the state of California. I was also a good friend of Lynn Thornton, a recent retiree from a 25+ year career in law enforcement, who was killed by the boat driven by Lake County Sheriff’s Captain Russell Perdock in 2006.
Mr. Perdock will likely never be brought to justice. I hold Sheriff Rodney Mitchell responsible for this terrible and shameful injustice. On June 8, you can too by voting for Francisco Rivero for sheriff.
Mr. Mitchell protected his employee, Russ Perdock, who was second in command at the time of Lynn’s death. I believe Mr. Perdock will never be held accountable for Lynn’s death, which is a grave injustice.
As many of you may know, Bismarck Dinius, who was on the sailboat with Lynn Thornton, was wrongly charged. A jury of Lake County citizens acquitted him – this after a three-year delay in bringing the case to trial and satisfying the statue of limits protecting the man really at fault. The Lake County people on the jury did the right thing in acquitting Mr. Dinius. Rodney Mitchell did not do the right thing by Lynn Thornton, her son, family and friends, or the people of Lake County.
Unfortunately, unless perjury or some other illegal act can be proven, it’s too late to bring Russell Perdock to justice. It was Rodney Mitchell’s job to bring charges forward at the right time. He should have presented a case to the district attorney against his captain, Russell Perdock, just as he did against Mr. Dinius. After all, it was Perdock, who crashed into the sailboat at a high rate of speed in the dark of night. It was Sheriff Mitchell who also did not do the right thing and no amount of explaining can rationalize away his failure!
On June 8, 2010, vote Mitchell out of office!
Frank Rivero is the only active sheriff’s deputy with the strength of character and conviction to speak out against this and other injustices under the leadership of Rodney Mitchell.
Isn’t it time for good character and moral standards to win? Please vote in remembrance of Lynn Thornton.
Karyn Dunn lives in Citrus Heights, Calif.
I just looked at the Sheriffs website "awards dinner". So if you need a good laugh today just go and look at old Rodney and crew. It's funny as hell.
We have no concern over the opinion piece in the LCN today, it is in simplest terms a round about way of showing their support for sheriff Mitchell. Simple as that, the facts and situations put forth are half truth's and of little importance to the upcoming race. These names and attempts have been thrown around and are of little to no concern to the elections nor to the work of creating transparency and justice in our county. We do thank LCN for the advertising but wish they would have mentioned the name of the terrible Blog that has them so upset. This to will pass, and now you have one newspaper left that can report the news unbiased which is the Record Bee, let's hope they can keep their head.
Thanks Lovelace for putting your self out there. It is greatly appreciated; the fight against corruption is an ugly one; but it has to be done. Kudos to you as Mitchell and his gang would never have been exposed to the general public if it were not for you. ELnews doesnt talk about the people they have intimidated or talked unfairly about,or harrassed by calling them on the phone over and over again; now do they. I know Rivero will answer them back in a big blast they might just regret; as they have portrayed him without any facts-- again. LCNEWS is very vindictive. Don't ever question their reporting they will come after you; or try to.
LCN protects McMahon the deputy that walked out? Wasn't he the one who got smattering drunk points a gun at another deputy in a bar and then passes out in a ditch at a party after drinking too much? Maybe that is why he doesn't work at LCSO anymore.
LCN doesn't mention this?
LCN doesn't mention this?
Thanks to all of you for your tremendous support, our phones are ringing off the hook in support of the Lovelace group, we are amazed that this reported small group of people can have such an effect on the corruption and collusion that is in place in our county. We will formulate a response to the wonderful attention that has been afforded to us. We are able to clearly state that this is the perfect example of the breaking down of 15 years of collusion and untoward connections between BOS the Media and the LE in this county. The exposure we have brought forth and to bear on these individuals is going to prove to be one of the greatest helps and assistance to this county ever seen. We will formulate a response to the opinion piece and we will keep firing away and doing the job the citizens have asked us to do. It is funny as each time someone attempts to attack this forum and the citizens posting they get all excited as if some great harm has come to us. Ladies and gentlemen the battle continues and the elections will go on and we will be here continuing to do our job and correcting the wrongs that exist in this county and in the make-up of the power base which does not want their house of cards to tumble. Put a smile on your face folks the beat goes on and we will not be deterred from the goal.
I was reared to adhere to "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. sometimes you must speak out,Vote Mitchell and Hopkins out. I'll only be a fool to you dishonest supporters but I'll be in better company with those that think you should not liar, cheat or steal. Thank you Love lace for showing how bad they are.That's the only way they will be exposed. I see no one else doing it.
To answer post 7:57, go back and read older posts on this site. The posters brag about owning parts of the county and all the signs they put up and how everyone is asking for them. I drove from a friend's house in Glenhaven the other day and it wasn't until I got into Nice that I saw a Rivero sign. It was where the old firehouse was. Then there were a couple more before the cutoff. Yet, Lovelace states Rivero 'owns' the Northshore. I do agree that just because there are no signs there is a lack of support. I choose to not put up signs and choose not to put bumper stickers on my vehicles. That does not mean I don't vote.
Maybe you haven't seen Rivero or Hopkins out campaigning because you haven't been where they were. If you are Mitchell/Hopkins there is no point in wasting your time trying to convert Rivero supporters. It is a waste of time and energy. They are probably out talking to the "swing" voters that haven't decided who to vote for.
Maybe you haven't seen Rivero or Hopkins out campaigning because you haven't been where they were. If you are Mitchell/Hopkins there is no point in wasting your time trying to convert Rivero supporters. It is a waste of time and energy. They are probably out talking to the "swing" voters that haven't decided who to vote for.
Letter in response to the LCN opinion piece posted on May 17th
Fm: Bruce Forsythe a member of the Lovelace group
Re: Response to Lake Co. News opinion piece of May 17th 2010
On May 17th 2010 Liz Larsen of Lake Co. News posted an opinion piece in their Internet newspaper. This is our response to that editorial and those opinions expressed by Ms. Larsen. We will let the other individuals in this opinion piece speak for themselves and concentrate our response to those ideas expressed directly towards some of the individuals of the Lovelace group of citizens. We will deal with this overview in a point by point discussion of the alleged facts and opinions of Lake Co. News. But first let’s discuss the deep and detailed relationship between the Lovelace group and Liz Larsen, as much has been left unsaid by Ms. Larsen.
The Lovelace group has had a long and involved relationship with Lake Co. News since the launching of the Sheriff Mitchell Watch citizens Blog site. What Liz has chosen to omit from her opinion piece is this deep and involved connection. The Lovelace group from its inception has had well over 100 direct communications with Liz Larsen since our beginning. We have met with Liz on many occasions in person. We have had a great many phone conversations with Liz Larsen. In those conversations we were working directly with her in information gathering for stories in her paper, and over and over Liz contacted us to gather information for her, and, over and over she provided a great deal of information to us that we had asked for. Much of this information sharing has been posted on the blog site, and much of the information in her articles has come from us. We can produce these phone records, and bring witness’s to bear on these matters. As an example in both the Morshed and Wright incidents we were in constant and direct contact with Liz Larsen, at one point Larsen called our group and asked if we could get her the search warrant numbers and documentation she could not get or indicated she did not have access to. This is just one example of many many coordinated efforts that occurred between LCN and the Lovelace group. It appears that Ms. Larsen has somehow forgotten this deep and involved relationship between our two organizations.
Now let’s briefly address the supposed connection to Mr. Rivero that Liz has tried to create. The citizens who launched this important avenue for information and a “voice for the voiceless” did not even know who Frank Rivero was, our stated purpose and goal as can be seen on our Blog site is the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins from power. We did in the course of the campaigns starting and after a complete review of the candidates endorse Frank Rivero for sheriff. This is each of our rights as citizens, and a freedom that is afforded us by our constitutional rights as citizens. In fact, our efforts have been so focused on removing Mitchell and Hopkins as our goal that many of us have only been to a couple of Rivero events. This attempted connection to Mr. Rivero simply put, does not hold water. Many on our site support Rivero and indeed we have become the conduit for those who are supporting Mr. Rivero. Mr. Rivero has never contacted us, nor given any input as to content or function of our Blog. This is by design and has always been an important aspect of keeping the proper separation between what we do and what the various candidates in this election do. We have been contacted by Mr. Baxter directly as an example when he first entered the race, we had many conversations with him, but the separation was foremost in our actions and this was made clear to him as well. He was getting a lay of the land and needed input as to what that picture was. We were happy to do so and made no attempt to further that connection in the same way we have done so with Mr. Rivero.
Fm: Bruce Forsythe a member of the Lovelace group
Re: Response to Lake Co. News opinion piece of May 17th 2010
On May 17th 2010 Liz Larsen of Lake Co. News posted an opinion piece in their Internet newspaper. This is our response to that editorial and those opinions expressed by Ms. Larsen. We will let the other individuals in this opinion piece speak for themselves and concentrate our response to those ideas expressed directly towards some of the individuals of the Lovelace group of citizens. We will deal with this overview in a point by point discussion of the alleged facts and opinions of Lake Co. News. But first let’s discuss the deep and detailed relationship between the Lovelace group and Liz Larsen, as much has been left unsaid by Ms. Larsen.
The Lovelace group has had a long and involved relationship with Lake Co. News since the launching of the Sheriff Mitchell Watch citizens Blog site. What Liz has chosen to omit from her opinion piece is this deep and involved connection. The Lovelace group from its inception has had well over 100 direct communications with Liz Larsen since our beginning. We have met with Liz on many occasions in person. We have had a great many phone conversations with Liz Larsen. In those conversations we were working directly with her in information gathering for stories in her paper, and over and over Liz contacted us to gather information for her, and, over and over she provided a great deal of information to us that we had asked for. Much of this information sharing has been posted on the blog site, and much of the information in her articles has come from us. We can produce these phone records, and bring witness’s to bear on these matters. As an example in both the Morshed and Wright incidents we were in constant and direct contact with Liz Larsen, at one point Larsen called our group and asked if we could get her the search warrant numbers and documentation she could not get or indicated she did not have access to. This is just one example of many many coordinated efforts that occurred between LCN and the Lovelace group. It appears that Ms. Larsen has somehow forgotten this deep and involved relationship between our two organizations.
Now let’s briefly address the supposed connection to Mr. Rivero that Liz has tried to create. The citizens who launched this important avenue for information and a “voice for the voiceless” did not even know who Frank Rivero was, our stated purpose and goal as can be seen on our Blog site is the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins from power. We did in the course of the campaigns starting and after a complete review of the candidates endorse Frank Rivero for sheriff. This is each of our rights as citizens, and a freedom that is afforded us by our constitutional rights as citizens. In fact, our efforts have been so focused on removing Mitchell and Hopkins as our goal that many of us have only been to a couple of Rivero events. This attempted connection to Mr. Rivero simply put, does not hold water. Many on our site support Rivero and indeed we have become the conduit for those who are supporting Mr. Rivero. Mr. Rivero has never contacted us, nor given any input as to content or function of our Blog. This is by design and has always been an important aspect of keeping the proper separation between what we do and what the various candidates in this election do. We have been contacted by Mr. Baxter directly as an example when he first entered the race, we had many conversations with him, but the separation was foremost in our actions and this was made clear to him as well. He was getting a lay of the land and needed input as to what that picture was. We were happy to do so and made no attempt to further that connection in the same way we have done so with Mr. Rivero.
Post 2
Now let’s go to some specific points in the opinion piece written by Liz Larsen.
It appears that Liz was unable to make any connections to our citizens group and Mr. Rivero except to say that “Tom Carter and Bruce Forsythe have been seen in close proximity to Mr. Rivero at his campaign functions.” We would have to say that is less then convincing investigative evidence. By the way you will also notice Bruce Forsythe is not on Frank Rivero’s endorsement page, nor any other candidates, this was done to ensure correct political acumen and practices of separation between media and the supporters of a candidate. This appears to have eluded LCN as their support appears to be directly connected to sheriff Mitchell, or at minimum they have come out against Rivero directly, which of course is totally against proper journalistic practices. Liz then proceeds to indicate that Bruce Forsythe was seen discussing documents with Victor Halstrom. I can tell you that brief conversation had nothing to do with Mr. Rivero and I am sure if Mr. Halstrom were asked and he even remembered the brief conversation he would confirm this point blank. So again this is LCN journalism at its worse.
For whatever reason Liz choose to again bring up the DUI of Bruce Forsythe, I have no bone of contention with that statement, I have already come forward clearly and directly on this situation and the great lesson and education I got from that mistake. It is important to note that I am a family man of 34 years of marriage, with two wonderful children, and a spotless record, as I am sure has already been checked out.
Let us clear the air on the phone calls to Kelseyville lumber, there was no issue in my direct on the phone communications with the owner of Kelseyville lumber, in fact I used an unrestricted phone number and had no issues with it being known. When the owner indicated to me he had my number my quote was that is great, now let’s move forward with why I am calling you. Rob Brown did not figure out a thing as reported in Liz’s article my name was already known, and Rob’s grandstanding is little more then his usual egocentric diatribes.
The reported e-mails to the supervisors and other individuals: We have posted on our site nearly every e-mail that has been sent by the Lovelace group, we have no reason to defend those important and detailed communications. We know that the elitist powers in place may not like them but their importance and content is, has been, and will continue to be a method and effective way of communicating the citizens positions in the many issues that face our county. This is America and we might suggest a little thicker skin in these matters would be in order for these public officials
Now let’s go to some specific points in the opinion piece written by Liz Larsen.
It appears that Liz was unable to make any connections to our citizens group and Mr. Rivero except to say that “Tom Carter and Bruce Forsythe have been seen in close proximity to Mr. Rivero at his campaign functions.” We would have to say that is less then convincing investigative evidence. By the way you will also notice Bruce Forsythe is not on Frank Rivero’s endorsement page, nor any other candidates, this was done to ensure correct political acumen and practices of separation between media and the supporters of a candidate. This appears to have eluded LCN as their support appears to be directly connected to sheriff Mitchell, or at minimum they have come out against Rivero directly, which of course is totally against proper journalistic practices. Liz then proceeds to indicate that Bruce Forsythe was seen discussing documents with Victor Halstrom. I can tell you that brief conversation had nothing to do with Mr. Rivero and I am sure if Mr. Halstrom were asked and he even remembered the brief conversation he would confirm this point blank. So again this is LCN journalism at its worse.
For whatever reason Liz choose to again bring up the DUI of Bruce Forsythe, I have no bone of contention with that statement, I have already come forward clearly and directly on this situation and the great lesson and education I got from that mistake. It is important to note that I am a family man of 34 years of marriage, with two wonderful children, and a spotless record, as I am sure has already been checked out.
Let us clear the air on the phone calls to Kelseyville lumber, there was no issue in my direct on the phone communications with the owner of Kelseyville lumber, in fact I used an unrestricted phone number and had no issues with it being known. When the owner indicated to me he had my number my quote was that is great, now let’s move forward with why I am calling you. Rob Brown did not figure out a thing as reported in Liz’s article my name was already known, and Rob’s grandstanding is little more then his usual egocentric diatribes.
The reported e-mails to the supervisors and other individuals: We have posted on our site nearly every e-mail that has been sent by the Lovelace group, we have no reason to defend those important and detailed communications. We know that the elitist powers in place may not like them but their importance and content is, has been, and will continue to be a method and effective way of communicating the citizens positions in the many issues that face our county. This is America and we might suggest a little thicker skin in these matters would be in order for these public officials
Post 3
Now lets go to Denise Rushing, no we were not evicted from her property, I would find it hard to believe that Denise made that statement to Liz. There was no eviction, we gave notice of our moving, and did so within the timeframes described, leaving the orchard in good order clean and ready for other tenants to occupy the space. If Denise can produce any documentation associated with an eviction we would invite her to do so. Now why did we leave that location, we did so to protect Denise, we did not want her being associated with our activities and felt it was better to free her of that burden as we moved forward with our work at exposing the corruption in our county, we did not feel it would be fair to her to stay there and therefore we gave notice of our moving and executed it flawlessly.
The attacking of the LCN website by the Lovelace group? Pure folly ask John to show an ounce of proof of this allegation we would be happy to see it. We can guarantee you will see no evidence in that regard.
Let’s talk about the advertising on LCN, here is our position on this matter, we do not believe LCN or the Record Bee should accept any monies for advertising in a small county campaign such as this, it lends itself to bias or non-reporting, as the revenues become more important then proper reporting, we expressed this to LCN very clearly. And we maintain that position.
We have no idea what these alleged physical threats were. In fact John Jensen placed a post on our Blog page indicating this. A citizens called him on it, and he wrote back indicating nothing was posted on our site and gave no further proof of this silly accusation. We invite John or Liz to show us the proof of the Lovelace group doing so, we would be happy to see it.
We believe this covers the main aspect‘s of the opinion piece we wanted to address. The remaining ¾’s of Liz’s write up is LCN’s concerns about Mr. Rivero and others who will speak for them selves we are sure. To close we will continue our efforts across the board, this group which now totals nearly 30 actual members and over 60 posts a day on average is continuing to grow and expand. We will continue our focus on documentation and investigation of the corruption in this county, we invite all citizens to join us on the blog and are grateful for all the support being given.
Now lets go to Denise Rushing, no we were not evicted from her property, I would find it hard to believe that Denise made that statement to Liz. There was no eviction, we gave notice of our moving, and did so within the timeframes described, leaving the orchard in good order clean and ready for other tenants to occupy the space. If Denise can produce any documentation associated with an eviction we would invite her to do so. Now why did we leave that location, we did so to protect Denise, we did not want her being associated with our activities and felt it was better to free her of that burden as we moved forward with our work at exposing the corruption in our county, we did not feel it would be fair to her to stay there and therefore we gave notice of our moving and executed it flawlessly.
The attacking of the LCN website by the Lovelace group? Pure folly ask John to show an ounce of proof of this allegation we would be happy to see it. We can guarantee you will see no evidence in that regard.
Let’s talk about the advertising on LCN, here is our position on this matter, we do not believe LCN or the Record Bee should accept any monies for advertising in a small county campaign such as this, it lends itself to bias or non-reporting, as the revenues become more important then proper reporting, we expressed this to LCN very clearly. And we maintain that position.
We have no idea what these alleged physical threats were. In fact John Jensen placed a post on our Blog page indicating this. A citizens called him on it, and he wrote back indicating nothing was posted on our site and gave no further proof of this silly accusation. We invite John or Liz to show us the proof of the Lovelace group doing so, we would be happy to see it.
We believe this covers the main aspect‘s of the opinion piece we wanted to address. The remaining ¾’s of Liz’s write up is LCN’s concerns about Mr. Rivero and others who will speak for them selves we are sure. To close we will continue our efforts across the board, this group which now totals nearly 30 actual members and over 60 posts a day on average is continuing to grow and expand. We will continue our focus on documentation and investigation of the corruption in this county, we invite all citizens to join us on the blog and are grateful for all the support being given.
LCN sure has done an about face. I really enjoyed their coverage of the Dinius trial. Although this editorial is about the lovelace group it seems to me it is nothing more than an attack on Rivero and an endorsment for Mitchell. So my question is when did LCN join the Mitchell camp and why?
Great response Lovelace it raises a whole host of questions, I am going to work on some of them and see what the cat drags in...Good honest solid response..Great job
Good questions post 238, and we think you are correct in asking that question, we are going to be posting some more detailed responses to the opinion piece as well, and we invite others to post their questions to LCN as well, we have sent our response to all supervisors and we will be sending it to LCN as well as the Record Bee. We know LCN will not post it, and that is to be expected. Thanks for your support!
Thank you post 238, we gots a feeling there is going to be a lot of stuff dragged in by the cats.
You know for the Lovelace group being seen as such a bunch of small timers we sure got these folks in an uproar, we have never seen such whining by a supposed journalist in our lives. The good news is we chuckle at these antics, and continue down our choosen road, of bringing justice and transparency to our county. carry on we have a long way to go.
By the way when is LCN going to post that the Rivero IA with Rully is closed and done? Well we got the catfish derby today maybe on Tuesday it will be the strawberry girls again...LOL
Thank you post 238, we gots a feeling there is going to be a lot of stuff dragged in by the cats.
You know for the Lovelace group being seen as such a bunch of small timers we sure got these folks in an uproar, we have never seen such whining by a supposed journalist in our lives. The good news is we chuckle at these antics, and continue down our choosen road, of bringing justice and transparency to our county. carry on we have a long way to go.
By the way when is LCN going to post that the Rivero IA with Rully is closed and done? Well we got the catfish derby today maybe on Tuesday it will be the strawberry girls again...LOL
We now have an admission by hoppy that there is an investigation by the state bar , hoppy has an obligation to disclose what that investigation is for and the ramifications of that investigation . We also have a total black out by the media of this investigation . If hoppy is disbarred he cannot serve as district attorney so why no coverage .
FINALLY, we get some mention from LCN!!! That was not really what we expected after we shared our story with Liz. I do believe that is called a "breach of confidentiality". I hope we can raise the caliber of journalism in this county.
There are numerous factoids that the recent editorial got incorrect---not that Liz or John bothered checking their facts (WE sure didn't get any phone call!). I would just like to point out that this blog predates the start of the Rivero campaign by a couple months. Liz Larson knows that we are NOT part of the Rivero campaign. How did we know she knows? Because we told her about our blog before Rivero even announced that he was running. We told her a number of things about ourselves (including our identities, our motives, and information we had uncovered). We have even shared information with Liz from time to time. This was before she breached confidentiality with us and revealed our identities to the Lake County Sheriff's Office--not even Rivero knew who we were at the time.
We have done quite a bit to help Lake Co News. The thanks we get was a breach of confidentiality and trust, and now an opinion piece slandering us. What exactly was the "Research" Rob Brown underwent when he wanted to discover who we were? Easy. He asked Elizabeth Larson.
When people tell us things, they often distinguish between things they want made public and things we should keep private. We would never breach confidentiality in the way Larson and Jensen have done. I have to say, I'm mad about this most of all! Larson and Jenson are not fit to work on a high school newspaper. They would never breach confidentiality with Rod Mitchell or Rob Brown, why would they do it with us, ESPECIALLY after we shared so much with them.
Now that that's off my chest, thanks for the PR! I for one will not be telling Mrs. Larson or Mr. Jenson anything in confidence again.
There are numerous factoids that the recent editorial got incorrect---not that Liz or John bothered checking their facts (WE sure didn't get any phone call!). I would just like to point out that this blog predates the start of the Rivero campaign by a couple months. Liz Larson knows that we are NOT part of the Rivero campaign. How did we know she knows? Because we told her about our blog before Rivero even announced that he was running. We told her a number of things about ourselves (including our identities, our motives, and information we had uncovered). We have even shared information with Liz from time to time. This was before she breached confidentiality with us and revealed our identities to the Lake County Sheriff's Office--not even Rivero knew who we were at the time.
We have done quite a bit to help Lake Co News. The thanks we get was a breach of confidentiality and trust, and now an opinion piece slandering us. What exactly was the "Research" Rob Brown underwent when he wanted to discover who we were? Easy. He asked Elizabeth Larson.
When people tell us things, they often distinguish between things they want made public and things we should keep private. We would never breach confidentiality in the way Larson and Jensen have done. I have to say, I'm mad about this most of all! Larson and Jenson are not fit to work on a high school newspaper. They would never breach confidentiality with Rod Mitchell or Rob Brown, why would they do it with us, ESPECIALLY after we shared so much with them.
Now that that's off my chest, thanks for the PR! I for one will not be telling Mrs. Larson or Mr. Jenson anything in confidence again.
Great post Mr. Rushing, and much appreciated by the citizens. We are with you and we thank you for your hard work, and the work of the Lovelace group in total. Carry on and continue to fight the good fight.
Rather than reporting the news, Elizabeth Larson seems to want to be the news; a violation of one of the most basic tenants of good journalism. Perhaps she’s upset that the Alexa rating for this blog is 134,539 while the rating for LakeCoNews is 140,847. Since a lower number signifies a more popular web site (i.e. Google has a rating of 1, FaceBook is 2) this indicates that more people are reading this blog then her web site. Perhaps that’s why she lashed out at those whom she used to look to for the inside scoop.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm questions questions why do I get the feeling this raises more serious questions then answers them. keep it going Lovelace don't bow down to the pressure. Many people are with you.
I have a headache!! The weather is perfect for this day!! One question in post 2, end of third paragraph....what is a egocentric diatribes lol lol lol
If anyone is interested, Stonewall Democrats meets tonight @ Clearlake Library 6:30pm with potluck. Doug Rhodes, Candidate for Lake County District Attorney is the guest speaker.
If anyone is interested, Stonewall Democrats meets tonight @ Clearlake Library 6:30pm with potluck. Doug Rhodes, Candidate for Lake County District Attorney is the guest speaker.
Ya true enough post 435, that guy is a real piece of work, not to sharp but a real piece of work indeed. why do I get the feeling the Lovelace group is "loving" all this attention, and that their purposes are being served by the very folks who so despise them? LOL
Here is the dictionary def. for egocentric which fits both Brown and Mitchell.
e·go·cen·tric
/ˌigoʊˈsɛntrɪk, ˌɛgoʊ-/ Show Spelled[ee-goh-sen-trik, eg-oh-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
having or regarding the self or the individual as the center of all things: an egocentric philosophy that ignores social causes.
2.
having little or no regard for interests, beliefs, or attitudes other than one's own; self-centered: an egocentric person; egocentric demands upon the time and patience of others.
Here is diatribe which completes your request for clarity in the posting: yup that fits Brown and Mitchell as well.
di·a·tribe
/ˈdaɪəˌtraɪb/ Show Spelled[dahy-uh-trahyb] Show IPA
–noun
a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism:
e·go·cen·tric
/ˌigoʊˈsɛntrɪk, ˌɛgoʊ-/ Show Spelled[ee-goh-sen-trik, eg-oh-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
having or regarding the self or the individual as the center of all things: an egocentric philosophy that ignores social causes.
2.
having little or no regard for interests, beliefs, or attitudes other than one's own; self-centered: an egocentric person; egocentric demands upon the time and patience of others.
Here is diatribe which completes your request for clarity in the posting: yup that fits Brown and Mitchell as well.
di·a·tribe
/ˈdaɪəˌtraɪb/ Show Spelled[dahy-uh-trahyb] Show IPA
–noun
a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism:
If LCN and/or the R/B would do some investigative reporting on local Gov't. This blog would have gone bye, bye, along time ago. So keep up the good work folks.
thank you post 507 and your post is greatly appreciated, we indeed will keep up the good work for the citizens of this county.
Ya now that they are in direct conflict with Rivero, and trying to beat him up, how could they ever return to reporting on this election, it would seem better for them to simply post their alliance to Mitchell and be done with it at this point.
Oh My. I just read the article if that is what you want to call it. My first impression was now if this doesn't take the cake. LCN did exactly what everyone else is doing. I thought they were a newspaper and they were suppose to report the news. Look, if you don't have the back bone to be a non biased reporter, and take everything as a threat maybe its time to find another job. Gezz, forbide anyone who disagrees with LCN. They have just placed themselves into the category of Mitchell, and Rivero. Put the gloves on folks!
Second, to mention Ms. Rushing despite what I may think of her, and her sons possible involvement go beyond belief. Why would LCN drag them into this, when she has election right around the corner. You are doing a injustice to many despite your feelings about this blog.
Second, to mention Ms. Rushing despite what I may think of her, and her sons possible involvement go beyond belief. Why would LCN drag them into this, when she has election right around the corner. You are doing a injustice to many despite your feelings about this blog.
You are right post 531 I agree with you 100% you should read the Lovelace groups response it makes LCN look even worse, by the way great response Lovelace, direct and to the point.
Post 531 did you mean to say Mitchell and Hoppy, Mitchell and Rivero would not make sense in your post, unless I just ain't reading it right.
Funny, LL always gave the impression she was single. Never would have guessed she was married. Is this why she keeps the name Larson and not Jensen? Seems not to many citizens like this guy. Does she figure if she had his last name no one would confide in her? This web sure is getting thicker and thicker!
Man everyone read the Lovelace response starting at post 202 Nice, good job Lovelace, boy that opens up a can of worms!! tsk tsk LCn, working so closley with the Lovelace group and then trying to throw them under the bus, not pretty.
Hey LoveLace not to change the subject but today a guy hung himself in the jail on bed sheets. Does Mitchell over see the jail?
I just find it hilarious that none of them, meaning Mitchell, Hopkins, Liz Larson and John Jensen, down the blog yet everytime you turn around one of them or the other is on it lmfao. Look, go out and find your own stories guys. Stop using this blog to get your info second hand and start doing the jobs your paid to do. For Christmas Sakes, get some backbone and stop with all your BS. If Lovelace has intimidated you by running this blog and maintaining it and even getting close to your numbers that should tell you something. Stop whining Liz, John and all the rest. Through all the BS I'm sure you can find a hell of alot of ligitamit complaints and issues. This is not about you. Its about removing Hopkins and Mitchell. And if Rivero is the one who replaces Mitchell so be it, thats apparently what the voters want. If Anderson replaces Hopkins there to, That is what the voters want. If I decide to run next term LOOK OUT, now call that a threat if you wish, cuz I have had enough of all of it about now. And no, I'm not a cop, nor a judge, not even a lawyer. Just lil ole me and don't take no shit from no one!
Message from the Lovelace group, a death happened in the Jail this morning, a hanging by an inmate. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and those who knew him. LCN and others should take careful note of this. A man's life has ended, none of the events of today or what will or has come can compare to the importance of taking note of this terrible event that has happened. We take a brief moment to send our thoughts out to those who knew him, we pass no judgement on why or for what circumstances he was in jail, this is the life of a human being, one of us, one of all of us...May he rest in peace, and his sorrows in this life that had befallen him be only a small legacy of the potential of this soul, as is all our potential.
This is Lovelace
This is Lovelace
Post 550 great post, we will leave the language as your point is so poignant and powerful, thank you
what is up hoppy . what are you going to do about garzoligate or did mitchell order you to leave it alone . charge him with misappropriations of government funds .
I have been reading the posts from previous days, It looks to me after reading the posts from May 16, 2010 12:58 PM. That possibly LCN has been in Mitchell's corner and tried to cover for Garzoli since Sept last year?
Rivero e-mail
written by elarson, May 17, 2010
The e-mail above that purports to be from Mr. Rivero to myself on May 16 was never received by Lake County News. So, yet again, more misinformation. How very, very unfortunate. I guess this proves our point.
written by elarson, May 17, 2010
The e-mail above that purports to be from Mr. Rivero to myself on May 16 was never received by Lake County News. So, yet again, more misinformation. How very, very unfortunate. I guess this proves our point.
This is the Lovelace Group we have a significant announcement please contact all individuals who watch this site, make phone calls and get people on line and stand by we will post this significant information in the next 15 minutes.
This is the Lovelace group
This is the Lovelace group
Post 635 if you are Liz Larsen you have gone off the deep end, those post's of your e-mails and the citizen who documented them has zero association with Mr. Rivero. This is a stunning display of total disregard for the facts. If you check your saved e-mails you will find who the citizen is. If you have not saved those e-mails as the citizen did in documentation of your actions, we will ask this citizen if he minds us using his name. We find it hard to believe this was Liz Larsen on post 635 but stranger things have happened. Liz if this was you, you must issue an apology to Mr. Rivero. This is hard to believe you would place that comment.
FLASH FLASH to the citizens of Lake County, we have just received information which came from one of our Lovelace members, it was reported that Dave Garzoli had talked with several people a few days ago and indicated he would be terminated this Thursday, One of our group has just been informed that DAVE GARZOLI WAS TERMINATED TODAY. This is Mitchell timing at its worst what is this man trying to pull, if he thinks this is an advantage he fails to understand how terrible this timing is, well there you have it citizens Garzoli is terminated. We continue our work, our investigations and we are gathering the information from a variety of sources and will continue to do so. To repeat, Dave Garzoli had been talking over the past few days that he was to be terminated this Thursday, it is now reported that Dave Garzoli was terminated as of today. We do not know at this point what may be the bigger story, the strange and odd post of Liz Larsen or this, either way you shake it, we will continue our work for the citizens.
Wow, this stuff with Larson and Jenson at Lake County News is a bit much! IMHO, very outrageous that they published that editorial. It's yellow journalism at its worst. I like Brian Rushing's response above. Brian, you ought to send that to Lake County News and demand they print it as a letter to the editor, equal time you know. Everyone mentioned in the editorial should write and demand their responses be published. I am so disappointed that Lake County News has stooped that low and tried to become the story rather than reporting about the election. They are alienating more than half their base of readership with garbage like that. Liz, we knew about John, but doesn't anyone in your family have any common sense left?
Man what a day for the Lovelace group, oh my gosh Mitchell didn't just do this did he? Tell me he is not this stupid, no don't tell me he isn't I would not believe you anyway LOL
what the heck is going on with LCN have they come totally unglued by the pressure this is wierd.
Wow what a day, go Lovelace go!!
what the heck is going on with LCN have they come totally unglued by the pressure this is wierd.
Wow what a day, go Lovelace go!!
LCN has refused to allow any responses to their opinion piece we made contact and it was refused. Sorry.
Well, Garzoli, gone, Perdock gone, Mitchell to be gone, Hopkins to be gone, it can't get much better then that, boy I love it when a plan comes together. kudo's to the Lovelace group...Go get em!!!
In the comments following her “Editorial”, Elizabeth Larson said the following: “The e-mail above that purports to be from Mr. Rivero to myself on May 16 was never received by Lake County News. So, yet again, more misinformation. How very, very unfortunate. I guess this proves our point.”
Now, I called the Rivero headquarters early today and they forwarded the email to me just moments later. Are we to belive that they wrote that up but didn’t send it as the date stamp indicates? No, Elizabeth Larson was caught in a lie and is now lying about having not received the email in order to cover herself.
I don’t mind that she sometimes writes in the cryptic fashion of a grade-
schooler. I accept that she doesn’t always check her facts. But I’m extremely offended (as she says “very, very” offended) that she would outright lie and yet call herself a journalist. Exactly what is “our point” that she thinks this proves?
Now, I called the Rivero headquarters early today and they forwarded the email to me just moments later. Are we to belive that they wrote that up but didn’t send it as the date stamp indicates? No, Elizabeth Larson was caught in a lie and is now lying about having not received the email in order to cover herself.
I don’t mind that she sometimes writes in the cryptic fashion of a grade-
schooler. I accept that she doesn’t always check her facts. But I’m extremely offended (as she says “very, very” offended) that she would outright lie and yet call herself a journalist. Exactly what is “our point” that she thinks this proves?
I think its outrageous that LCN would print such an inflammatory editorial that identifies people by name and then not allow said people to defend themselves. That is censorship plain and simple. From this point forward I will take anything I read on that so called news sight with a grain of salt. LCN has lost all credibility.
Holy smokes post 720 great work, will it ever stop, the hits just keep coming. Mitchell have you and Liz been drinking the koolaid?
722 you are correct the Mitchell camp is in a desperate condition as well it appears is LCN. My gosh, can anything else happen in a single day. Can we make it till the election, will anyone be left in the LE, will anyone be left to report the news now it is down to the Record Bee and the lovelace group.
Oliver Wendell Douglas: "LCN has refused to allow any responses to their opinion piece we made contact and it was refused. Sorry."
Really? Unbelievable! I would send in letters anyway, demanding equal time. I would think Liz would come to her senses and print them once they are in her hands.
Really? Unbelievable! I would send in letters anyway, demanding equal time. I would think Liz would come to her senses and print them once they are in her hands.
We did send in our response to them, it is the same as were posted here. Direct refusal along with a litany of name calling and screaming by Mr.Jensen not pretty to say the least.
citizens of Lake County please take note of the following comments and times if you are coming on the page for the first time today:
1. Response to LCN opinion piece...Post 2:07
2. Brian Rushing response to LCN hit piece...Post 358
3. Terrible Jail death........Post 5:55
4. Dave Garzoli termination.....Post 7:05
5. Excellent response to Larsen Rivero e-mail...Post 720
1. Response to LCN opinion piece...Post 2:07
2. Brian Rushing response to LCN hit piece...Post 358
3. Terrible Jail death........Post 5:55
4. Dave Garzoli termination.....Post 7:05
5. Excellent response to Larsen Rivero e-mail...Post 720
Here is the e-mail we sent to Mr. Jensen, when we offered to work with them in an open and constructive dialog. Read this message we sent, then read John's response, does it make any sense at all? Or do you think we warranted this response from John, notice he is still bringing up his mom and other odd things that we still don't have a clue what he is talking about. Very interesting you decide citizens. Notice also at the end, John has taken up the Rob Brown I want to rumble suggestion..Unreal.
Well all we can do is make the offer John, that is just the kinda folks we are. You see this isn't about you or your paper, or us and our blog, this is about the evolution of the county to a progressive and forward thinking transparent system of government and accountability. The fact that you or anyone else has to be taken to task is the smallest of the issues. It is the citizens and the county that are important to us John, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain in this evolution the county must go through. The models of change predict exactly these circumstances coming about, and there are many models for change that pinpoint these exact events we now see happening. We have no concern that you would post names of some of the Lovelace group, and we have no concerns that you apply disparaging remarks towards each of those people, or in this case bring up DUI's or any other matters connected to any you choose to attack. It really is of no consequence to any of us. If we take shots from you or anyone else it is of no matter, what is important is the citizens and the county. We know you are scared and concerned, it is part of the effect of these necessary changes, we roll with it, you come unhinged, it is as simple as that. If you look into your heart of hearts you will see the wisdom in this, try it, slow down, and look clearly, the clouds will break open and the sun will shine, it just takes time and a bit of pain.
Here is the response we got. By the way this was also directly after we asked for LCN to post our reply to their opinion piece. Strange indeed.
Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not the least bit scared of you or your group of miscreant anarchists. I am concerned about the hateful tactics your group employs, the lies, the deceit and all the other really sordid stuff you've done as well as the fact that you dragged my 75 year old mom into your nonsense and your group threatened my wife. That was really unforgivable. I'd be happy to meet with you privately to go over these concerns and 'process' the issue if you are man enough.
Feel free to post this on your blog.
Sincerely,
John Jensen
Well all we can do is make the offer John, that is just the kinda folks we are. You see this isn't about you or your paper, or us and our blog, this is about the evolution of the county to a progressive and forward thinking transparent system of government and accountability. The fact that you or anyone else has to be taken to task is the smallest of the issues. It is the citizens and the county that are important to us John, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain in this evolution the county must go through. The models of change predict exactly these circumstances coming about, and there are many models for change that pinpoint these exact events we now see happening. We have no concern that you would post names of some of the Lovelace group, and we have no concerns that you apply disparaging remarks towards each of those people, or in this case bring up DUI's or any other matters connected to any you choose to attack. It really is of no consequence to any of us. If we take shots from you or anyone else it is of no matter, what is important is the citizens and the county. We know you are scared and concerned, it is part of the effect of these necessary changes, we roll with it, you come unhinged, it is as simple as that. If you look into your heart of hearts you will see the wisdom in this, try it, slow down, and look clearly, the clouds will break open and the sun will shine, it just takes time and a bit of pain.
Here is the response we got. By the way this was also directly after we asked for LCN to post our reply to their opinion piece. Strange indeed.
Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not the least bit scared of you or your group of miscreant anarchists. I am concerned about the hateful tactics your group employs, the lies, the deceit and all the other really sordid stuff you've done as well as the fact that you dragged my 75 year old mom into your nonsense and your group threatened my wife. That was really unforgivable. I'd be happy to meet with you privately to go over these concerns and 'process' the issue if you are man enough.
Feel free to post this on your blog.
Sincerely,
John Jensen
John Jensen
You are enough of a man, in fact so much...
You should invest in a "Gut Buster"
You spend way too much on your ass in front of the computer posting lunatic rants and raves and delusional posts. You really should put the Twinkies down and get some excercise before poor Liz has to hold back fat rolls 2,3 & 4 to find the "tool", under that "tool" shed. You should really feel like the BIG man you are by totally destroying all of your wife's hard work, and the crediability of the LCN.
Goth Girl
You are enough of a man, in fact so much...
You should invest in a "Gut Buster"
You spend way too much on your ass in front of the computer posting lunatic rants and raves and delusional posts. You really should put the Twinkies down and get some excercise before poor Liz has to hold back fat rolls 2,3 & 4 to find the "tool", under that "tool" shed. You should really feel like the BIG man you are by totally destroying all of your wife's hard work, and the crediability of the LCN.
Goth Girl
I don't necessarily agree with the style of Goth Girl's remark, but I do agree that Jensen is working hard to destroy all of wife Liz's hard work building credibility. I have to think Jensen is behind the Lake County News craziness, I just can't believe Liz is exercising such poor judgment in letting hubby John run so crazy.
Before they fired Garzoli did the Board of Supervisors get a check from him? He still owes quite a bit of money for all his flight lessons.
Hahahaha....It's fun to watch you people squirm. Personal attacks now? The last resort of scoudrels.
Is it just me but not one blog here or on topix supporting hoppy . There probably three or four mitchell supprters but not one supporter for poor old hoppy . hey hoppy mitchell keeps blaming you for charging dinius but where in his investigation does he say perdick was drinking at konocti , and sacramento based their entire report on perdicks word or that there were 9 witnesses that would testify to lights on .
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Yes it is true post 845, Goth girl might be a little over the top, but she has the background and makes sense, I would temper it a bit. Now on to the subject at hand, this is much more damaging and amazing to see happen then one can really express. I read the message that the Lovelace group sent and the response from Jensen just does not jive. The lovelace message was very well written, strange indeed.
WOW !! What a day Garzoli gets walking papers and it goes almost unnoticed . Go Lovelace Go . How is old Rodney holding up ?
We agree post 845 Goth girl gets a little over the top, but has good inside information I would temper it at a more professional level. Now on to the subject at hand it is amazing to see these strange postings of Mr, Jensen, it does appear the John is off the deep end and hard to imagine that Liz is letting him destroy everything in a fit of strange anger and odd responses. hmmmmmmmmmm
John listen, we are going to do you a favor and hold on your posts for the rest of the night, really you are making very little sense and we think you should chill for the night. Why not hold off till the morning, and see what it looks like then. You are creating a lot of damage to your newspaper and to your position in this county, your posts now are so disconnected we think you should just hold off till the morning. We also want to keep our sites focus on Garzoli and his termination, and the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins, your internet paper at this point is becoming mote. Take a break. The day is closing and it has been a long one. We know it did not work out the way you had hoped, but why not call it a day huh.
Sorry we had to cut John off, for his own good. Hope everyone understands we do not want him destroying his paper single handed, in one day. It is a new day tomorrow. Also we do not know where Liz is in all of this and we suspect she might have a better handle on this then John, so let's leave it at that. John go to bed.
You are right post 900, it is our opinion that Hopkins is dead in the water, no way he gets more then a couple of thousand votes at the most, his days are numbered and that is a done deal.
should we be that mean post 925? You know the old saying "I am not going to believe you just said that for the sake of your own credibility".
citizens of Lake County please take note of the following comments and times if you are coming on the page for the first time today:
1. Response to LCN opinion piece...Post 2:07
2. Brian Rushing response to LCN hit piece...Post 358
3. Terrible Jail death........Post 5:55
4. Dave Garzoli termination.....Post 7:05
5. Excellent response to Larsen Rivero e-mail...Post 720
1. Response to LCN opinion piece...Post 2:07
2. Brian Rushing response to LCN hit piece...Post 358
3. Terrible Jail death........Post 5:55
4. Dave Garzoli termination.....Post 7:05
5. Excellent response to Larsen Rivero e-mail...Post 720
We are still waiting to see either the LCN or the Record Bee post that the Rivero IA is closed and it was a farce from the beginning, the investigation is done all parties have been interviewed,let's get this breaking news story in the morning papers, time to be a professional news organization and report to the citizens the truth.
838 I think JJ is blaming the wrong people for his problems. As far as I am aware of No One Has Made Any Threats to you or Liz. Perhaps you would be wise to look elsewhere JJ including a checkup with your family physician, or laying off the sauce would be another suggestion.
Seems it could only benefit the incombents with the media-blackout not the people of Lake. You did the story on Rivero/Rully's complaint, lets see how long it takes you to do Rivero's he's cleared of all claims and found innocent. How long JJ you gonna take to put that story in? Seems the picture you want to portray is everyone for Anderson and Rivero are criminals of some sort. Well, we a far from it JJ, far from it.
Seems it could only benefit the incombents with the media-blackout not the people of Lake. You did the story on Rivero/Rully's complaint, lets see how long it takes you to do Rivero's he's cleared of all claims and found innocent. How long JJ you gonna take to put that story in? Seems the picture you want to portray is everyone for Anderson and Rivero are criminals of some sort. Well, we a far from it JJ, far from it.
Short and sweet post 941, and short and sweet post 945, by agreement with members of the Lovelace group, we are going to let everyone take a breather, chill out for the night be with family or friends and contemplate the events of this crazy day. Your support has been amazing. Again, the citizens have overcome the attacks,that in the past have stopped most people or groups in their tracks and the elitist and corrupt have maintained their power. We will go to moderation mode for the night, and ask everyone to access the end game. What is critical is getting out the vote, hitting the streets, everyone you talk to everyone you see. Talk to them about Mitchell and Hopkins,tell them truth so they know. The citizens must speak and vote on the 8th. We go to moderation moded
Good night we will return to regular programming in the morning, post your comments we will post them in the morning.
This is the Lovelace group.
Good night we will return to regular programming in the morning, post your comments we will post them in the morning.
This is the Lovelace group.
Hopkins stated in the LCN that he has been practicing for 37 years without a complaint from the State Bar Association. Although it was not acted upon, I am very proud to be the the first complainant with Mr. Haltom being the second. BV
The citizens thank you for your efforts BV...it appears we will not have to turn in anymore complaints after the 8th...
How is it that 2 news sources in the county of lake won't cover the debates and print it in their papers for everyone to read? Doesn't that seem unusual, it is to me.
Mr. Baxter says, "he believes in the right of free press", well then tell them to start printing news on the election.
Baxter says it's time to stand together http://lakeconews.com/content/view/13978/927/ thats true and Mr. Baxter I do appreciate you throwing your hat in the ring and giving us a choice we do need that. I think you would do a wonderful job with the experience you hold.
But LC thugs go with the territory and have been here for a long time. One sits on _ and spreads false information and makes threats to citizens and has had his comrades assist in his wrongs.
This blog has help get some of those voices who have been affected out in the open for which you citicize. But because of who and what, nothing will change until there is a new leadership within the county.
If Frank Rivero wasn't running for sheriff my vote would have gone with you Mr. Baxter. But, I want a sniffer one that will go the whole way to remove the termites not just a spray and assume its done. Rivero is my choice he's the man with integrity and morals and younger. (no offense)
The best thing you could do Mr. Baxter for the people of Lake County would be to stand behind Rivero and offer him your support in this dirty campaign. There would be no question of who would win--it would be the people of Lake.
Mr. Baxter says, "he believes in the right of free press", well then tell them to start printing news on the election.
Baxter says it's time to stand together http://lakeconews.com/content/view/13978/927/ thats true and Mr. Baxter I do appreciate you throwing your hat in the ring and giving us a choice we do need that. I think you would do a wonderful job with the experience you hold.
But LC thugs go with the territory and have been here for a long time. One sits on _ and spreads false information and makes threats to citizens and has had his comrades assist in his wrongs.
This blog has help get some of those voices who have been affected out in the open for which you citicize. But because of who and what, nothing will change until there is a new leadership within the county.
If Frank Rivero wasn't running for sheriff my vote would have gone with you Mr. Baxter. But, I want a sniffer one that will go the whole way to remove the termites not just a spray and assume its done. Rivero is my choice he's the man with integrity and morals and younger. (no offense)
The best thing you could do Mr. Baxter for the people of Lake County would be to stand behind Rivero and offer him your support in this dirty campaign. There would be no question of who would win--it would be the people of Lake.
I totally believe that the ariticle is one sided. LCN asks Rivero to live up to his pledge and denounce all the blog comments and so forth. Well, what about Mitchell who regularly comes onto this site? What about Hopkins who also has come onto this site? Amazing how they all seem to know first hand what is going on with the blogs yet none of them admit to being here! The LCSO have been on the blogs with threats as well as Rivero supporters with comments, threats of whatever nature ect. What about the videos 3 last counted that have been posted on u-tube threats from Neo Nazis? Give me a break LCN, apologie from Rivero and not the others, how one sided is that?
The LCN opinion piece was just awful, what a terrible act of non-journalism!!!
Great response Lovelace...
Great response Lovelace...
One sided BS, it's called LCNs should be called selected and approved by "Lake County Good O'e Boys Newswork".
Those despicable videos aren't campaigning for Mitchell they are strictly hate speech from a lone, deranged individual. This site is campaigning for Rivero, some of the backers are listed as Rivero's endorsers and this site has encouraged people in the real world to take real action against those supporting the other candidate. Not hard to see the difference.
9:58 how right you are Mitchell would never be so crazy to put something like that out there he is not that kind of a man. If you look at other video that person made you can see where he is coming from, so those pinningit on Mitchell are barking up the wrong tree.
SHERIFF'S DEBATE WED'S 5/19
MIDDLETOWN METHODIST CHURCH
Show Down at 12 Noon
being Hosted by the Middle Town Luncheon Club
MIDDLETOWN METHODIST CHURCH
Show Down at 12 Noon
being Hosted by the Middle Town Luncheon Club
yeah but mitchell will go to a murder scene and hug the suspect and then order to cover that murder . he will also take false claims start an ia during an election and not do anything for four months . he will let an employee take helicopter training without bos approval and try to cover that up .
What is Baxters experience at cleaning up a corrupt LE department? I know someone who has a photographic memory, He is able to recall most everything he has ever read or seen. But yet he can't hammer a nail in straight. If I need a answer to something I can ask him. But if he needs something built or repaired he can't do it. Baxter came in riding on Rivero's coat tails and hasn't broken any new ground since. It is easy to finish a job when the materials have been bought and paid for, laid out and partially assembled. Stop and think how far Baxter would have gotten against Mitchell all by him self. Baxter claims no association with blogs? Go to "CalCCW" And see what Mitchell did to Baxter. Mitchell ran over Baxter like road kill. Baxter is no match for Mitchell. Remember this is only the first round and the gloves haven't come off yet. Rivero is doing the dirty work uncovering and exposing the problems in the department. Rivero has paid for the materials. Laid out the plan, And started building. Rivero is the General contractor on this job and he should Finnish it.
950 you didn't mention Jim Belands WRONGFUL TERMINATION SUIT OR the one Morshed will have soon bring did you?
950 lies? Misinformation? Not here unless your a corruption supporter then you can make all the lies and misinformation you want.
Wow what a coincidence now that the investigation by the state bar is over hoppy comes clean and after 7 months of investigation there is a news story . Well Haltom has the right to appeal and I am sure his complaint will contain a lot more meat . Wonder When hoppy will admit this .
I didn't see Baxter at the trial either, Has Baxter ever been to a BOS meeting? I don't remember reading any Letters to the editor or anything that would show his concern until Rivero laid the ground work. If I remember right What Baxter said he was concerned about was the way Mitchell and Hopkins handled the Dinius cover up. I didn't see Baxter in the court room or on the courthouse steps either. The corruption goes deeper than Baxter has any idea of. The dept needs a good cleaning and Rivero knows where the dirt is. By the way where was Markham been for "ALL" these years? Markam, Ringen Rivero and others knew what Mitchell would do if they crossed him. Rivero knew the only way to expose Mitchell's GOB system was at election time and he was willing to take the fight to Mitchell. Baxter used the opportunity to say look at me. Look where I came from. Look at what I did in San Jose. I'm not saying all Baxters ideas are wrong just that Lake county isn't ready for them yet. We need someone who will build a bridge to the So for the citizens first. Above all we can't have has been's return to the SO, Right Pat?
Mr. Jenson, you talk about threats made about your wife, yet I have read every written word of this blog and never seen anything even close to what you claim. However asking OWD if he would like to meet with you in private is a threat. You must feel very sure that Mitchell will not arrest you for "processing" things with someone from the LL group. When I read crap like that, it just makes me wish that someday, someone gives you a little "tune up" and the "process" you deserve. You and Rob Brown are of the same ilk: blow hards that would pee their pants if confronted by someone like me. I am not part of LL but I do read this blog. You, Mr. Jenson started it and then you didn't like it when they didn't back down.
1141, You seem to ask the same question over and over again. I keep on answering the same way. All it shows is that you are not paying attention or you want more of Mitchell's incompetence displayed. So here we go again:
Rivero had fought a 15 year court battle against a corrupt politician, the Medical Examiner of San Francisco. That not only taxed almost all of his money, but he had to lay off employees and loose a lot of business due to the suit. After winning the suit, he not only paid all his obligations, but built his small one building into two large business and was rated the highest mortuary in the Bay Area. He has hired, fired, laid off, promoted and demoted employees. As a narcotic's inspector, he conducted advanced investigations.
What you need to ask is, how can Mitchell with his vast experience as a former Mayor, Sheriff and OES Director could he allow his management to become so incompetent. Mitchell promoted a drunk to lieutenant, a sexist misuser of pubic funds who has no regard for county property be promoted to lieutenant and back to sergeant, a captain who never supervised a deputy as sergeant and a female to Correctional Captain just to have her sit in a room and supervise two deputies. Mitchell could not control Perdock or even control the security of RIMS.
Rivero had no action in Lynn Thornton's death. That happened in 2006. Rivero was hired in 2007. Rivero was briefed about the case by deputies who testified, witnesses and Dinius and his lawyer. All documents are posted on the LCSO website and raises questions from Bealand's termination to Mitchell refusing to call for assistance until three days later.
I am sorry if the truth hurts you, but facts are facts and Mitchell must go. Rivero has worked for LCSO and is aware of how the managers operate. There will be no way for Brown, Bauman or Hall to hide there real work habits. Rivero is the man for the job so just get used to saying Sheriff Rivero.
Rivero had fought a 15 year court battle against a corrupt politician, the Medical Examiner of San Francisco. That not only taxed almost all of his money, but he had to lay off employees and loose a lot of business due to the suit. After winning the suit, he not only paid all his obligations, but built his small one building into two large business and was rated the highest mortuary in the Bay Area. He has hired, fired, laid off, promoted and demoted employees. As a narcotic's inspector, he conducted advanced investigations.
What you need to ask is, how can Mitchell with his vast experience as a former Mayor, Sheriff and OES Director could he allow his management to become so incompetent. Mitchell promoted a drunk to lieutenant, a sexist misuser of pubic funds who has no regard for county property be promoted to lieutenant and back to sergeant, a captain who never supervised a deputy as sergeant and a female to Correctional Captain just to have her sit in a room and supervise two deputies. Mitchell could not control Perdock or even control the security of RIMS.
Rivero had no action in Lynn Thornton's death. That happened in 2006. Rivero was hired in 2007. Rivero was briefed about the case by deputies who testified, witnesses and Dinius and his lawyer. All documents are posted on the LCSO website and raises questions from Bealand's termination to Mitchell refusing to call for assistance until three days later.
I am sorry if the truth hurts you, but facts are facts and Mitchell must go. Rivero has worked for LCSO and is aware of how the managers operate. There will be no way for Brown, Bauman or Hall to hide there real work habits. Rivero is the man for the job so just get used to saying Sheriff Rivero.
The LCN coverage of the election is so biased that I find it questionable when the editor claims to have received a threatening call. Of course, that can’t be verified by anyone except those at LCN or their master, Rodney. The Middletown Times Star had a very well written review of the debates; it didn’t seem to advocate for any one of the candidates in particular but gave a well balanced and objective accounting of the events. That’s real journalism; perhaps John and Elizabeth should pick up a copy.
139 must be Rob Brown. I guess he thinks he's the only one that should be able to grow weed. And to think I always pegged him as a free market kind of guy ;)
I watched 20 seconds and turned it off. What a bunch of lies. Cuba? Oh come on, it is 100% Cuban lead and no wonder it's in the shape it is. America is good due to diversity. Only LCSO refuses to come into the 21st century. You have a black, Hispanic's, females and an Iranian (well not anymore) but not ONE in the command staff.
Do not watch this video, it only gives him some sick pleasure most likely sexual.
Do not watch this video, it only gives him some sick pleasure most likely sexual.
Mr. Jenson, I am not one of the LL group. And as to your opinion that I must be paranoid because I choose anonymity over posting my real name, just read any of the blogs, having ones name in everyone's mouth is not something I find desirable. After this is over, I will make it a point to introduce myself to you at some public event. Again, I am a reader of this blog and many others. Somethings here are right and some are wrong but in Mr OWD defense, he does not come off in his writing style as a man who threatens woman. I believe his sword is in his words. The proof of that is he was able to get your goat. Your style is one of a quick tempered hot head. All I say is be careful of who you accuse because there are those out there who just like to stir the pot and you might find it wasn't who you think it was. There are those who will "use" a hot headed person to carry out their agenda(s) so don't be duped because I know you are far from dumb.
Alright Cromforever/Clint (1:19) we get it; you’re an ignorant bastard that doesn’t like anyone who’s not a white male. Why don’t you add your Kan endorsement to Mitchell’s web site? I guess even Mitchell isn’t stupid enough to acknowledge that endorsement.
Crud, that should read “Klan endorsement” but I guess it doesn’t matter because most Klansmen can’t read anyway.
149 great post. John does come off as a hot head and sure isnt doing himself or his wife any favors.
must be the water because ignorance and arrogance are abundant in lake county politics . send them packing before they deny you your constitutional rights .
HEY Clint! Topix won't allow you to post anymore so now you're here to bug us,,,,Loser skin head wanna be!
Come on John you and Liz did'nt think Bruce was such a scumbag when you were exchanging information with the LL group. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
2:17 I’ll have to call you on that one John. I’ve tried calling LCN and I got no civil discourse. How about your “Editorial”, are you open to discussing that? I invite everyone to call LCN and see if they’ll discuss that editorial in a civil fashion.
Garzoli is gone, terminated, let go, released, dusted, thrown out, removed, dispatched, out of here, and done for!!!!!
This is the Lovelace group another member of our citizens group will be posting an interesting post in the next hour or so, stand by for that.
To John Jensen; When you allow a response to your scathing ignorant opinion piece, to be posted like a real journalist and newspaper we will let you post here, From this point forward your posts will come down. You continue to think you can ride one way on a two way street and it isn't going to happen, and we are tired of your whinning about your mom what ever the hell that is about and your crying about Liz.
To John Jensen; When you allow a response to your scathing ignorant opinion piece, to be posted like a real journalist and newspaper we will let you post here, From this point forward your posts will come down. You continue to think you can ride one way on a two way street and it isn't going to happen, and we are tired of your whinning about your mom what ever the hell that is about and your crying about Liz.
By the way John, you game is way to weak to be posting here in the first place, don't come playing with the big boys or you'll get stomped like you did yesterday, that one really backfired didn't it. Post our response and we will let you play here, if not, your back to the minor leagues!!
Great afternoon of posts, we see that Jensen is wanting to play on our site, because it is the place to be for facts and information on the election and the corruption in our county, don't you wish your paper has such success John. Now remember shortly after the elections we will be launching the new newspaper in Lake County, it will be hard hitting factual and cover all the major issues in this county. We will maintain this Blog, and piggy back off it to the new paper and from the paper to this blog for discussion of the articles and investigations posted, it is going to be a unique approach to proper journalism in our county..
Post 1025 our point with the crom-dome idiot videos is that Mitchell needs to put out a statement of non-association, not that Mitchell did the videos, come on get a clue, this is standard procedure when anything of this nature happens in electionsd and campaigns. If Mitchell does not issue that statement it means he invites Crom-domes vote and agrees that it is ok to post such filth.
Post 1025 our point with the crom-dome idiot videos is that Mitchell needs to put out a statement of non-association, not that Mitchell did the videos, come on get a clue, this is standard procedure when anything of this nature happens in electionsd and campaigns. If Mitchell does not issue that statement it means he invites Crom-domes vote and agrees that it is ok to post such filth.
Record-Bee, Gary Lewis run for Supervisor
Since Gary Luck is buddy with Mitchell and the corruption supporters I hope you don't mind if I answer on your blog.
Gary Lewis you should look for campain support at the Indian Reservation. Remember your speech long time ago at the Board meeting Sept. 28, addition Clearlake-Observer American
Lewis statement out of line
In the article, Mr. Lewis is reported as stating he did not "give a rat's ass how they feel," in response to the suggestion that the board consider local Native American input on the matter. Mr. Lewis showed great disregard for his office the citizen who took the time to attend the meeting and make the suggestion, the entire Native American community, the people who elected him, and all the people of Lake County who work so hard and pay their taxes that paid for the chair he rests his pompous posterior in.
Mr. Lewis has made it clear who and what he is. I hope the voters remember it. Ann Simon, Middletown.
Signed: The Historian And you Roberto Brown want to run for office?
Since Gary Luck is buddy with Mitchell and the corruption supporters I hope you don't mind if I answer on your blog.
Gary Lewis you should look for campain support at the Indian Reservation. Remember your speech long time ago at the Board meeting Sept. 28, addition Clearlake-Observer American
Lewis statement out of line
In the article, Mr. Lewis is reported as stating he did not "give a rat's ass how they feel," in response to the suggestion that the board consider local Native American input on the matter. Mr. Lewis showed great disregard for his office the citizen who took the time to attend the meeting and make the suggestion, the entire Native American community, the people who elected him, and all the people of Lake County who work so hard and pay their taxes that paid for the chair he rests his pompous posterior in.
Mr. Lewis has made it clear who and what he is. I hope the voters remember it. Ann Simon, Middletown.
Signed: The Historian And you Roberto Brown want to run for office?
Nice try John no go away like a good little boy, post the Response or you don't get to post here.
As well Crom-Domes post will always be deleted. We can't have a guy like this making our professional site look bad. Sorry Crommy your dust. Go peddle your wares somewhere else.
As well Crom-Domes post will always be deleted. We can't have a guy like this making our professional site look bad. Sorry Crommy your dust. Go peddle your wares somewhere else.
Nice post Historian, you always have some good input, thanks for the support!!!
In a recent study of the responses to the LCN opinion piece it appears that they lost respect from nearly 75% of those who read the article. The biggest hits they took were for showing their bias for Mitchell. Not a good move John, not a good move at all.
In a recent study of the responses to the LCN opinion piece it appears that they lost respect from nearly 75% of those who read the article. The biggest hits they took were for showing their bias for Mitchell. Not a good move John, not a good move at all.
SHERIFF'S DEBATE WED'S 5/19
MIDDLETOWN METHODIST CHURCH
Show Down at 12 Noon
being Hosted by the Middle Town Luncheon Club
MIDDLETOWN METHODIST CHURCH
Show Down at 12 Noon
being Hosted by the Middle Town Luncheon Club
To begin with, let me state that my name is Tom Carter. As many of you know I was arrested for medical marijuana by the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). I am not allowed to discuss this case, but when it is over, win or lose, I will have my say.
However, there is another story I can tell. There is not enough space for all the details but it started several years ago when I was falsely accused of being a deadbeat dad. Before I could bring my evidence to court I was arrested by the sheriff’s department. I had $2,000 stolen out of my briefcase by one and possibly a second deputy. I will withhold their names for now. Neither one is employed as a deputy any longer due to suspicious circumstances.
After I posted an excessive $50,000 bail with Rob Brown, I went to Rodney Mitchell’s office. I was told that Rodney was in, but wanted to know what my inquiry was about. I told the receptionist that one of his deputies had stolen money from me and that I wanted to make a report and get my money back. The receptionist came back and said Rodney was busy, however he would send someone out to talk to me.
A few minutes later Dave Garzoli came out and talked to me. He listened to my story and when I asked to fill out a complaint he said, “Let me talk to Rodney and we will get back to you.” I gave him my phone numbers. I received no phone calls from the sheriff’s department. Inquiries were made by my attorney, who was told that I had no money in my briefcase.
My complaint was not made anonymously; it was made in person, to their faces. I got no response. I moved on.
A few years passed and another deputy sheriff began to tell people things about me that weren’t true, I will withhold his name for now also. It had to do with medical marijuana. He was on the task force. He started telling people not to do business with me because I was going to be busted soon.
I went to see the district attorney, Jon Hopkins. I told him I was reluctant to come to him because of the stolen money incident. I told him I knew of other stories of the same deputy stealing money from someone else and being fired over it. Hopkins replied, “He worked for me in Family Law, but he wasn’t fired, he resigned.” I said, “I don’t care what you call it, he got caught and he’s gone.” I then told him about my relationship with the task force deputy. I told him the things he was saying about me. I thought since he was new to Lake County maybe he was unaware of some of the corruption that existed in the sheriff’s department. I told him of some of the illegal activities of the deputy who was talking about me. I told him about another deputy who is currently on trial for charges brought against him.
(to be continued)
However, there is another story I can tell. There is not enough space for all the details but it started several years ago when I was falsely accused of being a deadbeat dad. Before I could bring my evidence to court I was arrested by the sheriff’s department. I had $2,000 stolen out of my briefcase by one and possibly a second deputy. I will withhold their names for now. Neither one is employed as a deputy any longer due to suspicious circumstances.
After I posted an excessive $50,000 bail with Rob Brown, I went to Rodney Mitchell’s office. I was told that Rodney was in, but wanted to know what my inquiry was about. I told the receptionist that one of his deputies had stolen money from me and that I wanted to make a report and get my money back. The receptionist came back and said Rodney was busy, however he would send someone out to talk to me.
A few minutes later Dave Garzoli came out and talked to me. He listened to my story and when I asked to fill out a complaint he said, “Let me talk to Rodney and we will get back to you.” I gave him my phone numbers. I received no phone calls from the sheriff’s department. Inquiries were made by my attorney, who was told that I had no money in my briefcase.
My complaint was not made anonymously; it was made in person, to their faces. I got no response. I moved on.
A few years passed and another deputy sheriff began to tell people things about me that weren’t true, I will withhold his name for now also. It had to do with medical marijuana. He was on the task force. He started telling people not to do business with me because I was going to be busted soon.
I went to see the district attorney, Jon Hopkins. I told him I was reluctant to come to him because of the stolen money incident. I told him I knew of other stories of the same deputy stealing money from someone else and being fired over it. Hopkins replied, “He worked for me in Family Law, but he wasn’t fired, he resigned.” I said, “I don’t care what you call it, he got caught and he’s gone.” I then told him about my relationship with the task force deputy. I told him the things he was saying about me. I thought since he was new to Lake County maybe he was unaware of some of the corruption that existed in the sheriff’s department. I told him of some of the illegal activities of the deputy who was talking about me. I told him about another deputy who is currently on trial for charges brought against him.
(to be continued)
I said, “And you think your task force is tight? You have so many leaks in your task force that people get phone calls from the airport telling them where the helicopters are going before they even take off. When my name was mentioned in a task force meeting, I heard about it. All of this came from the mouth of Dave Garzoli.”
I told Jon Hopkins that I grew medical marijuana, and I invited him along with Rodney Mitchell to come to my house to look at my marijuana plants. I told him that I had the legal paperwork required by law. He told me that they didn’t have time to come and do that. As long as I had my paperwork they didn’t care. I told him he didn’t have to come to my house; he could Google my address and see my plants next to my house. He could count my plants from space. I said we need to quit spending all this money on helicopters and hire some computer geek and count people’s plants on Google to see if they were breaking the law.
He said he would talk to the head of the task force and find out what was going on. He would get back to me. He sent me two messages that he was working on it and would let me know soon.
Two months later the task force deputy was removed from the task force and asked to resign or be fired. He resigned. I assumed it was over.
Two years later I was arrested for growing medical marijuana and as I stated earlier, many more details can be said later.
One Lake County supervisor knows part of my story. Two others were personally told, by me, the entire story. Denise Rushing told Anita Grant my story. She said Anita suggested I come forward and make a complaint. I would like to know who else there is to make a complaint to.
I spoke with a member of the grand jury, but was told they won’t talk with someone under indictment.
The Attorney General won’t investigate Lake County. The Department of Justice won’t investigate Lake County. The DEA closes its case on the scandalous helicopter incident it is involved in. Who is left to investigate Lake County?
I contacted Elizabeth Larson from Lake County News. She came to my house and we spoke for over three hours. She was going to investigate my story, help me with some information that she had in her possession, and get back to me. She didn’t call me back.
I spoke with her on other occasions but received no help from her. Now my name is slurred on her website, the Sailing Anarchy website, and the Sheriff Mitchell shadowy blog, by her and her husband, John Jensen.
After hearing part of my story, does anyone wonder why I would support the only candidate attempting to clean up the corruption in this county? Francisco Rivero is the only candidate who has the courage to take on the corrupt element in the sheriff’s department.
This is not about him however, it’s about me. There comes a time in a man’s life when, even at great risk, he stands up for what he believes in. I want to affect a change in this County where I live and your children and my children live.
I know there are good cops and deputy district attorneys working here, and I commend them. I believe that with new leadership the good will become better and that some of the bad can even become good. I look forward to that moment, when others will join me, even if it means risking all that they have, to make Lake County the best it can be.
I have proven to myself and my community many times in the past and I will do so as an example to my children, my friends, and even to my foes.
I’m still here, I’m still fighting, and like Bismarck Dinius, I too will have my day in court.
I told Jon Hopkins that I grew medical marijuana, and I invited him along with Rodney Mitchell to come to my house to look at my marijuana plants. I told him that I had the legal paperwork required by law. He told me that they didn’t have time to come and do that. As long as I had my paperwork they didn’t care. I told him he didn’t have to come to my house; he could Google my address and see my plants next to my house. He could count my plants from space. I said we need to quit spending all this money on helicopters and hire some computer geek and count people’s plants on Google to see if they were breaking the law.
He said he would talk to the head of the task force and find out what was going on. He would get back to me. He sent me two messages that he was working on it and would let me know soon.
Two months later the task force deputy was removed from the task force and asked to resign or be fired. He resigned. I assumed it was over.
Two years later I was arrested for growing medical marijuana and as I stated earlier, many more details can be said later.
One Lake County supervisor knows part of my story. Two others were personally told, by me, the entire story. Denise Rushing told Anita Grant my story. She said Anita suggested I come forward and make a complaint. I would like to know who else there is to make a complaint to.
I spoke with a member of the grand jury, but was told they won’t talk with someone under indictment.
The Attorney General won’t investigate Lake County. The Department of Justice won’t investigate Lake County. The DEA closes its case on the scandalous helicopter incident it is involved in. Who is left to investigate Lake County?
I contacted Elizabeth Larson from Lake County News. She came to my house and we spoke for over three hours. She was going to investigate my story, help me with some information that she had in her possession, and get back to me. She didn’t call me back.
I spoke with her on other occasions but received no help from her. Now my name is slurred on her website, the Sailing Anarchy website, and the Sheriff Mitchell shadowy blog, by her and her husband, John Jensen.
After hearing part of my story, does anyone wonder why I would support the only candidate attempting to clean up the corruption in this county? Francisco Rivero is the only candidate who has the courage to take on the corrupt element in the sheriff’s department.
This is not about him however, it’s about me. There comes a time in a man’s life when, even at great risk, he stands up for what he believes in. I want to affect a change in this County where I live and your children and my children live.
I know there are good cops and deputy district attorneys working here, and I commend them. I believe that with new leadership the good will become better and that some of the bad can even become good. I look forward to that moment, when others will join me, even if it means risking all that they have, to make Lake County the best it can be.
I have proven to myself and my community many times in the past and I will do so as an example to my children, my friends, and even to my foes.
I’m still here, I’m still fighting, and like Bismarck Dinius, I too will have my day in court.
Uh oh now you corruption scum have pissed off Tom Carter, that is a big mistake. Tom Carter is one of the most generous individuals I have ever known. He built Upper Lake with his crew, he provides jobs and keeps his people working. Shame on you and who ever crossed Tom, he is a good man, and many of us respect him very much. When he says things are going to happen, believe me they will. Thanks Tom for bringing this to every ones attention.
L.C.N. Editors, Liz and John.
You accuse the Lovelace Group, 30 of them, of being angry, destructive, Rivero's campaigners.
I call them activists, heroes and freedom fighters. See what's going on in Thailand or in Iran; if you don't stop the dictators and murderers by the root before they control the County which Mitchell already does. I don't want to argue with anybody who buys the ink by the truck load. Since when is boycotting a treat? You quote “When campaigns attack”. I would say when campaigns advertising dollars influence the writers one sided endorsement. Yes, by you Lizzy and John. For many years you have taken sides of the Good ol Boys. As you can see not only have you wrecked the Record-Bee Editorial with your one sided reporting. By doing so for many years you are also part of the downfall of Lake County, 20% unemployment, etc..etc..
You wrote L.C.N. choose to ignore the garbage being put out about deputies and local law enforcement, knowing that it was lies propagated by malicious people.
So Perdock's killing Lynn never happened.
The Gazoly gate (helicopter) never happened. .
Bismarck Dinius case never happened.
I recommend you to check out the blog ***Rivero4Sheriff*** and his 18 paragraphs
Mr. Forsythe, Mr. Brian Rushing, their little escapades with the law D.U.I. And growing little weed, all misdemeanors. What's the difference between Mr. Carter's growing weed and Roberto Buffalo's red face growing plantation? All that doesn't come close to what Mitchel and his criminal law less posse has done, Lake murder by a dirty badge, felony cover-up and I could go on for another page. Well LCN, you would make real good new's reporters in countries where the regime is run by communism as you showed with your editorial. You ask Rivero to apologized (REPUDIATE) Such tactics as the pledge states, well ask Mitchell to do so in the Nazi video case and at the same time, why don't you ask him to open the racist EEOC findings. One of your blogger writes that Rivero has an attitude that suggest he does not believe he does not do anything wrong. There is a serious deep rooted problem. He must be talking about Mitchell. That's exactly how Mitchell acted the past 16 years of promise kept. Time for change. Vote Rivero!
Today's quote: “The county is still in the black” You vote for Mitchell and all his upcoming lawsuits, I guarantee you we will be in a deep deep red ink.
WGA&CA
You accuse the Lovelace Group, 30 of them, of being angry, destructive, Rivero's campaigners.
I call them activists, heroes and freedom fighters. See what's going on in Thailand or in Iran; if you don't stop the dictators and murderers by the root before they control the County which Mitchell already does. I don't want to argue with anybody who buys the ink by the truck load. Since when is boycotting a treat? You quote “When campaigns attack”. I would say when campaigns advertising dollars influence the writers one sided endorsement. Yes, by you Lizzy and John. For many years you have taken sides of the Good ol Boys. As you can see not only have you wrecked the Record-Bee Editorial with your one sided reporting. By doing so for many years you are also part of the downfall of Lake County, 20% unemployment, etc..etc..
You wrote L.C.N. choose to ignore the garbage being put out about deputies and local law enforcement, knowing that it was lies propagated by malicious people.
So Perdock's killing Lynn never happened.
The Gazoly gate (helicopter) never happened. .
Bismarck Dinius case never happened.
I recommend you to check out the blog ***Rivero4Sheriff*** and his 18 paragraphs
Mr. Forsythe, Mr. Brian Rushing, their little escapades with the law D.U.I. And growing little weed, all misdemeanors. What's the difference between Mr. Carter's growing weed and Roberto Buffalo's red face growing plantation? All that doesn't come close to what Mitchel and his criminal law less posse has done, Lake murder by a dirty badge, felony cover-up and I could go on for another page. Well LCN, you would make real good new's reporters in countries where the regime is run by communism as you showed with your editorial. You ask Rivero to apologized (REPUDIATE) Such tactics as the pledge states, well ask Mitchell to do so in the Nazi video case and at the same time, why don't you ask him to open the racist EEOC findings. One of your blogger writes that Rivero has an attitude that suggest he does not believe he does not do anything wrong. There is a serious deep rooted problem. He must be talking about Mitchell. That's exactly how Mitchell acted the past 16 years of promise kept. Time for change. Vote Rivero!
Today's quote: “The county is still in the black” You vote for Mitchell and all his upcoming lawsuits, I guarantee you we will be in a deep deep red ink.
WGA&CA
In Elizabeth’s “Editorial” she demands that Rivero denounce this blog, though he has no connection to it other than a common interest in ridding the LCSO of corruption. She makes no mention of the Klan videos, nor has Mitchell. If there’s an honest interest in returning civility to this election then Mitchell should renounce the videos and clear Rivero in the nonsensical Rully matter. Elizabeth derides this blog though her editorial has no more merit than the least of posts here. Sure, there are sometimes posts on this blog that exceed civility, but her editorial met no higher standard. Tell me, how are the comments connected to that editorial any different from this blog other than that she is the one with the power to choose which messages stay and which go? They may argue that this blog is anonymous but the same is true of theirs; do people not post there under aliases? Only LCN can discern who’s posting under a given alias so, again, it all boils down to whether Elizabeth Larson has complete control or not.
4:07 is what is called a straw man argument. This type of argument is typically employed by those who cannot reason clearly.
4:21 Isn't that what Rivero did at the M'town debate when he compared his violating a direct order not to discuss a case under investigation to a soldier's refusal to shoot unarmed civilians during war time? I wonder if that is Rivero.
Wait, didn't LCN write all of these? Okay which one of you clowns is trying to make us look dumb?
So Perdock's killing Lynn never happened.
The Gazoly gate (helicopter) never happened. .
Bismarck Dinius case never happened.
So Perdock's killing Lynn never happened.
The Gazoly gate (helicopter) never happened. .
Bismarck Dinius case never happened.
Thanks for using your real name Tom. If the rest of the LL people would man up like that, maybe we could actually have a real discussion.
4:24 How could you feel that it is alright to shoot unarmed civilians under ANY circumstance?? I take from your comment that if Mitchell ordered you to shoot a unarmed civilian YOU would?? I don't feel there is safety for my family with the likes of you on the force..<<<<
4:34 Tom started the discussion. Why don't you man up and continue it. Man up and continue Tom's example.
No 428 LCN is a participating elitist member who is part of the total picture of corruption in our county, no LCN did not cause the entire 20% they are a part of the GOB who have created the problems in Lake county.
4:42 are you retarded by any chance? Learned to read yesterday maybe? I think the point is that the two things don't compare at all.
No I'm not in favor of shooting anything at all regardless of circumstance. Largely because I don't have a gun I suppose. Maybe if I had a gun I'd find some use for it but it seems highly unlikely that that would be shooting it.
I've heard they make half decent hammers.
No I'm not in favor of shooting anything at all regardless of circumstance. Largely because I don't have a gun I suppose. Maybe if I had a gun I'd find some use for it but it seems highly unlikely that that would be shooting it.
I've heard they make half decent hammers.
4:58 yes indeed so that's why you should move far far away and escape the evilness lurking behind every badge and courtroom door.
maybe Elizabeth and John aren't good old boys, but in their ineptitude they are supporting the status quo. E & J, come on guys, ask some hard questions, get some real stories. Quit picking on blogs that allow anonymous comments.
Don't worry about the anonymous aspect of the posts, Mitchell and Baxter don't where they blog, worry about the content. And if you can't take the content to bad.
Oh, John have a hit from Roberto's pipe. Take a viagra and have some sex with Liz you both need it. By the way, you make yourself look dum
511 If by unsavory characters you mean people who have grown weed or gotten a DUI, then this whole county is full of unsavory characters. Including politicians,prominent business people,and so called pilars of the community. In this county it's all about who you know and who you ****.
To begin with, let me state that my name is Tom Carter. As many of you know I was arrested for medical marijuana by the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). I am not allowed to discuss this case, but when it is over, win or lose, I will have my say.
However, there is another story I can tell. There is not enough space for all the details but it started several years ago when I was falsely accused of being a deadbeat dad. Before I could bring my evidence to court I was arrested by the sheriff’s department. I had $2,000 stolen out of my briefcase by one and possibly a second deputy. I will withhold their names for now. Neither one is employed as a deputy any longer due to suspicious circumstances.
After I posted an excessive $50,000 bail with Rob Brown, I went to Rodney Mitchell’s office. I was told that Rodney was in, but wanted to know what my inquiry was about. I told the receptionist that one of his deputies had stolen money from me and that I wanted to make a report and get my money back. The receptionist came back and said Rodney was busy, however he would send someone out to talk to me.
A few minutes later Dave Garzoli came out and talked to me. He listened to my story and when I asked to fill out a complaint he said, “Let me talk to Rodney and we will get back to you.” I gave him my phone numbers. I received no phone calls from the sheriff’s department. Inquiries were made by my attorney, who was told that I had no money in my briefcase.
My complaint was not made anonymously; it was made in person, to their faces. I got no response. I moved on.
A few years passed and another deputy sheriff began to tell people things about me that weren’t true, I will withhold his name for now also. It had to do with medical marijuana. He was on the task force. He started telling people not to do business with me because I was going to be busted soon.
I went to see the district attorney, Jon Hopkins. I told him I was reluctant to come to him because of the stolen money incident. I told him I knew of other stories of the same deputy stealing money from someone else and being fired over it. Hopkins replied, “He worked for me in Family Law, but he wasn’t fired, he resigned.” I said, “I don’t care what you call it, he got caught and he’s gone.” I then told him about my relationship with the task force deputy. I told him the things he was saying about me. I thought since he was new to Lake County maybe he was unaware of some of the corruption that existed in the sheriff’s department. I told him of some of the illegal activities of the deputy who was talking about me. I told him about another deputy who is currently on trial for charges brought against him.
(to be continued)
# posted by Anonymous Tom Carter : May 18, 2010 3:45 PM
However, there is another story I can tell. There is not enough space for all the details but it started several years ago when I was falsely accused of being a deadbeat dad. Before I could bring my evidence to court I was arrested by the sheriff’s department. I had $2,000 stolen out of my briefcase by one and possibly a second deputy. I will withhold their names for now. Neither one is employed as a deputy any longer due to suspicious circumstances.
After I posted an excessive $50,000 bail with Rob Brown, I went to Rodney Mitchell’s office. I was told that Rodney was in, but wanted to know what my inquiry was about. I told the receptionist that one of his deputies had stolen money from me and that I wanted to make a report and get my money back. The receptionist came back and said Rodney was busy, however he would send someone out to talk to me.
A few minutes later Dave Garzoli came out and talked to me. He listened to my story and when I asked to fill out a complaint he said, “Let me talk to Rodney and we will get back to you.” I gave him my phone numbers. I received no phone calls from the sheriff’s department. Inquiries were made by my attorney, who was told that I had no money in my briefcase.
My complaint was not made anonymously; it was made in person, to their faces. I got no response. I moved on.
A few years passed and another deputy sheriff began to tell people things about me that weren’t true, I will withhold his name for now also. It had to do with medical marijuana. He was on the task force. He started telling people not to do business with me because I was going to be busted soon.
I went to see the district attorney, Jon Hopkins. I told him I was reluctant to come to him because of the stolen money incident. I told him I knew of other stories of the same deputy stealing money from someone else and being fired over it. Hopkins replied, “He worked for me in Family Law, but he wasn’t fired, he resigned.” I said, “I don’t care what you call it, he got caught and he’s gone.” I then told him about my relationship with the task force deputy. I told him the things he was saying about me. I thought since he was new to Lake County maybe he was unaware of some of the corruption that existed in the sheriff’s department. I told him of some of the illegal activities of the deputy who was talking about me. I told him about another deputy who is currently on trial for charges brought against him.
(to be continued)
# posted by Anonymous Tom Carter : May 18, 2010 3:45 PM
I said, “And you think your task force is tight? You have so many leaks in your task force that people get phone calls from the airport telling them where the helicopters are going before they even take off. When my name was mentioned in a task force meeting, I heard about it. All of this came from the mouth of Dave Garzoli.”
I told Jon Hopkins that I grew medical marijuana, and I invited him along with Rodney Mitchell to come to my house to look at my marijuana plants. I told him that I had the legal paperwork required by law. He told me that they didn’t have time to come and do that. As long as I had my paperwork they didn’t care. I told him he didn’t have to come to my house; he could Google my address and see my plants next to my house. He could count my plants from space. I said we need to quit spending all this money on helicopters and hire some computer geek and count people’s plants on Google to see if they were breaking the law.
He said he would talk to the head of the task force and find out what was going on. He would get back to me. He sent me two messages that he was working on it and would let me know soon.
Two months later the task force deputy was removed from the task force and asked to resign or be fired. He resigned. I assumed it was over.
Two years later I was arrested for growing medical marijuana and as I stated earlier, many more details can be said later.
One Lake County supervisor knows part of my story. Two others were personally told, by me, the entire story. Denise Rushing told Anita Grant my story. She said Anita suggested I come forward and make a complaint. I would like to know who else there is to make a complaint to.
I spoke with a member of the grand jury, but was told they won’t talk with someone under indictment.
The Attorney General won’t investigate Lake County. The Department of Justice won’t investigate Lake County. The DEA closes its case on the scandalous helicopter incident it is involved in. Who is left to investigate Lake County?
I contacted Elizabeth Larson from Lake County News. She came to my house and we spoke for over three hours. She was going to investigate my story, help me with some information that she had in her possession, and get back to me. She didn’t call me back.
I spoke with her on other occasions but received no help from her. Now my name is slurred on her website, the Sailing Anarchy website, and the Sheriff Mitchell shadowy blog, by her and her husband, John Jensen.
After hearing part of my story, does anyone wonder why I would support the only candidate attempting to clean up the corruption in this county? Francisco Rivero is the only candidate who has the courage to take on the corrupt element in the sheriff’s department.
This is not about him however, it’s about me. There comes a time in a man’s life when, even at great risk, he stands up for what he believes in. I want to affect a change in this County where I live and your children and my children live.
I know there are good cops and deputy district attorneys working here, and I commend them. I believe that with new leadership the good will become better and that some of the bad can even become good. I look forward to that moment, when others will join me, even if it means risking all that they have, to make Lake County the best it can be.
I have proven to myself and my community many times in the past and I will do so as an example to my children, my friends, and even to my foes.
I’m still here, I’m still fighting, and like Bismarck Dinius, I too will have my day in court.
# posted by Anonymous Tom Carter : May 18, 2010 3:45 PM
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I told Jon Hopkins that I grew medical marijuana, and I invited him along with Rodney Mitchell to come to my house to look at my marijuana plants. I told him that I had the legal paperwork required by law. He told me that they didn’t have time to come and do that. As long as I had my paperwork they didn’t care. I told him he didn’t have to come to my house; he could Google my address and see my plants next to my house. He could count my plants from space. I said we need to quit spending all this money on helicopters and hire some computer geek and count people’s plants on Google to see if they were breaking the law.
He said he would talk to the head of the task force and find out what was going on. He would get back to me. He sent me two messages that he was working on it and would let me know soon.
Two months later the task force deputy was removed from the task force and asked to resign or be fired. He resigned. I assumed it was over.
Two years later I was arrested for growing medical marijuana and as I stated earlier, many more details can be said later.
One Lake County supervisor knows part of my story. Two others were personally told, by me, the entire story. Denise Rushing told Anita Grant my story. She said Anita suggested I come forward and make a complaint. I would like to know who else there is to make a complaint to.
I spoke with a member of the grand jury, but was told they won’t talk with someone under indictment.
The Attorney General won’t investigate Lake County. The Department of Justice won’t investigate Lake County. The DEA closes its case on the scandalous helicopter incident it is involved in. Who is left to investigate Lake County?
I contacted Elizabeth Larson from Lake County News. She came to my house and we spoke for over three hours. She was going to investigate my story, help me with some information that she had in her possession, and get back to me. She didn’t call me back.
I spoke with her on other occasions but received no help from her. Now my name is slurred on her website, the Sailing Anarchy website, and the Sheriff Mitchell shadowy blog, by her and her husband, John Jensen.
After hearing part of my story, does anyone wonder why I would support the only candidate attempting to clean up the corruption in this county? Francisco Rivero is the only candidate who has the courage to take on the corrupt element in the sheriff’s department.
This is not about him however, it’s about me. There comes a time in a man’s life when, even at great risk, he stands up for what he believes in. I want to affect a change in this County where I live and your children and my children live.
I know there are good cops and deputy district attorneys working here, and I commend them. I believe that with new leadership the good will become better and that some of the bad can even become good. I look forward to that moment, when others will join me, even if it means risking all that they have, to make Lake County the best it can be.
I have proven to myself and my community many times in the past and I will do so as an example to my children, my friends, and even to my foes.
I’m still here, I’m still fighting, and like Bismarck Dinius, I too will have my day in court.
# posted by Anonymous Tom Carter : May 18, 2010 3:45 PM
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