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For the record....Frace, you should know that having a meeting at at public domaine means anyone can attend...what an ass you are..next time rent a place for your meeting and make sure it is not a taxpayer paid venue....as*****!
Transparency? Oh god you got to be crazy! Mitchell is the expert when it comes to NOT having transparency. You got the Bismark Dinius case as an example how not to investigate your own management and the helicopter incident as a headstone of lies from Mitchell not knowing Garzoli was get lessons to testimony to the BOS. Now I may not be a Rivero fan, I could positively say Mitchell needs to go and Rivero is the only one stepping forward to do take the rains. As I've said before, you'll hear a lot more about racism than you've heard so far before the election.
Deputy sheriff's association board responds to Rivero letter
http://lakeconews.com/content/view/11779/927/
http://lakeconews.com/content/view/11779/927/
Response ? What a load of crap. The DSA board just reiterates that We The People should mind our oun business, we are to stupid to understand and we should drop dead. How arrogant.
I read the article that Frace wrote in the paper against Rivero. I can tell you by reviewing hundreds of Frace's reports that he did not write it. He may have placed his name on it, but most likely it was written by Martin or Ostini. Frace is too stupid to be able to compose a letter like that.
Once again the DSA is putting themselves in a vicarious position. If Rivero wins, ONLY because he is the lesser or two evils, than the DSA is in big trouble. The letter indicates the DSA wants to control Rivero, but is still unsuccessful. Rivero has stated numerous times that "he does not want the DSA support because of too many GOB's". It is a department and union gone emuck!
I am a DSA member and do not approve of the DSA getting involved in politics.
Once again the DSA is putting themselves in a vicarious position. If Rivero wins, ONLY because he is the lesser or two evils, than the DSA is in big trouble. The letter indicates the DSA wants to control Rivero, but is still unsuccessful. Rivero has stated numerous times that "he does not want the DSA support because of too many GOB's". It is a department and union gone emuck!
I am a DSA member and do not approve of the DSA getting involved in politics.
You're not a DSA member otherwise you'd know politics is the DSA business. They are a bargaining unit doofus! Politics is what it's supposed to do. Jeeesh, no wonder the cops have a bad rap here. I'm thinking the above post is by Rivero himself.
Oh and it's not "Vicarious" it's precarious, and it's not "emuck" it's amuck. I hope you're doing a better job "reviewing" reports than you can apparently do writing them.
Wee were amazed to see the attempted ploy of Mitchell in his attempted set up of Rivero in asking him to attend this meeting as offered by Mitchell. Ever heard of the Trojan horse, well we all know Mitchell was setting Rivero up for the oldest trick in the corruption book, very wise of Rivero not to attend the meeting offered by Mitchell. Now we had thought why would Mitchell do this, well one thing it tells you is that Mitchell is starting to run scared, he normally would never start this type of activity till much much later in the campaign timeline. This is good news and shows us the activity we are engaged in is working quite well.
We as well would caution everyone in not getting to caught up in the Mitchell vs Rivero antics of a potential election. What Mitchell would like is the focus to be on the conflict on a personnal basis between himself and Rivero, that way the focus goes away from the facts we have been discussing. You'll notice how once this type of discussion starts the Dinius issues fade away, the Garzoli issues fade away, the disability issues fade way, all the mismanagement issues take a back seat, because people only focus on Rivero vs Mitchell, exactly what Mitchell wants, it limits the holes he has to plug in the dike.
What we would like anyone who is running against Mitchell to do, is at some point in time don't worry so much about about attacking Mitchell let the public handle that as we already have the goods on Mitchell no problem, of course you have to defend accusations, but in the long run, it will be better to focus on the new and greater things the new Sheriff is going to do. It is a fine line to walk and one has to be very cautious in this regard.
The lines have already been drawn friends, it is quite simply, the current GOB network will vote for Mitchell, the majority of the new baby boomers in the county will go away from Mitchell, the growers, merchants, young people and those associated with our site will not vote for Mitchell, the critical aspect will simply be to get out the vote.
From our end, we will continue to throw Mitchell and Hopkins under the bus, Hopkins is lying low right now, be he will run out of breath soon and have to surface and his time will come. We will tell you before the election we will be presenting a lot of damaging information and some of this is going to be Mitchell management that is going to cost the county a lot of money and headache. By the way at this point Mitchell or Hopkins will get no endorsements from any one on the BOS or in county government, with the exception of possibly a few, no one wants to damage their own reputation in an endorsement of Mitchell. But as we have said, there is alot in the pipe line, and you will be quite happy with the hammering that these two guys are going to continue to take.
We as well would caution everyone in not getting to caught up in the Mitchell vs Rivero antics of a potential election. What Mitchell would like is the focus to be on the conflict on a personnal basis between himself and Rivero, that way the focus goes away from the facts we have been discussing. You'll notice how once this type of discussion starts the Dinius issues fade away, the Garzoli issues fade away, the disability issues fade way, all the mismanagement issues take a back seat, because people only focus on Rivero vs Mitchell, exactly what Mitchell wants, it limits the holes he has to plug in the dike.
What we would like anyone who is running against Mitchell to do, is at some point in time don't worry so much about about attacking Mitchell let the public handle that as we already have the goods on Mitchell no problem, of course you have to defend accusations, but in the long run, it will be better to focus on the new and greater things the new Sheriff is going to do. It is a fine line to walk and one has to be very cautious in this regard.
The lines have already been drawn friends, it is quite simply, the current GOB network will vote for Mitchell, the majority of the new baby boomers in the county will go away from Mitchell, the growers, merchants, young people and those associated with our site will not vote for Mitchell, the critical aspect will simply be to get out the vote.
From our end, we will continue to throw Mitchell and Hopkins under the bus, Hopkins is lying low right now, be he will run out of breath soon and have to surface and his time will come. We will tell you before the election we will be presenting a lot of damaging information and some of this is going to be Mitchell management that is going to cost the county a lot of money and headache. By the way at this point Mitchell or Hopkins will get no endorsements from any one on the BOS or in county government, with the exception of possibly a few, no one wants to damage their own reputation in an endorsement of Mitchell. But as we have said, there is alot in the pipe line, and you will be quite happy with the hammering that these two guys are going to continue to take.
With all the rhetoric having taken place on this blog the entire election boils down to one fact. In order for a change to take place in the election of a new Sheriff or DA there must be a candidate that is palatable to the electorate. As of now this is not the case. It can be said that this “corruption matter” is not about Mitchell vs. Rivero but if the majority of people, which I think is the case, won’t vote for Rivero then Mitchell wins by default no matter what is said on this blog.
I thought the election wasn't until June? Still plenty of time to dig up Mitchell's back yard don't you think.
Nope I'm not Rivero or even Ringen. I'll never give my name after seeing the destruction of so many deputies. I believe Markham will come in and sweep Rivero and Mitchell under the carpet. You're right about the DSA being a political committee, but I've never seen it taken the extreme as you guys. Don't think I'm part of the DSA? I've been one during the battle with the CO's and how about when Mitchell ran the first time for sheriff. You might even find me in the photograph of deputies supporting Mitchell for sheriff. We all had white shirts on supporting Mitchell's run for sheriff. Perdock, Morshed, Ringen, Garzoli and others standing with Mitchell. How about when we had to bail our the POA site because they couldn't pay the taxes. Or when when Ringen came up with a way to get us 3% at 50 using the Mammoth Lakes model, but you idiots dropped the ball. Stay out of Mitchell's politics and just get us more money and benefits.
Post 9:24, your statement is an interesting however one can tell you are still stuck in a paradigm thinking method, The fact of the matter and reality is a bit different, you appear to be under the impression that whoever is the next sheriff will be running their own show, This in fact is not true. We have discussed very clearly that it will be the citizens that dictate the direction and operation of the local LE, they are paid for by the citizens and they will run their operations with transparency and with the consent of the citizens of this county. There will be a strong and developed citizens committee that will be in constant communications with the Local LE and the local government.
This is a two phase operation, which will consist of the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins and prior to the new sheriff and DA taking office an agenda that will be in part created by the citizens of the county. Rivero has already agreed to this format and this concept and we are happy that he did so.
So do not limit your view of how this is going to work, and do not as concerned about who it is at this point in time, the key is getting Mitchell and Hopkins out, and then formulating the plan for moving forward in a just and transparent agenda with the new Sheriff and Da.
This is a two phase operation, which will consist of the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins and prior to the new sheriff and DA taking office an agenda that will be in part created by the citizens of the county. Rivero has already agreed to this format and this concept and we are happy that he did so.
So do not limit your view of how this is going to work, and do not as concerned about who it is at this point in time, the key is getting Mitchell and Hopkins out, and then formulating the plan for moving forward in a just and transparent agenda with the new Sheriff and Da.
I have said it before and I will repeat Myself, this Blog is enabling people see what type of people are followers of who is running against Sheriff Rod Mitchell, and the longer this blog continues the more votes that are being re enforced for Rod. So keep on keeping on doing a fine job getting the best candidate re-elected.
Now notice I have not used any swear words, not that I ever have on here......also have not used caps like some, but read fast as this for sure will be removed.
Now notice I have not used any swear words, not that I ever have on here......also have not used caps like some, but read fast as this for sure will be removed.
You are also wrong about the majority of people not voting for Rivero you are under the assumption that the people of the county are in the same mindset as the local corruption folks, this is not true, now we know that the Mitchell election machine will try to put Rivero in this light, and it appears that some people buy into this, however the initial impact of the start of the election will not show Mitchell to have any advantage. In fact Mitchell is scared now and he will get more scared as time goes on, as we have said you have to remember as it stands right now the only votes Mitchell can garner is the GOB network of people and the few old folks that have not died off yet in the county, you must realize that all the thousands of people that moved into the county during the last 5 years are not Mitchell voters, the growers and all aspects of the collectives will not vote for Mitchell or Hopkins, the great majority of the baby boomers will not vote for Mitchell or Hopkins, the great majority of the merchants will not vote for Mitchell or Hopkins. You must also remember that in order to win an election in lake county you must knock on doors and lot's of them. Mitchell will not nor will Hopkins be able to knock on as many doors as whoever is running against them. Mitchell or Hopkins may get shot if they don't watch out which doors they knock on, you will not have that issue with whomever is running against them.
Last everyone must remember there are a huge number of corruption issues that will come up between now and the election, we will be breaking things out on a regular basis, and you should know that we are holding back things right now so that they will have more impact toward the end of the election.
Last everyone must remember there are a huge number of corruption issues that will come up between now and the election, we will be breaking things out on a regular basis, and you should know that we are holding back things right now so that they will have more impact toward the end of the election.
Your post 3:49 is a poor poor attempt to simply discredit whoever is running against Mitchell, it is a weak and poor attempt, perhaps it would be important for the folks on the blog to understand that there are several people running this site who have worked on extensive campaigns, some far bigger then small town lake county, you should understand we know all the tricks of the trade and you are not going to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. In the same way that we exposed Mercado, and then had him try to back out of it as if it wasn't him. Small time players are not going to get past us with minor attempts at discrediting canidates or other people we are talking about and discussing. We are not helping Mitchell, you know that is true, and your attempt is a weak and minor one, try a different game plan that one is not going to work.
By the way post 3:49 so don't bother repeating your self again, that old ruse has been used a number of times. The key small timer is that if in fact you really thought we were helping Mitchell you would not have said a word. That would be like the offense telling the other teams defense what the holes were in there own game plan, doesn't make much sense does it. Nor do you in that weak attempt at what we shall call spin. Spin doesn't work with us, try another gameplan no one's coming to that one.
Post 3:46 don’t make any mistake about it who ever wins the election will operate the SO as he/she sees fit. You can not run an organization by a democratic vote of the people. I agree with you that the new Sheriff and DA should involve the citizens as much as possible but reality dictates that such involvement will not always be possible. The Sheriff’s Council should be comprised of various people through out the community not just supporters who provide money. A good leader will surround him self with people that don’t necessarily agree with his views so he/she can look at all sides of various issues. Any candidate that says the community will have actual hands on management of the SO, other than providing views etc., is pandering to the voters.
Rivero appears to be a sue happy coward. He has accused his peers of being racist and running a-muck. Now he does not want to speak in fron of them. It seems to me he would want their support as well as the support of the LPD association and the CPD association. He is running scared. He is running away from what he is. This is not the man I want as sheriff.
We need additional candidates. Simply getting the public to distrust the Sheriff or DA will not benefit the community unless there is a suitable candidate. There is not now a suitable candidate.
Good post 4:12 we agree with the majority of what you wrote and it was well written, we do disagree with you from the context of the hands on management, we are not calling this hands on "management" of the department, of course employee reviews, internal supervision, and these types of items won't be managed by the citizens per sey. What the citizens will be involved in will be the other items and ideas you expressed. Remember we are modeling this idea from a number of cities and counties who have accomplished the very things we are talking about. The difficulty is not in implementing those process's but in first the removal of those that are to far gone to make the change, namely of Mitchell and Hopkins, and then to refocus the paradigms and thought process that others in those departments are brought up in, and show them a new way. This has been done in many communities, Humbolt, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, Orinda, and many others are examples of this. This is not a short sighted uneducated direction we are taking this is and will be the implementation of proven and very successful models which allow the local LE to work in concert with the citizens not in a antagonistic and non-transparent relationship. Keep the faith man this can and will happen, we know you may not have seen or been associated with this type of model, but it is quite viable and can be quite successful.
Remember post 4:27 we have as many and more people saying they will vote for Rivero or whoever is going to be running over Mitchell hands down. When it comes right down to the vote, no matter who is running, they do not by virtue of the numbers need the vote of the local sheriffs personnel, the local DSA members, He or whoever is going to beat Mitchell and Hopkins, there is not enough of them to make a difference. They will have some support of the sheriffs folks and some he will not, the same situation Mitchell is in right now, the critical aspect of a leadership position is that you will always have some who like you and some who don't but it is the citizens and those number of votes that will get the person elected, not the small numbers with the sheriffs department itself. If we want to start counting votes today, we will find many many more who will vote for anyone with the exception of Mitchell and Hopkins. Again everyone tries to keep focusing on the Rivero card, it is not the critical point, believe us, it is the people, not the opinions of some members of the LE. Also remember Mitchell will not get any critical endorsments nor will Hopkins to do so would be public opinion suicide.
Post 4:43 I am not being critical of your model rather I am questioning what leader will buy into it and make it work. Rivero is not the one. He has too many other agendas.
Thanks post 5:10 we thought that you pretty much agreed with the model, and we are trying at this point to stay away from to much focus on those that have indicated they are running, this is going to change in the future, the choices and what may happen are far reaching. We will tell you Rivero does buy into this concept. But lets present a different outlook, for example what if a Markham decides to get in the race, and what if during the course of the elections it appears that if Rivero and Markham get together and one of them bows out because the numbers say the other will beat Mitchell, and because these two have a goal of defeating Mitchell and getting him out of office, they come together and ask those supporting them to send their votes to the single person who it appears has the best chance of beating Mitchell, you then have a double vote hit against Mitchell. It is just a rough idea of the kinds of things that can happen in an election such as this, and only time will tell how all of this works out, but it is quite clear at this point that the low one on the pole and the one who has the biggest hill to climb is Mitchell and Hopkins. We laughed at the second post about come to think of it neither is Mitchell. Thanks for your recent posting they are well written and we appreciate your input and ideas, if the time comes as this all gets clearer and you want to hook up with us feel free to contact us at the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com account e-mail and let us know. We are always looking for sharp quick people to assist.
Wow I got to tell you, Mitchell and Hopkins, the people running this play hardball you two are in deep trouble and if I may say so, you can't stay with these guys, you two have had it way to easy in the past, your not going to be able to fight with this group, I come sfrom a pretty big city and have been up here a few years, I know what it takes do what these guys are talking about, and you know what, these guys got it. You two better batten down the hatches its going to be a rough ride. Or to put it another way, these guys are going to open a can of whoop ass on you, this should be interesting.Good luck Lovelace and more power to ya.
hey lovelace, why don't you run for either DA or Sheriff???????? You seem to already have or will have all the answers to be able to effectively run either agency. Put that law degree you must have to work.
"...they were well aware of the Lake County reputation, and it was not a good one..."
Lake County, in general, has a lousy reputation. You all know that, right?
Lake County, in general, has a lousy reputation. You all know that, right?
I'm confused. How did a candidates' forum put on by several different law enforcement agency unions become a trojan horse set up by Mitchell?
I think that question was asked prior or was it does Perdock currently have keys to the evidence room, I don't know the answer anybody out there?
I don't think that Mitchell has the DSA in his back pocket but you have to remember that the DSA members have to work there when all the smoke clears. It is easy for us outsiders to shoot off our mouths we have nothing to lose, But if you are in the organization one must be cautious. If the truth be known the Sheriff is not as popular with the DSA as this site makes him out to be.
I suspect that is a good point 7:09, however at this point if they do not support him, they should have stepped up to the plate and asked him to step down, even if they cannot force that issue the request would serve a great purpose. He is hurting many members of the police force and he has through his leadership destroyed the reputation of the force. Thus it should be the DSA's responsibility to correct this and protect the good men and women who work in the force.
All right guys if you are going to single line posts they at least have to be funny, and please no need for caps, we can't hear you yelling, really I swear its true when you type in caps we really can't hear you yelling. Watch:
HEY DUDE....see no louder was it.
HEY DUDE....see no louder was it.
In an ideal world it would be the DSA's responsibility to make a vote of no confidence but in todays enviroment the organization is so fractured the members can't trust each other. Thus the way one votes will be used as fodder for others. I am quite sure that the DSA would fall in line with a good leader who truly cares about the public, the organization and its members.
Ah, that is great insight post 7:31, is it that the DSA could actually make a vote of no confidence? But that it would not be able to muster enough votes because of those still allied with Mitchell?
So if the DSA is in Mitchell's back pocket, doesn't that mean they have found a good leader who cares about the public, the organization, and its members, with whom they have fallen in line?
Ok so there are two choices for Sheriff. I'll take Mitchell every time over Rivero. There is no way anyone can possibly vote for him. He has no experience and has other adgendas. His supporters are Brian Lande and Kip Ringen. No way never never never.
Post 7:40, get on the thread, go back and read we have already covered all of that today, get on the current topic.
I think it is interesting that the FTO's on Mitchell's site reading from a script (come on, you think we're that dumb?) made any purpose? Nothing Mitchell or any of the GOB's or DSA members can fix about Lande spilling the beans on them. Going after Lande was interesting, but after young Martin talked about all the agencies he can't hold a job with, Thomas looking like hell in a uniform and Andrews tossing Chawskowski under the bus was just too funny!!!
The video almost looked like Mitchell himself told the four to get in front of the camera and read a script he wrote. As I said, your acting is extremely poor, don't give up your day job.
The video almost looked like Mitchell himself told the four to get in front of the camera and read a script he wrote. As I said, your acting is extremely poor, don't give up your day job.
I read on this blog the name calling of various members of the department because they defend the department. The department is currently like a dysfunctional family in that even though members of the family know that it is having troubles they still often feel protective of the family when attacked by others who they feel do not have the full knowledge to do so. Not all those who have been slammed deserve what has been said about them. Don't paint everyone with the same brush. The public must not treat them the way that the public feels it has been treated by the "department".
The "department" has been privy to various illegal activites including grand theft. Perdock's total lack of remorse and a dysfuntional family cover for him made world news for a reason. These people are criminally insance.
To turn your eye to that is a heinous crime and you are enabling it and encouraging it and normalizing it.
Don't try to pretend, poster 8:19, for one moment, that this doesn't go on (illegal activities in the LE) and there is conclusive evidence of this. As family member of the LE "dysfuntional family" I know first hand that things are so out of hand that NOTHING is beyond some of the rotten cops. Yes, there are certainly good LE, but there are rotten cops and it isn't a sweet dysfuntinal family that extends to the courhouse. Its criminal.
Your post describes not the reality, but the fantasy you would like to believe. The dirty LE? We are taking mayhem and "over the top" behaviors that should be an embarrassment to the "department". Please don't down play it like it is cutsey, cutsey, and "everone's doin it" type stuff. The dysfunctional cruds need a reality check, exposure, dismiseal from EVER being in LE and some need hard time. Let's not pretend it is anything less than deserved after all that has gone on.
To turn your eye to that is a heinous crime and you are enabling it and encouraging it and normalizing it.
Don't try to pretend, poster 8:19, for one moment, that this doesn't go on (illegal activities in the LE) and there is conclusive evidence of this. As family member of the LE "dysfuntional family" I know first hand that things are so out of hand that NOTHING is beyond some of the rotten cops. Yes, there are certainly good LE, but there are rotten cops and it isn't a sweet dysfuntinal family that extends to the courhouse. Its criminal.
Your post describes not the reality, but the fantasy you would like to believe. The dirty LE? We are taking mayhem and "over the top" behaviors that should be an embarrassment to the "department". Please don't down play it like it is cutsey, cutsey, and "everone's doin it" type stuff. The dysfunctional cruds need a reality check, exposure, dismiseal from EVER being in LE and some need hard time. Let's not pretend it is anything less than deserved after all that has gone on.
Earlier poster talks about Perdock doing construction while being paid on leave? Why not? CHP Mike Walker ALWAYS used his patrol car to run his construction company. Ask around. Its a well known fact. Ask Dr. Freeman about it. Of course who cares if a local doctor dips into the taxpayers till? Lord knows he needs some supplemental income just like the poor, poor CHP! Strange bedfellows washing each others hands. Then again the organized crime of any place in the country is sex, drugs (A doctor comes in handy for STD's etc) and construction. Oh, I guess they have been calling that the good old boys. Excuse me, I forgot, Lake County made the big leagues and "everybody knows" poster 8:41 about a little bitty bit of "department dysfunction"...
To post 8:19
I think this site has done an excellent job in making a very clear distinction between the corrupt LE's and those that are not. In fact many many times has the statement been made by the very people running this site, that they wish they could help those within Hopkins and Mitchells departments who were good people and didn't deserve to have to work under Mitchells Leadership. It must be very difficult for those who are good cops to have work under those conditions. This site has made that statement over and over. This is one of the perfect examples of how bad leadership can not only create bad cops but hurt the good ones at the same time, and what a shame that is. I would hope that somehow there was a way for the LCSO people to be able to come together as a single voice and tell Mitchell it is time for him to leave. But as has been recently pointed out it is difficult to organize and cause this condition to come about. In general terms most of the post have targeted individuals, but if there has been generalized posts you are correct in that it should not include those good LE's. How hard can it be for the LCSO's in total to agree that the leadership of the sheriffs dept must go.
On a slightly different subject I have been hearing a lost of banter high and low concerning Bauman, does anyone on the inside have good solid input on the him? Just curious. Hope someone is able to post on this.
I think this site has done an excellent job in making a very clear distinction between the corrupt LE's and those that are not. In fact many many times has the statement been made by the very people running this site, that they wish they could help those within Hopkins and Mitchells departments who were good people and didn't deserve to have to work under Mitchells Leadership. It must be very difficult for those who are good cops to have work under those conditions. This site has made that statement over and over. This is one of the perfect examples of how bad leadership can not only create bad cops but hurt the good ones at the same time, and what a shame that is. I would hope that somehow there was a way for the LCSO people to be able to come together as a single voice and tell Mitchell it is time for him to leave. But as has been recently pointed out it is difficult to organize and cause this condition to come about. In general terms most of the post have targeted individuals, but if there has been generalized posts you are correct in that it should not include those good LE's. How hard can it be for the LCSO's in total to agree that the leadership of the sheriffs dept must go.
On a slightly different subject I have been hearing a lost of banter high and low concerning Bauman, does anyone on the inside have good solid input on the him? Just curious. Hope someone is able to post on this.
I really think post 8:19 was simply indicating that not "all" of the local LE's should be painted with the corruption brush, and I did not get the sense that it was an attempt to minimize the corruption that does exist. That's my two cents on that, and as for your post 8:51 you as well are correct in your anger and concern with the conditions that exist, we understand the frustration that this can cause. For those in the past that have had husbands or wives in the LE and experienced first hand the terrible nature of things that have happened we understand those difficulties.
By the way there were a few MIA posts that were removed, MIA is in direct communications with us, and we are working on various ways of gathering the information she has collected and I will tell you we have a lot of respect for MIA not only for what she is currently going through but what she has gone through. We have choosen to keep the majority of MIA's discussion off the blog as it gets to wound up. We can work more easily with her by different methods. The information she has is detailed and quite extensive, I would suggest it would not be wise to dismiss all of what she says as nothing I can tell point blank you would be making a grave error.
By the way there were a few MIA posts that were removed, MIA is in direct communications with us, and we are working on various ways of gathering the information she has collected and I will tell you we have a lot of respect for MIA not only for what she is currently going through but what she has gone through. We have choosen to keep the majority of MIA's discussion off the blog as it gets to wound up. We can work more easily with her by different methods. The information she has is detailed and quite extensive, I would suggest it would not be wise to dismiss all of what she says as nothing I can tell point blank you would be making a grave error.
Don't think for a minute that MIA's ship left port, it is simply at a different dock right now. MIA and our organization have agreed the system we have set up is a better method for working together.
No apology necessary. Racist Mitchel deserves all profanity words in the book, in all languages around the globe especially in Spanish (Mexico). That is how he treated a lot of Lake County people for the last 12 years. He has no respect for anyone except his friends. Let me re-phrase my profanity from blog written on 12/17/09. Of course Mitchell knows about Sgt.Rosie Townsend's dictator's commands at the jail since he is having fukenvergnugen as of 1999 with her while on duty. Plenty more to come. Stay tuned!
Can I ask you post 9:50 can you say if you are "inside" or "outside" the LE, or family, or friend, it helps to know the connections or perhaps you know him from some other way, were not asking for any details at all, so no comprise of who you are be as vague as you want. But if there is one thing i would like to see happen is more details of the individuals posting, not details of name, and all that, just a vague as the person feels is necessary description but something that gives the readers a better idea the demographics posting.
Remember we clarified the MIA discussion we did not open it to discussion on the site, we hope everyone understands it is simply to much for a single site to attempt to focus on, and still accomplish its other objectives.
My question then based on the current positive comments concerning Bauman is first what does he do at the department what role does that position play? And second how is he handling this whole situation that has unfolded over the past couple of years? In other words, is he a solid Mitchell supporter? Or is he uncommitted to those around him so you don't know? How old is he? Sorry for the rapid fire questions, appreciate the help.
Jim Bauman, a total underachiever who gets transferred into easy jobs. Mitchel's personnel brown nosier, does not have his own opinion, not enthusiastic at all. Is he still running the Lake County Citizens Academy? By invitation only to get a gun permit as per Nine Green application. Of course campaign contributions expected. Plenty more to come, stay tuned.
Thanks for that update post 10:51, you touched on one opinion that was being expressed. Does anyone have anything else that would be appreciated.
All deleted posts except the major profane or utterly ignorant ones are all archived, in a minor page change loss the individuals can comment again, I dont think they were more then one liners
The evidence I had WAS presented to the LE and that is when my troubles began. I reported to the corrupt of the LE who were doing the crimes, so... poster 12:14 your "idea" that the evidence be given to you is a little silly. The cover up on Dinius was real. Why give you the evidence so that you can further cover up on victims of crimes that were initiated by the LE in the first place? Let's pretend that Mitchell doesn't go around with his zipper at half mast. We ALL know that he does and he is out in public with this. He brags about it, he publicly displays it. His closest coworkders have voiced their disgust of his actions in public, so let's not paint Mitchell as ANYTHING but an opportunist, a liar and a cheat.
You say that there is still no factual evidence support criminal activity posted? Mosy likely wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face because you are too busy bootlicking your boss Mitchell. You can't FACE the truth.
There will be criminal complaints and you can depend on that. It just won't be to dirty cops in a fouled county with dirty lawyers and dirty judges. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Did you want me to spell it out for you? C O R R U P T I O N. That is the game of the good ol boys.
It isn't hard to credit LE for illegal activity because itn is rampant and any straight cop can not report anything because then he/she will be out of a job and there will be no one at all to serve the public's safety. Anyone who wants to do a good job can't!
This blog exists because of dirty cops, starting and soon to ending with Mitchell. This blog is serving the citizens when the dirty cops of Lake County can not. Mitchell is a disgrace and should NEVER be able to serve in law enforcement at any level. He isn't even fit enough to empty the trash cans at the station.
You say that there is still no factual evidence support criminal activity posted? Mosy likely wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face because you are too busy bootlicking your boss Mitchell. You can't FACE the truth.
There will be criminal complaints and you can depend on that. It just won't be to dirty cops in a fouled county with dirty lawyers and dirty judges. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Did you want me to spell it out for you? C O R R U P T I O N. That is the game of the good ol boys.
It isn't hard to credit LE for illegal activity because itn is rampant and any straight cop can not report anything because then he/she will be out of a job and there will be no one at all to serve the public's safety. Anyone who wants to do a good job can't!
This blog exists because of dirty cops, starting and soon to ending with Mitchell. This blog is serving the citizens when the dirty cops of Lake County can not. Mitchell is a disgrace and should NEVER be able to serve in law enforcement at any level. He isn't even fit enough to empty the trash cans at the station.
Last nights post 10:51 is an example of what detracts from this blog. During the evening I felt that there were good give and take discussions of issues. The question was asked about Bauman. I was one who posted that he was a good man, not corrupt. Then 10:51 had a need to slam Bauman for some performance issues. I didn’t think this blog was about performance issues but rather corruption issues particularly concerning the Sheriff. There is a difference between corruption and performance issues (that are not mean spirited). Not one of us is with out a flaw or two. Let’s stick to the issue at hand discussing the fate of two political positions.
Bauman as Sheriff? You got to be kidding!! In my 12 years with LCSO this guy has been transferred more times than any supervisor in the department. Mitchell put him in dispatch, admin, jail, back to dispatch, patrol, back to the jail and now running the PR department. Although personally he is a nice guy, he has a very bad memory, takes forever to make a discussion and has the energy of a turtle.
Post 8:18 my concern was that we were asked about Bauman. No one suggested he should be a candidate. He is a good person and is not corrupt in any sense of the word. Maybe an examination of your performance would reveal issues but that would not detract from your being a nice person if non of your actions were malicious. Lets stick to the issues at hand.
Rivero is going to be the next sheriff. He is not "sue happy", he just defended his own business against a crooked Medical Examiner (JUST READ THE PAPER). It is the only suit or complaint of racism he ever made until recently. Rivero was also correct about the racial profiling. This is evident when Andrews threw Chawcoski under the bus in the Sheriff's own website. Let’s also not forget that Mitchell himself said Rivero lied about this on the LCSO site, but if so, why did he not take action against Rivero? That is because I believe the EEOC complaint states otherwise.
Do you think it is right to call someone racial names just because the person said he is not offended? Gregore on this site admitted to saying those words to Rivero and apologized for it. Rivero did except his apology, but what about the many federal, county and state EEO laws that strictly forbid it. Gregore didn't even get a Letter of Discussion over this. Macedo and Hall made "camel jockey" jokes to Morshed during a sergeants meeting and again Morshed was not offended, but does that make it okay? It is still racial remarks that should not be allowed. Remember if Morshed was a black male and a supervisor said something like Niger jockey, is that acceptable? HELL NO AND OPENS LCSO FOR A LARGE LAWSUIT (did you forget the Goodmanson suit?). It does not matter if Morshed says he is offended or not, it is acceptable and Rivero would make sure this is addressed properly.
POST (Peace Officer's Standards and Training) has a basic supervisor class that all supervisors must attend within the first year of promotion. In this class students are taught that you praise in public and discipline in private. The exception to the is racial and sexual comments. As a supervisor you are to speak out against this as soon as you hear it. I guess LCSO believes they do not have to follow POST guidelines.
Ringen was a deputy for 26 years. His own peers elected him President and Vice-President longer than any other person in the union history. Ringen also held the Redwood Chapter President position and was even Vice-President for PORAC (the state peace officer union). No other person in LCSO has ever achieved or even matched that status. I've seen management go after Ringen several times and in one case Ringen made case law history against Mitchell and his management (if you want the link to that case, just ask). Ringen fully supports Rivero and for a guy who spent almost his entire career defending LCSO deputies, that enough for me.
Ringen knows who I am. We had a great discussion at TowerMart in CLO a few weeks ago.
Do you think it is right to call someone racial names just because the person said he is not offended? Gregore on this site admitted to saying those words to Rivero and apologized for it. Rivero did except his apology, but what about the many federal, county and state EEO laws that strictly forbid it. Gregore didn't even get a Letter of Discussion over this. Macedo and Hall made "camel jockey" jokes to Morshed during a sergeants meeting and again Morshed was not offended, but does that make it okay? It is still racial remarks that should not be allowed. Remember if Morshed was a black male and a supervisor said something like Niger jockey, is that acceptable? HELL NO AND OPENS LCSO FOR A LARGE LAWSUIT (did you forget the Goodmanson suit?). It does not matter if Morshed says he is offended or not, it is acceptable and Rivero would make sure this is addressed properly.
POST (Peace Officer's Standards and Training) has a basic supervisor class that all supervisors must attend within the first year of promotion. In this class students are taught that you praise in public and discipline in private. The exception to the is racial and sexual comments. As a supervisor you are to speak out against this as soon as you hear it. I guess LCSO believes they do not have to follow POST guidelines.
Ringen was a deputy for 26 years. His own peers elected him President and Vice-President longer than any other person in the union history. Ringen also held the Redwood Chapter President position and was even Vice-President for PORAC (the state peace officer union). No other person in LCSO has ever achieved or even matched that status. I've seen management go after Ringen several times and in one case Ringen made case law history against Mitchell and his management (if you want the link to that case, just ask). Ringen fully supports Rivero and for a guy who spent almost his entire career defending LCSO deputies, that enough for me.
Ringen knows who I am. We had a great discussion at TowerMart in CLO a few weeks ago.
Good post 4:12 we agree with the majority of what you wrote and it was well written, we do disagree with you from the context of the hands on management, we are not calling this hands on "management" of the department, of course employee reviews, internal supervision, and these types of items won't be managed by the citizens per sey. What the citizens will be involved in will be the other items and ideas you expressed. Remember we are modeling this idea from a number of cities and counties who have accomplished the very things we are talking about. The difficulty is not in implementing those process's but in first the removal of those that are to far gone to make the change, namely of Mitchell and Hopkins, and then to refocus the paradigms and thought process that others in those departments are brought up in, and show them a new way. This has been done in many communities, Humbolt, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, Orinda, and many others are examples of this. This is not a short sighted uneducated direction we are taking this is and will be the implementation of proven and very successful models which allow the local LE to work in concert with the citizens not in a antagonistic and non-transparent relationship. Keep the faith man this can and will happen, we know you may not have seen or been associated with this type of model, but it is quite viable and can be quite successful.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 18, 2009 4:43 PM
Remember post 4:27 we have as many and more people saying they will vote for Rivero or whoever is going to be running over Mitchell hands down. When it comes right down to the vote, no matter who is running, they do not by virtue of the numbers need the vote of the local sheriffs personnel, the local DSA members, He or whoever is going to beat Mitchell and Hopkins, there is not enough of them to make a difference. They will have some support of the sheriffs folks and some he will not, the same situation Mitchell is in right now, the critical aspect of a leadership position is that you will always have some who like you and some who don't but it is the citizens and those number of votes that will get the person elected, not the small numbers with the sheriffs department itself. If we want to start counting votes today, we will find many many more who will vote for anyone with the exception of Mitchell and Hopkins. Again everyone tries to keep focusing on the Rivero card, it is not the critical point, believe us, it is the people, not the opinions of some members of the LE. Also remember Mitchell will not get any critical endorsments nor will Hopkins to do so would be public opinion suicide.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 18, 2009 4:43 PM
Remember post 4:27 we have as many and more people saying they will vote for Rivero or whoever is going to be running over Mitchell hands down. When it comes right down to the vote, no matter who is running, they do not by virtue of the numbers need the vote of the local sheriffs personnel, the local DSA members, He or whoever is going to beat Mitchell and Hopkins, there is not enough of them to make a difference. They will have some support of the sheriffs folks and some he will not, the same situation Mitchell is in right now, the critical aspect of a leadership position is that you will always have some who like you and some who don't but it is the citizens and those number of votes that will get the person elected, not the small numbers with the sheriffs department itself. If we want to start counting votes today, we will find many many more who will vote for anyone with the exception of Mitchell and Hopkins. Again everyone tries to keep focusing on the Rivero card, it is not the critical point, believe us, it is the people, not the opinions of some members of the LE. Also remember Mitchell will not get any critical endorsments nor will Hopkins to do so would be public opinion suicide.
9:10, Ringen knows who you are because you are he. No one else knows or cares about Ringen anymore. Most of the deputies think Ringen sold them out on that ABC segment. If Ringen is all that you say he is, why didn't he do anything about all the corruption aand racism all you people blather about? If he's the big hero you say, wouldn't he have done something about it? Unless he was part of it, or unless it doesn't exist. All you need to know about the Kipster is in the part of the segment where Rivero claims that Ringen was suspended within hours of reporting a racial slur against Rivero. Noyes looks at him and says: "Is that what happened?" and Ringen says "Pretty much." Look at him when he says that. His body language says it all. This blog is about Mitchell and problems in the SO, as I understand it. Just because Mitchell stinks (if that's what you think) doesn't mean Rivero is the solution. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, is no way to do things.
Post 10:21 you need to catch up on this blog, we are way past your ideas, have covered all those bases. By the way yes Mitchell does stink, you are correct.
9:10, Ringen knows who you are because you are he.
Ah good try but nope I'm not Ringen. I've been with LCSO for over 12 years. Maybe I'm in Boats or a detective? McPherson? Perry? Riveria, Ostini or maybe even Kenner. If I was Ringen, I would say so. Ringen has no problem giving his name on this website as he has done plenty of times in the past. I will never give my name because management and few sergeants would go after me and my family. Keep trying Martin and Garzoli.
Ah good try but nope I'm not Ringen. I've been with LCSO for over 12 years. Maybe I'm in Boats or a detective? McPherson? Perry? Riveria, Ostini or maybe even Kenner. If I was Ringen, I would say so. Ringen has no problem giving his name on this website as he has done plenty of times in the past. I will never give my name because management and few sergeants would go after me and my family. Keep trying Martin and Garzoli.
I'm pro Rivero (because nobody else has the guts to go against Mitchell) and I'm not Nine Green. That nut destroyed a good homicide case all because he wanted Expert Witness pay. He harasses his neighbors and treated his past wife like a dog.
That's not case law! Is this the same doofus who reviews Deputy Frace's reports and tries to use big words (Improperly I might add)? That's an article published in a police union, legal defense fund publication written by the attorney who represented Ringen. Dang, I don't even need to be a cop to recognize a self-serving press release when I see one, and not "case law". I'm thinking there is one or two current or former deputies, who don't really have a grasp of what they are talking about figuratively throwing gas on the fire.
One interesting note, the article confirms Sheriff Mitchell's portrayal of Ringen as a person who is not afraid to speak his mind. I wonder why, after all those years under "Mitchell's mismanagement"Ringen didn't speak out on this and other issues much earlier. The answer will shock us I'm sure.
One interesting note, the article confirms Sheriff Mitchell's portrayal of Ringen as a person who is not afraid to speak his mind. I wonder why, after all those years under "Mitchell's mismanagement"Ringen didn't speak out on this and other issues much earlier. The answer will shock us I'm sure.
I'm going to request that we have no more regressions. Some of you have gone from cussing like teenagers to reciting nursery rhymes. From a psychological standpoint, that's incredibly interesting, though not necessarily a good sign.
I recommend you go back to your "truth will set you free" mantra. That was positive.
I recommend you go back to your "truth will set you free" mantra. That was positive.
it seems that Rivero is especially the Golden Guy to go up against Mitchell it is just that He is......poor excuse for backing someone if that is the sole reason,just wait until the show down and see who will toss their hat in the arena time will tell.
Last night Sutter Lakeside Hosp. held their Christmas party out at Robinson Casino. Local LE including LPPD, LCSO and CHP where "lying in wait" for the party goers to come down Lakeshore Blvd & Hwy 29. CHP was up on Hwy 29 in what was obviously an orchestrated muli-dept undertaking. Two SO units and one LPPD unit(Steele) were observed "lying in wait" at the Tower Mart parking lot at around 11:00 pm. I thought DUI check points had to be made know to the public. I though "lying in wait" is against the law. Tower Mart lies beyond the city limits by at least two miles, what was LPPO Steele doing there and out of his jurisdiction?? It was slow...as per the police scanner but people were watching! Where were these same LE depts after the "Wine Alliance Fundraiser" and Hopkins drove off drunk?? Oh Yeah, he gets a pass. I am glad to know that no one was given a DUI from the party and LE's ploy didn't work. So where is the LPPD, CHP, DA and SO's Christmas parties this year, so we can get the State Marshall's office to come watch these local LE/DA party goer's driving!
how many of those "lying in wait" checks involved the officer sticking his or her head into the DUI suspects vehicle? Did you pick up any illegals that night, boys?
those checking points by law are published in the paper, if anyone is stupid enough to drink and drive after that they get what they get, no body IS OUT TO GET THEM.....they make it incrediablily easy to nail them
Sgt. Chris Chwialkowski is the person who sets up all the DUI check points in Lake County.
Yeap thats the same person who slapped a Mexican in the back of the head at a DUI check point.
Yeap thats the same person who said "what if Jose is down in a Sgts meeting."
Yeap thats the same person lying in wait for you to leave your party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person Sheriff Mitchell said did nothing wrong even before the IA was completed.
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person who challanged Landi to fight him off duty at the gym for a fitness machine. What a bully.
Oh yeah. Thats the same person who said he too was called names by fellow employees but there is no problem at the sheriffs office.
Gosh I could go on and on. But whats the point. Sheriff Mitchell will just put out a video Monday saying its not so. Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! What an ass bag.....
Yeap thats the same person who slapped a Mexican in the back of the head at a DUI check point.
Yeap thats the same person who said "what if Jose is down in a Sgts meeting."
Yeap thats the same person lying in wait for you to leave your party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person Sheriff Mitchell said did nothing wrong even before the IA was completed.
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person who challanged Landi to fight him off duty at the gym for a fitness machine. What a bully.
Oh yeah. Thats the same person who said he too was called names by fellow employees but there is no problem at the sheriffs office.
Gosh I could go on and on. But whats the point. Sheriff Mitchell will just put out a video Monday saying its not so. Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! What an ass bag.....
Here's the problem with Rod using his Jethro Bodine, twelve years of schooling clean through the sixth grade, sucka--es to attack a guy with a UC Berkeley Phd.
Subject: Open Letter to Sheriff Mitchell
Sheriff Mitchell,
You have posted a video on the county’s website depicting four officers purportedly responding to allegations made by me. These officers challenged me to respond. Pursuant to your officer’s demand here is my response. I insist that you post my response on the county website alongside the video.
You use a rhetorical bait and switch to obfuscate allegations of misconduct. That is; if your behavior is inexcusable, then defend yourself against accusations that were never made and hope that the truth is lost in the confusion. Three of the four officers that appear in the film have no involvement with the complaint I filed; they were not named in it and I have never suggested that there was any wrongdoing on their part. My complaint named only one of the officers that appeared in the video. It’s noteworthy that in your production, Detective Andrews staunchly defends three of the officers in the video (including himself) but offered no defense of the fourth officer. That officer, Sgt. Chris Chwialkowski, was actually named in my complaint and is at the center of many of the allegations brought forward by myself and others.
I certainly do not contend that all employees at the LCSO are racially profiling or discriminating against fellow employees on the basis of their race or ethnicity, but some are. Having worked there for a year and a half I know firsthand that most of the deputies are honorable public servants. There are a select few, however, that don’t uphold the oath of their office. Sadly, rather than addressing these facts, you have chosen to use your subordinates in an attempt to confuse the issue. I had nothing to gain by going public other than trying to end, once and for all, the disparate treatment of the minorities in Lake County. I stand by my statements made on Channel 7’s news program and remain defiant of attempts to sully my reputation and intimidate me for reporting misconduct.
Brian Lande
Subject: Open Letter to Sheriff Mitchell
Sheriff Mitchell,
You have posted a video on the county’s website depicting four officers purportedly responding to allegations made by me. These officers challenged me to respond. Pursuant to your officer’s demand here is my response. I insist that you post my response on the county website alongside the video.
You use a rhetorical bait and switch to obfuscate allegations of misconduct. That is; if your behavior is inexcusable, then defend yourself against accusations that were never made and hope that the truth is lost in the confusion. Three of the four officers that appear in the film have no involvement with the complaint I filed; they were not named in it and I have never suggested that there was any wrongdoing on their part. My complaint named only one of the officers that appeared in the video. It’s noteworthy that in your production, Detective Andrews staunchly defends three of the officers in the video (including himself) but offered no defense of the fourth officer. That officer, Sgt. Chris Chwialkowski, was actually named in my complaint and is at the center of many of the allegations brought forward by myself and others.
I certainly do not contend that all employees at the LCSO are racially profiling or discriminating against fellow employees on the basis of their race or ethnicity, but some are. Having worked there for a year and a half I know firsthand that most of the deputies are honorable public servants. There are a select few, however, that don’t uphold the oath of their office. Sadly, rather than addressing these facts, you have chosen to use your subordinates in an attempt to confuse the issue. I had nothing to gain by going public other than trying to end, once and for all, the disparate treatment of the minorities in Lake County. I stand by my statements made on Channel 7’s news program and remain defiant of attempts to sully my reputation and intimidate me for reporting misconduct.
Brian Lande
Nice try at covering your own rear end. The words you spoke are recorded for everyone to hear. If what you say is true, your Sergeant (Ringen) let you down and did nothing to resolve the issue for you. I can't believe a word you say or type. Not only do I think you are a coward I think you are a liar.
Nice try Jethro, the question is: will nimrod post the response you demanded in the video? After you guys are through trying to figure out what he said that is.
You are not as smart or crafty as you think you are. Smug is more like it. Us silly ol Lake County idiots need you to tell us what he said. A PHD does not make you smart, it only makes you educated. So I guess his mommy and daddy had some money to send him to school. There are plenty of educated people out there who are as stupid as the day is long you included
You stand by them now, Brian, but what took you so long to make them? By the way, can you provide your definition of racial profiling, because as an "experienced" officer, you certainly know that race CAN be a factor in establishing cause for a detention. Naw, nevermind....Someone like you is not worth the effort.
4:06 Keep going, keep going you were about to admit it! Take that sheet off and show the world. It's like childbirth, you'll feel better when it's out.
Sounds to me like Lande didn't even write the entry. His name is written "signed" but it is posted by "anonymous." Seems to me if Lande wrote and signed the entry, he would've listed posted with his name.
Although I have to admit the big words used in it would come from someone with a Masters Degree or higher.
Well well well, First of all on the Lande post, excellent post, you can try and attack that post all you want, and your treading on shaky shaky ground. To lande, excellent post, and thanks for post here on the site. It is the exact level and genre of communications we need to assist us in returning the county back to its citizens. We will extend our offer as usual to all parties, you can post on the public site and as well if you have further information or need to post on the e=mail account not seen by the general public please do so. That account is sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com. To post 4:58 and several others that followed the Lande comment. You have to stop yourself, you look so ignorant, it is so embarrassing to see you reply in such a small and childish way. I think you should remember we are leaving that post up you can see it has not been deleted, do you know why? Ah well we are of course archiving these post for later use, now how do you think it makes the LE's look and the corruption supporters when in support of them you post like a 5 year old. Well we will leave that post and a few others as a demonstration of the level of ignorance that is present in some of the local LE/DA and goverment people in this county. What a shame. No you know what we are going to do you a favor and remove that post, sorry 4:58, it is just to demeaning to others who are good people in law enforcement.
Yesterday there were some excellent conversations and back and forth communications, between many different sides of the isle. Some of the better posts were from those in the LE, the good ones, the ones who can communicate in a clear and concise manner, and understand the different sides of the equations. To those who posted yesterday, and the good ones today we thank you your contributions, this site will be operational throughout the elections, we have many deep and far reaching investigations that are on-going and we will continue to inform you of that progress. There are going to be hard and difficult times ahead, some of what is going to be brought to light is going to be hard for some individuals but this must happen the justice and transparency of any good LE should be foremost and in concert with the citizens who employ them. For two many years nearly a generation Sheriff Mitchell and DA hopkins have ruled from the ivory tower, I hate to tell you boys the your foundation is crumbling.
Yesterday there were some excellent conversations and back and forth communications, between many different sides of the isle. Some of the better posts were from those in the LE, the good ones, the ones who can communicate in a clear and concise manner, and understand the different sides of the equations. To those who posted yesterday, and the good ones today we thank you your contributions, this site will be operational throughout the elections, we have many deep and far reaching investigations that are on-going and we will continue to inform you of that progress. There are going to be hard and difficult times ahead, some of what is going to be brought to light is going to be hard for some individuals but this must happen the justice and transparency of any good LE should be foremost and in concert with the citizens who employ them. For two many years nearly a generation Sheriff Mitchell and DA hopkins have ruled from the ivory tower, I hate to tell you boys the your foundation is crumbling.
By the way many people have choosen to type their name and post anonymous we do not have an issue with that, it is a forum of commenting that many people have used, there is no difference in posting anonymous and typing your name in the box.
I find it amazing to see the manner in which people post if an individual who is highly educated puts a comment down. It reminds me of the movie "idiocracy" when they say to the only smart guy left as everyone else has been dumbed down by the system, "hey you must be one of them readers"....I for one have respect for those who have accomplished levels of study and education which allows us to hear their opinions and ideas. All should remember the old proverb "If you win the debate you have lost the opportunity to learn"...To those of you hammering those people you perceive to be "to smart" stop, you look foolish and small minded, enjoy the conversation banter back and forth, but make your points to just throw around name calling and profane opinions does nothing for your position, if you feel strongly enough to take a stand then feel strongly enough to write and post in a civil and just manner. Mr. Lande again thanks for the post please keep us updated and offer your ideas when ever you feel compelled.
To the person who just posted the comment concerning the LCSO, and your "situation" with him. We cannot allow this site to be used for personnal issues such as what you have described, We believe to revel this information here is not the right forum. We believe it would be to hard on some of those involved, you mentioned them in your post. your "revenge" can be better served by contacting the individual(s) in a different way. Or as well you can use our e-mail account system which is sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com...with information that would be of interest to us in our quest to remove the bad LE from our county and help the good ones in their present positions. We understand you may have been hurt in the past, and we know those can be difficult to overcome, good luck to you, and again you may post to our e-mail account any information that would serve to correct the current corruption in our county and the poor leadership that exists in the sheriff and DA offices.
That was a very good comeback Lande. I don't know how many times Martin, Garzoli, Macedo and the rest fail to read or listen correctly. Lande never said his FTO's, he said a sergeant and now you know that sergeant was Sgt. Chwialkowski. Although Lande might have spoken late, would you rather he never speak of it? If Lande's complaint was untrue, why hasn't the EEOC complaint been shown or even quoted that Lande's complaint was unfounded or lacks merit to show just cause for further investigation. As a LCSO supervisor, Lande was a very excited deputy that loved his job.
None of the FTO's including Chwialkowski said on camera that Lande was a difficult trainee. Yes we had to talk him through on how to handle a lot of incidents, but I did the same for Frace, Dutra, Smith, Moore and others. That is expected of a first year deputy.
None of the FTO's including Chwialkowski said on camera that Lande was a difficult trainee. Yes we had to talk him through on how to handle a lot of incidents, but I did the same for Frace, Dutra, Smith, Moore and others. That is expected of a first year deputy.
This profession is not for people looking for positive reinforcement from the public. Very often it can be a thankless job and you can't desire accolades, because those are not usually forthcoming. Just do your job to the best of your ability and live with the decisions you've made.
Great post by Lande, the tide is turning in this county, I want to thank the people running this site, it has become the focus for great conversation although it appears some may keep trying to take it down it is a testament to the effectiveness of this forum. It would be far to say that the county is already much better off by virtue of this site, and the significant numbers of both LE and public citizens that are posting here, I have been waiting a long time for a open and transparent system such as this and will continue to watch and post on this site.
To post 7:15 thanks for that comment, we are always appreciative of those posting from the inside such as yourself, your point was well made and indeed we would imagine a lot of first year officers will take time and seasoning to become a solid SO, it still hurts to wonder how many good solid young men that could be working for our local LE but alas have left or not bothered to come, that is poor leadership, and that leadership needs to be held accountable. Again thank you for your comment, and if there is other information that could help us sort all of this out, please post to the e-mail account sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com, if you do not want to be on the public thread for any reason.
"Lande never said his FTO's, he said a sergeant and now you know that sergeant was Sgt. Chwialkowski. Although Lande might have spoken late, would you rather he never speak of it?"
Lande spoke late because he had to make it up or rather manipulate the information to meet his needs. This is just the kind of quick on his feet cop I want protecting me. Let's see; He can't speak up for himself and can't speak up for the public until he gets manipulated by Ringen and Rivero and now the administrator of this site. An 18 month cop who is excitable (at best) is your hero. He should not be a police officer let alone on a swat team where many snap decisions need to be made. Reporting excessive force or race discrimination was his job. He was afraid and unable to make a decision…Well that seems to be his MO.
What about his little buddy the Public Defender. Some Public Defender! If and I say if he witnessed excessive force, he should have had the balls or internal moral ethics to say something. He did not, because he did not want to get his buddy involved. That is a good reason. Both of them lock step with Ringen and Rivero. Birds of a feather floct together or so the saying goes .
Lande spoke late because he had to make it up or rather manipulate the information to meet his needs. This is just the kind of quick on his feet cop I want protecting me. Let's see; He can't speak up for himself and can't speak up for the public until he gets manipulated by Ringen and Rivero and now the administrator of this site. An 18 month cop who is excitable (at best) is your hero. He should not be a police officer let alone on a swat team where many snap decisions need to be made. Reporting excessive force or race discrimination was his job. He was afraid and unable to make a decision…Well that seems to be his MO.
What about his little buddy the Public Defender. Some Public Defender! If and I say if he witnessed excessive force, he should have had the balls or internal moral ethics to say something. He did not, because he did not want to get his buddy involved. That is a good reason. Both of them lock step with Ringen and Rivero. Birds of a feather floct together or so the saying goes .
Sgt. Chris Chwialkowski is the person who sets up all the DUI check points in Lake County.
Yeap thats the same person who slapped a Mexican in the back of the head at a DUI check point.
Yeap thats the same person who said "what if Jose is down in a Sgts meeting."
Yeap thats the same person lying in wait for you to leave your party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person Sheriff Mitchell said did nothing wrong even before the IA was completed.
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person who challanged Landi to fight him off duty at the gym for a fitness machine. What a bully.
Oh yeah. Thats the same person who said he too was called names by fellow employees but there is no problem at the sheriffs office.
Gosh I could go on and on. But whats the point. Sheriff Mitchell will just put out a video Monday saying its not so. Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! What an ass bag.....
# posted by Anonymous : December 19, 2009 3:11 PM
One more thing, Sgt. Chwialkowski is also the officer Rod defended in his video debut against allegations of racism and excessive force by pointing to his arrest statistics. What a nutty argument.
Rod has instituted arrest quotas the deputies must meet. Arrest and even convictions are easy to get, if you’re willing to compromise your integrity. If you lie under oath, falsify evidence, or violate a constitutional right, you can get arrests and even conviction in the short term, until the citizens find out what you’re up to. Then you’re in trouble. That’s were the LCSO is now, in trouble. Praise be to those like Lande with the courage and conviction to speak out.
Yeap thats the same person who slapped a Mexican in the back of the head at a DUI check point.
Yeap thats the same person who said "what if Jose is down in a Sgts meeting."
Yeap thats the same person lying in wait for you to leave your party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person Sheriff Mitchell said did nothing wrong even before the IA was completed.
Oh yeah. Yeap thats the same person who challanged Landi to fight him off duty at the gym for a fitness machine. What a bully.
Oh yeah. Thats the same person who said he too was called names by fellow employees but there is no problem at the sheriffs office.
Gosh I could go on and on. But whats the point. Sheriff Mitchell will just put out a video Monday saying its not so. Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! What an ass bag.....
# posted by Anonymous : December 19, 2009 3:11 PM
One more thing, Sgt. Chwialkowski is also the officer Rod defended in his video debut against allegations of racism and excessive force by pointing to his arrest statistics. What a nutty argument.
Rod has instituted arrest quotas the deputies must meet. Arrest and even convictions are easy to get, if you’re willing to compromise your integrity. If you lie under oath, falsify evidence, or violate a constitutional right, you can get arrests and even conviction in the short term, until the citizens find out what you’re up to. Then you’re in trouble. That’s were the LCSO is now, in trouble. Praise be to those like Lande with the courage and conviction to speak out.
"Lande never said his FTO's, he said a sergeant and now you know that sergeant was Sgt. Chwialkowski. Although Lande might have spoken late, would you rather he never speak of it?"
Lande spoke late because he had to make it up or rather manipulate the information to meet his needs. This is just the kind of quick on his feet cop I want protecting me. Let's see; He can't speak up for himself and can't speak up for the public until he gets manipulated by Ringen and Rivero and now the administrator of this site. An 18 month cop who is excitable (at best) is your hero. He should not be a police officer let alone on a swat team where many snap decisions need to be made. Reporting excessive force or race discrimination was his job. He was afraid and unable to make a decision…Well that seems to be his MO.
What about his little buddy the Public Defender. Some Public Defender! If and I say if he witnessed excessive force, he should have had the balls or internal moral ethics to say something. He did not, because he did not want to get his buddy involved. That is a good reason. Both of them lock step with Ringen and Rivero. Birds of a feather flock together or so the saying goes .
Lande spoke late because he had to make it up or rather manipulate the information to meet his needs. This is just the kind of quick on his feet cop I want protecting me. Let's see; He can't speak up for himself and can't speak up for the public until he gets manipulated by Ringen and Rivero and now the administrator of this site. An 18 month cop who is excitable (at best) is your hero. He should not be a police officer let alone on a swat team where many snap decisions need to be made. Reporting excessive force or race discrimination was his job. He was afraid and unable to make a decision…Well that seems to be his MO.
What about his little buddy the Public Defender. Some Public Defender! If and I say if he witnessed excessive force, he should have had the balls or internal moral ethics to say something. He did not, because he did not want to get his buddy involved. That is a good reason. Both of them lock step with Ringen and Rivero. Birds of a feather flock together or so the saying goes .
Post 8:20 well first of all cut with the swat team heroics line, a great number of LE's have posted about the huge rift between those on the swat team and how they got there, and how the current swat team members are nothing greater then any other officers. How they got on the swat team has nothing to do with skill or being some great cop. Current LE have posted this, so nice try but no ones buying that one. You also are posting directly against the comment of the excellent post of the officer who gave his input on Lande. Your not treading on the most solid ground right now.
Now we all know why any officer would hold back on complaining about the conditions in the sheriffs office. you know the answer to that as well, it is because the attacks that would happen upon that reporting would not be to good would they. Currently the same condition exists in Mitchells kingdom and you know it. Hey we noticed that you did not comment on Sgt. K why is that in fact we haven't heard a single person come out for Sgt K why is that. Now we don't want you to suddenly post a positive comment about him, but I think the writing is on the wall on this one, and you sir are exposed as simply a frustrated GOB who does not like what is about to happen to the kingdom.
Now we all know why any officer would hold back on complaining about the conditions in the sheriffs office. you know the answer to that as well, it is because the attacks that would happen upon that reporting would not be to good would they. Currently the same condition exists in Mitchells kingdom and you know it. Hey we noticed that you did not comment on Sgt. K why is that in fact we haven't heard a single person come out for Sgt K why is that. Now we don't want you to suddenly post a positive comment about him, but I think the writing is on the wall on this one, and you sir are exposed as simply a frustrated GOB who does not like what is about to happen to the kingdom.
We have just removed two posts from a pro corruption supporter, his comment was asking if Lande was Gay because he had a high pitch voice. Well there ya go this is the GOB mentality we are dealing with, this is the reason and the need for change, that dear friends is profiling, that is the hateful words of the GOB and they would claim all is well in the Sheriffs department, what a shame.
Its not an assumption to say the poster was a "corruption supporter" that was exactly the "profile" wasn't it? Or did you miss something about the reason it was removed.
SWAT! Now that's a good one. All you have to do is be a good friend of the team and YOU'RE IN!!!
I remember when Lewis tried for SWAT. After passing the test you all picked him. Than Lewis goes to SWAT school and fails a simple physical fitness test. He goes back and has everyone convinced he passed, until the school calls LCSO and drops a dime on him. Oh and after all of that, Lewis was kicked off SWAT only to be promoted to detective by Mitchell.
Now some LSCO members might say detectives is not a promotion and technically they are right, but it comes with an increase in pay as long as you are a detective, with weekends and holidays off.
I remember when Lewis tried for SWAT. After passing the test you all picked him. Than Lewis goes to SWAT school and fails a simple physical fitness test. He goes back and has everyone convinced he passed, until the school calls LCSO and drops a dime on him. Oh and after all of that, Lewis was kicked off SWAT only to be promoted to detective by Mitchell.
Now some LSCO members might say detectives is not a promotion and technically they are right, but it comes with an increase in pay as long as you are a detective, with weekends and holidays off.
To post 9:10 You assume the wrong assumption, a corruption supporter can be a common citizen, it can be an LE officer it can be a retired officer, we made zero indication of whom it was in detail only that it was a corruption supporter, you my friend are running a bit scared and paranoid as well, get a grip relax and converse, I am sure you would be willing to say that the important thing here above it all is the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins, that should be an easy one for you.
They also said Rivero was Gay because he worked for SFPD. That's a fact right Sgt. Gregore? No speculation there. I guess you are safe in Lake County unless you are Mexican, African American, Disabled, Female, Lesbian, Gay or ? What a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic weirdos!
Thanks for the post 9:15 this is exactly what we have heard over and over concerning the situation with swat, and the rift between the various groups in the sheriffs office, again this is a result of terrible leadership, and he must be removed. That was a great overview on Lewis, and we have heard that several times in the past few months, as we said before if it quacks like a duck well you know the rest of it.
QUESTION
why was jail person name Doug Harvey fired a few years ago? any scoop on that incident? was he a good one or what? if you do not want to answer here send an email to our private e=mail sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com.
why was jail person name Doug Harvey fired a few years ago? any scoop on that incident? was he a good one or what? if you do not want to answer here send an email to our private e=mail sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com.
I would like to hear from Brian Lande in his own words why he failed to report what he saw, heard and was told. Why did you choose this path? Justify to us why you hid?
Doug Harvey stole money from me, any information would be appreciated. Post on public thread or e-mail. Either way. Very interesting.
We will give you one more chance to make some sense, we have already talked about why officers won't say a word because the attacks that happen internally, it is bad enough when you have left the department. We see real well thank you and don't wear the rose colored glasses as you apparently do. Really man try to post something with some substance. Your boring us.
The part of this you are not talking about is how corrupted the public pretnders are. Just go to court and see them laghing and joking around with the da one minute and then letting theyre client get sent to jail the next. The sheriffs would not get away with the stuff they do without the public defenders letti ng them. They never file motions to suppress they never file motions to dismiss they just tell you its your word against a cop and the judge will believe the cop every time so you better just plead guoilty. Is Carter in Mitchells poccket too?
Great site. Thanks Brian for the clarification and just so you know, Brian there is another officer from another agency who also knows that what you say is true, too.
Did you hear that the Sheriffs Assoc. has invited the citys police departments along with the California Highway Patrol to a debate between Sheriff Rod Mitchell and Frank Rivero on January 11th at Kelseyville High School. But, it's closed to the public. Rod Mitchell doesn't want the public there.
Did you hear that the Sheriffs Assoc. has invited the citys police departments along with the California Highway Patrol to a debate between Sheriff Rod Mitchell and Frank Rivero on January 11th at Kelseyville High School. But, it's closed to the public. Rod Mitchell doesn't want the public there.
Why would Rivero want to attend a meeting full of LCSO deputies and Mitchell when one of his priorities is to break up the GOB's. To do this, Rivero would have to demote, discipline or terminate several deputies that do not want to start behaving professional. Rivero would also have to promote persons whom the current management and the union do not approve of. If Rivero goes to this meeting, union members, Mitchell and management would eat him alive. That might be why they want a CLOSED DOOR meeting.
Just wait until the public debates happen. Those union members can speak up, but will have to be prepared for a public answer. The Sheriff position is a publicly elected position not a private security agency (although it seems to be that now).
Just wait until the public debates happen. Those union members can speak up, but will have to be prepared for a public answer. The Sheriff position is a publicly elected position not a private security agency (although it seems to be that now).
Rivero is so outnumbered it is a joke to think he will be elevted and then you talk about how he will demote and terminate AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. He has already lost support in the ranks and all the publicity is not doing him any good. People talk and I listen.
Oh yea those meetings are closed to the public and look it up why it isnot for the general public.
Oh yea those meetings are closed to the public and look it up why it isnot for the general public.
so how much money are we talking about that Harvey ripped off? I head he messed up at the jail>>>>>>>>
Again you have to remember it would not matter who it is that is running for the office of sheriff, the fact of the matter is that some in the LE would be for them and some would not. The small number of votes that equals the LE who do not like Rivero is not going to effect the election count. So lets not worry about that side of things so much, it is the public that is important here. What Mitchell is describing is the same as some senator saying to a person running against them we are going to debate in closed door out of the public view in front of our fellow senators. What a lame idea, silly really makes no sense. Good job Rivero that was a trojan horse set up, cheap little effort on daddy Mitchells part, so sorry didn't work.
By the way to all posting, the Garzoli career tape is available it is on the right hand side of this page below the red button, if you want to hear Garzoli spill the beans, get pinned hard by the talk host, then take a listen to it, just click the link and away you go, its a great listen.
To:Rivero is so outnumbered it is a joke to think he will be elevted and then you talk about how he will demote and terminate AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
That is the same thing they said when Mitchell first ran. You must not have been around when that happened. Ostini, Jones and Curran were reduced in rank. Yes they all did it voluntarily, but just ask them the real story. Garzoli got promoted even after his 100MPH car crash which put Hall in and out of the hospital to this day and McMahon, the drunk, got promoted 18 weeks after pulling a gun on Howe. Great leadership. He's just the guy I want to see running the sheriff's department (NOT).
That is the same thing they said when Mitchell first ran. You must not have been around when that happened. Ostini, Jones and Curran were reduced in rank. Yes they all did it voluntarily, but just ask them the real story. Garzoli got promoted even after his 100MPH car crash which put Hall in and out of the hospital to this day and McMahon, the drunk, got promoted 18 weeks after pulling a gun on Howe. Great leadership. He's just the guy I want to see running the sheriff's department (NOT).
It is a sad commentary on the current state of the sheriffs office under Mitchells leadership, what a shame, so many good people gone down, so little ever done about it in the past, what in gods name were people living in this county thinking about in the past, was it just because it was just a bunch of ignorant ag farmers, to old to know or care. Let's hope the majority of them have died off by now, Mitchell's and Hopkins demise is furthered by those old stupid GOB citizens being out of the picture, each one that dies off is one more vote that leaves these two idiots. May it happen quickly, perhaps some type of flu could further this cause. come on swine flu, take a few more out and lets increase the intellect level to the degree that no would even think about these two nut cases for those positions.
Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[a]says the Lord.
ROMANS 12:19
ROMANS 12:19
The sad commentary is that you would wish dead someone who is not on your side. You are sick and need help. If this is what you promote, I'll go with the ignorant farmers. Matter of fact I'll print this and post it at my favorite haunts.
that is how this blog rolls they want blood, ruin careers make accusation about hubby cheating on wives you get it the whole nice yards,causing any citizen who read the board to start mistrusting LE.
I in the beginning I thought let me see what they have that will change My mind, after being on this site reading for the last couple of weeks I would totally be embarassed and ashamed to be called a follower or a vote for Rivero,it makes me sick to think these guys are better...no way no how
Ed Albea
I in the beginning I thought let me see what they have that will change My mind, after being on this site reading for the last couple of weeks I would totally be embarassed and ashamed to be called a follower or a vote for Rivero,it makes me sick to think these guys are better...no way no how
Ed Albea
December 19, 2009 9:10 AM
"Ringen knows who I am. We had a great discussion at TowerMart in CLO a few weeks ago."
TowerMart? In CLO? Now that's not a place I'd be bragging about hanging out at. CLO is the felon armpit of Lake Co.
"Ringen knows who I am. We had a great discussion at TowerMart in CLO a few weeks ago."
TowerMart? In CLO? Now that's not a place I'd be bragging about hanging out at. CLO is the felon armpit of Lake Co.
This is off topic, but I take offense to the term, "Ignorant Farmer." I have a B.S. in Agriculture and am a Lake County Native. California leads the nation in Agricultural production. Yes, the people who are growing the food and fiber for you and your family are far from ignorant. You, my friend, are and it shows. Thank you for this public service announcement now on with the debate.
Post 5:43, don't play coy with me, the very reason I posted that was to get the very reaction I got. You know exactly the demographics of individual I am talking about. I am not talking about the progressive maybe even "organic" god forbid ag person. I am talking about the old guard brought up in the times when hippies were communist, Nixon was king. They live here and lots of them, they watch TV 19 hours a day, and are all for GMO crops. You know who I am talking about they supported Gary Lewis in the last district 3 election, so lets cut to the chase, stop crying me a river, and give me some input on what you think of that model I described. It could be interesting if you would not get your feelings hurt and talk.
Just checked in to see the organic marijuana farmer has just said that all of the other farmers in lake county are less than he is and he takes up arms against what makes Lake County great. Lake County was built on the farmer pal and you are not a farmer you are a drug dealer. Big hole you dug here. You can't climb out of this one. your true colors have come out. you need to get real and stop fooling yourself. You marijuana growers have polluted the earth and don't even care. Our land is our life. You slink onto others property and steal their water and the use of their land.
't Well I hate to tell you little man but I feel just fine, now for some facts to negate your small trivial diatribe. You sir are ignorant, I have never grown pot You can choose to believe that or not. Doesn't matter to me. My point is a simple one and it has already been made, you can go back slow down try to get a clue and read the post. If you still don't understand it, then you can come back on, write like a two year old cry your pot paranoia, wave your american flag. However I am going to do you a favor, cause I don't come on here to often, I am going to reject what you just posted, and assume you really are sharper then that. That way I leave till the next time thinking you actually do have some understanding to which you can actually converse, so ya ah oh terrible hole I am in, golly what will I do. Get a grip man and try something called conversation.
How can it be yelling when we can't hear them? Yes I know the rule of Internet that if you type in caps you are yelling, but I think they are just doing it for emphasis. So far now the non-corruption supporters have intimated that the Sheriff might get shot if he goes door to door and now you are hoping that all the elderly and especially the old aggies die of the H1N1 virus. Way to go...by the time you are done Rivero will need to bow out in embarrassment for having you guys supporting him. Oh yeah, that's right Rivero is not important to your cause...as long as Mitchell and Hopkins are gone you guys are happy. To what extent will you carry this? Just because we don't agree with everything you represent doesn't make us corruption supporters or law enforcement friends, family...it makes us concerned citizens who don't think rumours and slander is the way to go.
To post 4:05
You are an embarrassment to this forum and to the people that use it. One of the most insensitive things I've seen written on this forum.
You are an embarrassment to this forum and to the people that use it. One of the most insensitive things I've seen written on this forum.
Look at the management Mitchell built since he has been sheriff: Lieutenant McMahon, a drunk who pulled a loaded gun and pointed at another deputy and than a few years later, passed out drunk in front of Davidson's house. Lieutenant Garzoli, crashes a patrol car at 100MPH just going home that caused his passenger to have surgery for several years later, purchases a 100k trailer without the BOS knowledge, has a sexually offending photo of his wife on the wall and than the big helicopter crash incident. Captain Perdock who's involved in the most upsetting boat crash of all time. Finally, Captain Bauman, who can't hold a position more than a few years without having to be moved.
Yeah GOB's and union official's great person to have as a leader.
Yeah GOB's and union official's great person to have as a leader.
Doug Harvey scoop Dec. 19th, 9:28PM.
Jail dictator, Mitchel's sex amusement Sgt. Rosie Townsend knows about that incident very well. That is still too hot to discuss in public. I will notify you within 3 weeks by e-mail. Stay tuned, plenty more to come.
Jail dictator, Mitchel's sex amusement Sgt. Rosie Townsend knows about that incident very well. That is still too hot to discuss in public. I will notify you within 3 weeks by e-mail. Stay tuned, plenty more to come.
Post 7:48 you don't know a thing about Bauman. Movement with in the department is standard and had nothing to do With Bauman's ability. Everyone is periodically transferred to various positions.
"Get a grip man" I think you have been on here more than you let on. You are an angry little man arn't you? Funny you should get so upset. Try to be a better person. Remember, your views are not those of many. I like the old folks around here. They have lived longer than you and are obviously wiser. Sorry yhat you and your kind want them dead. If you don't like what people have to say about your views...Keep them to yourself...Get a grip man! LOL
This is administrator we have bumped the pages, the thread continues on the new page, we have been out today, not sure what the multiple post is above but will leave one posting of the comment. We are now approaching 2500 posts on the blog site, it is a number we never thought would never occur a few months ago. We are so grateful to all the supporters and the corruption people as well who can engage the conversations and bring forth the necessary change in this county. This has been and continues to be the great focus of this citizen exchange. We will re-post our position now.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
Oh by the way, as you can see another child is multiple posting, so all of your know the story, if it continues we will go to moderator mode, and post your comments through our system and eliminate the multiples. As usual no big deal your comments will take a bit longer to post. Again we are thankful to all who are with us in this campaign to help our county.
Yes, please remove all that cut/paste crap. I can't believe these are the same people we are suppose to trust to protect us! They troll around acting like children trying so hard to find out who runs this site and/or disrupt it! To the good LE guys/gals let these people know how much they are hurting you good guys! Many people do not post on here but they do read everything posted here. They are aware of these LE people who are sitting somewhere on the taxpayer dime cutting and pasting just to harrass and disrupt the people on this site who are working for the better of us all!
that is exactly what ticks Me off Assuming LE is stooping to post the kiddie stuff, there are citizens who read and post that find humor in it to get your attention, and it works so it continues.
You conviently delete all that is not lock step with your postings and you call your stuff great, opinions are not welcome here unless it is to get an AC transit stamp across a LE forehead,
Not all LE are all the things you say, I have never met a crook who said that they like LE so rant on...we know who you are because someone spilled the beans while chatting in so call private to a friend...that is what's funny everyone has a friend who has a friend and so on a nd so on...they all know.
You conviently delete all that is not lock step with your postings and you call your stuff great, opinions are not welcome here unless it is to get an AC transit stamp across a LE forehead,
Not all LE are all the things you say, I have never met a crook who said that they like LE so rant on...we know who you are because someone spilled the beans while chatting in so call private to a friend...that is what's funny everyone has a friend who has a friend and so on a nd so on...they all know.
The lovelace original post said, another child, Lovelace does not care who it is, if another individual suggests it is LE that is their opinion, if it is your opinion otherwise then post it. However we already have massive content from actual LE identified as such a perfect example being Mercado, posting that kind of childish stuff, so don't try to say none do it. Period.
This is administrator we have bumped the pages, the thread continues on the new page, we have been out today, not sure what the multiple post is above but will leave one posting of the comment. We are now approaching 2500 posts on the blog site, it is a number we never thought would never occur a few months ago. We are so grateful to all the supporters and the corruption people as well who can engage the conversations and bring forth the necessary change in this county. This has been and continues to be the great focus of this citizen exchange. We will re-post our position now.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
Doug Harvey scoop Dec. 19th, 9:28PM.
Jail dictator, Mitchel's sex amusement Sgt. Rosie Townsend knows about that incident very well. That is still too hot to discuss in public. I will notify you within 3 weeks by e-mail. Stay tuned, plenty more to come.
Excellent, get facts figures all the details as possible, thanks for the help
Jail dictator, Mitchel's sex amusement Sgt. Rosie Townsend knows about that incident very well. That is still too hot to discuss in public. I will notify you within 3 weeks by e-mail. Stay tuned, plenty more to come.
Excellent, get facts figures all the details as possible, thanks for the help
Again you have to remember it would not matter who it is that is running for the office of sheriff, the fact of the matter is that some in the LE would be for them and some would not. The small number of votes that equals the LE who do not like Rivero is not going to effect the election count. So lets not worry about that side of things so much, it is the public that is important here. What Mitchell is describing is the same as some senator saying to a person running against them we are going to debate in closed door out of the public view in front of our fellow senators. What a lame idea, silly really makes no sense. Good job Rivero that was a trojan horse set up, cheap little effort on daddy Mitchells part, so sorry didn't work.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 20, 2009 1:41 PM
By the way to all posting, the Garzoli career tape is available it is on the right hand side of this page below the red button, if you want to hear Garzoli spill the beans, get pinned hard by the talk host, then take a listen to it, just click the link and away you go, its a great listen.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 20, 2009 1:41 PM
By the way to all posting, the Garzoli career tape is available it is on the right hand side of this page below the red button, if you want to hear Garzoli spill the beans, get pinned hard by the talk host, then take a listen to it, just click the link and away you go, its a great listen.
I just want to make a post of thanks to those running this site, someone is finally giving the good people of this county a chance to air their concerns, I have been hear for almost 10 years and have seen more disfunctional child like antics from the local LE to the Local BOS, I am amazed at the lack of intellect, and forward thinking objectives from this group of people. I will say that I am a mother of 3 and know that there are good people in these organizations, but I think they are pushed down and supressed by the their own leaders and those following them. All I can hope is that the people running this site keep it up and good luck, to you all.
By the way I was told about this site by what I think is a good Local police officer, he was expressing his concerns during a conversation with my husband and told us to go to this site. So the sheriffs people are reading and watching this page, Just wanted to pass that on.
Can someone please verify the exact current status of Sgt. Townsend please, have her duties changed recently, is she still operating the work program? I have been out a week, but was curious as to her connection to the Disability issue that was mentioned and her status in running the program, yes I am disabled and was watching the investigation into this on the site. Thanks for the help and info.
Tommy, nice comment and as a fellow deputy I have enjoyed working with you for almost as long as you've been with LCSO. We have handed numerous crimes together and even socialized off duty together. Just one correction, I believe it was 2000 when you were working part time in detectives or you can say part time in patrol. You drove a slick top (For those who don't know, that a cop car with no overhead lights) old Caprice, I think it was Ostini's old car.
I don't know what the problem of this is, but I will say that I never saw Andrews involved in any racial profiling or even making fun of any race (unlike Hall, Macedo picking on Morshed and Ski).
I don't know what the problem of this is, but I will say that I never saw Andrews involved in any racial profiling or even making fun of any race (unlike Hall, Macedo picking on Morshed and Ski).
Where is Lande's response in Ms. Sweeny's front page above the fold article? Notice the sheriff's department wraps gifts for needy kids article right next to the one slamming Lande. Talk about being in Mitchell's pocket! Everyone should call Gary Dickson, the editor of the Record Bee, @ 263-5636 X 24 and ask him to publish Lande's response.
Before using Martin, Thomas and Andrews to throw up a smoke screen for the department, Mitchell already knew that Lande had hot accused any of them. Lande gave a detailed internal affairs interview to LCSO Captain Cecil Brown and the BOS's and County Counsel's investigator, Dave Brown concerning all of his allegation. Mitchell knew for a fact that Lande had never mention Martin, Thomas or Andrews before he produced the video. Shame on him!
Not to many persons know, but Capt. Brown interviewed Lande at the Santa Cruz Sheriff's Office. His interview was so insulting that the Internal Affairs supervisor had to physically escort Brown off the property.
wow this who Mitchell expose is blowing up right in his face, unbelievable, post 10:25 is right on the mark, Mitchell is creating smoke screens, someone has to get to this guy, he must step down, there is no need for him to continue, it appears now Mitchell has crossed the line into the blatantly illegal cover-up spin mode. Again those of us who have been around a while have seen these tactics used before, the only difference now is Mitchell is being uncovered and it is time for him to resign. How possibility can he stay in office, this is a nightmare of corruption and it keeps getting deeper and deeper.
Question, through the FOIA can we request the internal investigation file when complete or before? It would seem the citizens have a right to this information? Anyone knows the answer to this please post.
You see corruption supporters, it is a new world now, there is transparency, there is open communications, the internet and a system that can be put in place that does not allow this level of corruption to occur again, and to stop it now.
Question, through the FOIA can we request the internal investigation file when complete or before? It would seem the citizens have a right to this information? Anyone knows the answer to this please post.
You see corruption supporters, it is a new world now, there is transparency, there is open communications, the internet and a system that can be put in place that does not allow this level of corruption to occur again, and to stop it now.
I emailed the Record Bee a copy of Lande's response. Here is their response:
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From: Elizabeth Larson
show details 8:18 PM (14 hours ago)
Thanks, Brian Lande has sent me this and I have his contact info. I've already witnessed the video and noted Det. Andrews' comments.
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From: Elizabeth Larson
show details 8:18 PM (14 hours ago)
Thanks, Brian Lande has sent me this and I have his contact info. I've already witnessed the video and noted Det. Andrews' comments.
The moment a person see's the Christmas tree photo of Mitchell and the kids it tells you he has started his election campaign. What a terrible ploy on his part, to use the kids as a front for his election efforts, and to see that Gary at the record bee bought into it hook line and sinker is a sad and scary commentary, when finally the corruption has reached down to the level of the press being in bed with the sheriff and DA we have a very serious problem. Thank god we have some sharp people now in the county who can stop this nightmare once and for all.
Post 11:14 you mean you sent it to the Lake Co. news and that was the response from Elizabeth Larson. Correct or did I get confused?
To post 11:10 that is interesting information, we need to keep note of that fact, and as well is there anyway to gather anymore information on the nature of that interview and what was being done more specifically. Anyway to get a comment from the internal affairs officers on this. Perhaps it might be time to get in touch with an actual transparent LE in Santa Cruz and get input from that end of things. The understanding is that no one in most of the other sheriffs departments will even communicate with the lake county sheriffs office because they simply don't want to be connected or associated with the nightmare that is our current sheriffs department.
FLASH FLASH FLASH
To the citizens of Lake county the fight for justice continues
Subject Dave Garzoli takes a new job:
What you say doesn't he still work for the sheriffs department, well dear friends he may at the moment but based on the following information and documentation he may be making a quick exit, or spending tax payers money doing both, what you say I don't get it?
Well let's lay out the facts just in: We have received this information from a confidential source here are the facts:
Dave Garzoli is now conducting business as an insurance salesman
Dave Garzoli insurance license number is 0G74659
Dave Garzoli is working for Mark Davis Insurance Agency located in Lakeport and Ukiah.
Dave Garzoli is handing out folded xerox copies of 100 dollar bills as business cards, which has his full name on it including license infor and e-mail address;
The e-mail address should you wish to send Dave Christmas greetings is:
dgarzoli@sbcglobal.net
It has been reported that some of these business cards have been handed out while on duty with the sheriffs department. That's right on the citizens dime.
First just as a side note, the 100 dollar bill on one side is an exact duplicate copy of genuine us currency, This may be counterfeiting, as there are very specific rules when making copies of bills we believe that a bill of any denomination must be either 5 times its normal size or 5 times smaller then its normal size, and that no portion of us currency can be copied in part or total unless those guidelines are met, hey may be this will be the way we finally get the FBI in here.
Next, Sheriff Mitchell did you know and were you aware of this career change Mr. Garzoli was making? What portion of this career change was accomplished on the citizens dime? Mr. Mitchell did you know these cards were at times being handed out on the citizens dime? Mr. Mitchell were you aware of the totality of the activities of Mr. Garzoli? Mr. Mitchell will you now step down, we are giving you opportunity after opportunity to step down professionally, you continue to refuse, we continue to expose you and your corrupt supporters, there is much more in the pipeline Mr. Mitchell and we just might be planning a set of Christmas gifts for posting on Christmas eve, shall we say presents for the citizens of the county.
Oh by the rumor has it that Garzoli is selling Helicopter insurance!!! lol
Last question is Garzoli planning a quick exit? It appears very likely we will be watching Mr. Garzoli we will be watching. The eyes of the citizens are upon you and your corrupt supporters, we have help across the county inside and outside.
To the citizens of Lake county the fight for justice continues
Subject Dave Garzoli takes a new job:
What you say doesn't he still work for the sheriffs department, well dear friends he may at the moment but based on the following information and documentation he may be making a quick exit, or spending tax payers money doing both, what you say I don't get it?
Well let's lay out the facts just in: We have received this information from a confidential source here are the facts:
Dave Garzoli is now conducting business as an insurance salesman
Dave Garzoli insurance license number is 0G74659
Dave Garzoli is working for Mark Davis Insurance Agency located in Lakeport and Ukiah.
Dave Garzoli is handing out folded xerox copies of 100 dollar bills as business cards, which has his full name on it including license infor and e-mail address;
The e-mail address should you wish to send Dave Christmas greetings is:
dgarzoli@sbcglobal.net
It has been reported that some of these business cards have been handed out while on duty with the sheriffs department. That's right on the citizens dime.
First just as a side note, the 100 dollar bill on one side is an exact duplicate copy of genuine us currency, This may be counterfeiting, as there are very specific rules when making copies of bills we believe that a bill of any denomination must be either 5 times its normal size or 5 times smaller then its normal size, and that no portion of us currency can be copied in part or total unless those guidelines are met, hey may be this will be the way we finally get the FBI in here.
Next, Sheriff Mitchell did you know and were you aware of this career change Mr. Garzoli was making? What portion of this career change was accomplished on the citizens dime? Mr. Mitchell did you know these cards were at times being handed out on the citizens dime? Mr. Mitchell were you aware of the totality of the activities of Mr. Garzoli? Mr. Mitchell will you now step down, we are giving you opportunity after opportunity to step down professionally, you continue to refuse, we continue to expose you and your corrupt supporters, there is much more in the pipeline Mr. Mitchell and we just might be planning a set of Christmas gifts for posting on Christmas eve, shall we say presents for the citizens of the county.
Oh by the rumor has it that Garzoli is selling Helicopter insurance!!! lol
Last question is Garzoli planning a quick exit? It appears very likely we will be watching Mr. Garzoli we will be watching. The eyes of the citizens are upon you and your corrupt supporters, we have help across the county inside and outside.
To the BOS and county counsel when will you get off your collective asses and do something? When will you stop throwing your hands in the air and do something, If this site can expose this corruption and total mismanagement of the leaders of the DA's office and the Sheriffs office, why can't you do something on your own, anything!!!! Do something or get out of the office. Step up and tell the public you are angry at the sheriff and those organizations, at least stand on your moral principles if you don't have the ability to stand on the ground of what's right for the citizens.
you got something to chew on and it seems you are about to bust a blood vessel...easy does it earthings...
Post 12:39 just a slight change we have so much to chew on we can't fit it all in. Bust a blood vessel, nah don't think so but you might want to get a tourniquet ready for Mitchell and Garzoli. And check yourself to I suspect the old blood pressure might be on the rise, first signs ya know just watchin out for ya.
I was just reading a story of how a USCG vessel in San Diego Harbor responding to a call collided with a family in stopped vessel while doing between 30 and 40 kts. It killed a 8 yr old boy. I called DA Hopkins and Sheriff Mitchell and left them a message that stated with their expertise they should call down there and maybe clue the Coast Guard in on how to charge the anchored boat driver with manslaughter
here is something to research find out why so many mental cases that are also jail bird flooding the Clearlake area especially housed at Lighthouse behind the bar on Lakeshore, mental cases that require going to be evaluated while a cop has to baby sit them, see what you can find out about that and how to stop import loonies that don't live here in the first place.
post 8:39 I was reading the posts last night and the person making those comments was not the "people running this site". Random people come on here and make comments that the site manager removes before anyone sees. If you are so smart, you would read the posts and study the writing styles of different posters and you will see a pattern. Then you too would be able to identify different posters. Also I have never read anywhere on here that this site was all about Rivero. This site is about Mitchell and Hopkins being gone, period! Also, I can tell by your writing style that you are either posting from your phone and/or are undereducated and probably a woman!
Boy a lot of questions have been asked overnight and after the I team report, all will be answered I suspect in due time, don't think they haven't been noticed and recorded and archived. They have and those plus much more will be acted upon in due time.
wow this whole Mitchell expose is blowing up right in his face, unbelievable, post 10:25 is right on the mark, Mitchell is creating smoke screens, someone has to get to this guy, he must step down, there is no need for him to continue, it appears now Mitchell has crossed the line into the blatantly illegal cover-up spin mode. Again those of us who have been around a while have seen these tactics used before, the only difference now is Mitchell is being uncovered and it is time for him to resign. How possibility can he stay in office, this is a nightmare of corruption and it keeps getting deeper and deeper.
Question, through the FOIA can we request the internal investigation file when complete or before? It would seem the citizens have a right to this information? Anyone knows the answer to this please post.
You see corruption supporters, it is a new world now, there is transparency, there is open communications, the internet and a system that can be put in place that does not allow this level of corruption to occur again, and to stop it now.
Question, through the FOIA can we request the internal investigation file when complete or before? It would seem the citizens have a right to this information? Anyone knows the answer to this please post.
You see corruption supporters, it is a new world now, there is transparency, there is open communications, the internet and a system that can be put in place that does not allow this level of corruption to occur again, and to stop it now.
I just want to make a post of thanks to those running this site, someone is finally giving the good people of this county a chance to air their concerns, I have been hear for almost 10 years and have seen more disfunctional child like antics from the local LE to the Local BOS, I am amazed at the lack of intellect, and forward thinking objectives from this group of people. I will say that I am a mother of 3 and know that there are good people in these organizations, but I think they are pushed down and supressed by the their own leaders and those following them. All I can hope is that the people running this site keep it up and good luck, to you all.
We are now approaching 2500 posts on the blog site, it is a number we never thought would never occur a few months ago. We are so grateful to all the supporters and the corruption people as well who can engage the conversations and bring forth the necessary change in this county. This has been and continues to be the great focus of this citizen exchange. We will re-post our position now.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
Sheriff Mitchell and D.A. Hopkins must be removed from office. We are determined to maintain a live and current flow of information about the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office.
No single individual can go head to head with these criminal organizations, but collectively we can see to it that they are disbanded and that new, prudent leadership emerges. We urge all individuals to post what information they have, keep abreast of the content on this page, and stay true to the cause of removing these people from power and restoring our freedoms and liberties.
We will repeat what we have said many times in the past, do not take us lightly, we are determined and our causes for the return of justice to the citizens of this county will be fullfilled. You can whine and cry about it, you call us any number of names. You do not know who Lovelace is, you do not know the core of people running this site, you will not know them, until we choose to allow it. It was apparent from the opening of this site, the necessity of anonymity because the forces in power would attack anyone they knew. This has been the lynch pin of our success.
To those that would support Mitchell and Hopkins or any aspect of the GOB, we say to you think again look around you, get a clear view and you will see the reason for the course of our actions. In due time we will release the process in full motion to the citizens. This site will unfold into a full multiple page newspaper for the people for the citizens, and we will speak the truth and we will demand transparency. It is long overdue in this county.
As we approach 2500 posts in a very short period of time, we invite you to call this site to the attention of more people we are now watched outside the county and far and wide the issues of our county are being exposed to others that will support us. This as well will be very important when election time gets closer, so that we can put a common call out to change the leaders of this corrupt system.
For those that have missed the announcement of the audio on the Garzoli career change from kgo radio, it is located on the right side of the page under the red button, just scroll down, and click on the link and the audio will play, it is amazing to hear the talk show host pin this guy. For you listening pleasure.
Ya that audio along with the recent revelation of his new job as a insurance salesman does finish's that off, Fact of the matter is there has been some talk that Mr. Garzoli may be coming to bat for the citizens of this county. The rift between him and Mitchell is so bad, and we hope this actually happens that Garzoli will come to this site and meet with the citizens who are supporting the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins. Indeed we invite all Le's who are ready for change to post to the e-mail account and make contact with us. The account is sheriffmitchell@gmail.com We are very thankful to the many inside people throughout the LE the DA and the local government who have come to us with information that has been helpful in some of the investigations.
If you and your friend are being chased by a bear you don't have to out run the bear. You only have to outrun your friend. Mitchell is running out of friends. I wouldn't volunteer for that position.
Yes we are constantly amazed at the triteness of these people, in fact it is a bit scary that this level of ignorance exist in Our local LE, we know that the majority of their actions are based on a massive fear in them that we have created, that fear then turns into anger. Every time we put a post up of some facts or figures or an investigation underway, they literally start running around like little kids who got caught with their pants down. It is amusing in one way but quite disconcerting that these are the people representing the LE. The sad part is these people making the good ones in LE look so bad, it is a shame, that they soil the reputation of so many people in this way.
Yes we are constantly amazed at the triteness of these people, in fact it is a bit scary that this level of ignorance exist in Our local LE, we know that the majority of their actions are based on a massive fear in them that we have created, that fear then turns into anger. Every time we put a post up of some facts or figures or an investigation underway, they literally start running around like little kids who got caught with their pants down. It is amusing in one way but quite disconcerting that these are the people representing the LE. The sad part is these people making the good ones in LE look so bad, it is a shame, that they soil the reputation of so many people in this way.
To the person asking about Internal Affairs.
First, I am NOT a Mitchell supporter. Now, The Peace Officers Bill of Rights state that a peace officers files can not be open to the public without just cause. To open a file, one must file a Pitchess Motion in Superior Court.
So here is your answer. If the IA has names of peace officers suggesting misconduct and another IA is opened on those employees, the motion would most likely be denied.
Here is an example of a proper Pitchess Motion: In criminal court, the defendant is accused of battery on a peace office. The defendant states he was only defending himself from excessive force. A Pitchess Motion is filed to access the arresting officers file. The file is viewed behind closed doors (usually in the judges chambers) only to see if there has been any history of excessive force.
You can contact an attorney and see if he will file a Pitchess Motion for you, but it will not be free. Good luck.
First, I am NOT a Mitchell supporter. Now, The Peace Officers Bill of Rights state that a peace officers files can not be open to the public without just cause. To open a file, one must file a Pitchess Motion in Superior Court.
So here is your answer. If the IA has names of peace officers suggesting misconduct and another IA is opened on those employees, the motion would most likely be denied.
Here is an example of a proper Pitchess Motion: In criminal court, the defendant is accused of battery on a peace office. The defendant states he was only defending himself from excessive force. A Pitchess Motion is filed to access the arresting officers file. The file is viewed behind closed doors (usually in the judges chambers) only to see if there has been any history of excessive force.
You can contact an attorney and see if he will file a Pitchess Motion for you, but it will not be free. Good luck.
to 10:25am. Maybe Mitchell knew, but the point is the public didn't and Lande's comments and the editorial around them were misleading at best. I wonder, can someone post the definition of "Racial profiling"?
Internal affair investigations can not be made public unless the affected officer first makes it public. A pitches motion as described above is only for a defendant to claim a bias on the part of an arresting officer. Its intent is to show a bias by the officer. The judge reviews the officers P-file and if he thinks there is information in the file that is relevant he can make only that information available to the defense. One can not ask for a pitches motion just for the release of information for public distribution.
Racial profiling is the inclusion of racial or ethnic characteristics in determining whether a person is considered likely to commit a particular type of crime or an illegal act or to behave in a "predictable" manner.
You are only partially right about Pitches. Pitches Motions have been used hundreds of times in civil cases involving peace officers against management and civilian cases against peace officers from excessive use of force to sexual harassment.
As I said before, to file, you must show just cause. Just wanting to see it for the good of the public is not just cause.
As I said before, to file, you must show just cause. Just wanting to see it for the good of the public is not just cause.
Garzoli flips a car and injures a passenger deputy for life. He then is involved in unauthorized helicopter training that ended in a crash. Perdock lies to investigators and than lies on the stand. Morshed also lies on the stand. Mitchell refuses to get another agency to the Dinius/Perdock crash. Chawcowski is accused of racism and is now back on the street. Beland is terminated only for his testimony. Ringen is forced to retire after reporting racism and Rivero reports racism that Mitchell said an investigation showed he lied, but nothing done. How can ANYONE believe that Mitchell knows what the hell he is doing. I've never seen such a mess in such a small little department. It makes you wonder if the deputies are this bad, I can't wait to hear what the jailer's are doing or did.
Re-post of original Ringen post,
I am retired LCSO Sergeant Kip Ringen. I retired honorably on April 15, 2009, after 30 years in law enforcement, 27 of those years at Lake County S.O. (I was here while Rodney was rinsing produce in Sacramento)
First, yes, I was placed on administrative leave four (4) hours after informing Capt. Russ Perdock and Lt. Cecil Brown about discrimination and racial slurs directed towards Frank Rivero. These actions and comments were made by other deputies about Frank.
Secondly, I initially considered running for Sheriff myself, but I believed Frank was the best candidate to protect the citizens of Lake County and lead the Sheriff's Dept. in a new and positive direction. So, as soon as I learned Frank Rivero was running for Sheriff, I immediately placed my support behind him.
On August 5th, I posted on Frank's facebook that I supported his candidacy. About an hour and a half (1 1/2) later I received a call from the D.A.'s office. I was told that I could not stop by the investigator's office any longer. I was told that they did not want it to look like the D.A. was supporting Frank.
Thirdly, Frank is absolutely correct. The positions of child abuse detective and elder abuse detective (which are grant funded) have been vacant for years. Children and seniors are the most vulnerable citizens in our society. I find it appalling Mitchell has left these positions unstaffed for so many years.
I dedicated 27 years to the citizens of Lake County. I would still be serving the county if not for Mitchell's mismanagement of the department.
I am retired LCSO Sergeant Kip Ringen. I retired honorably on April 15, 2009, after 30 years in law enforcement, 27 of those years at Lake County S.O. (I was here while Rodney was rinsing produce in Sacramento)
First, yes, I was placed on administrative leave four (4) hours after informing Capt. Russ Perdock and Lt. Cecil Brown about discrimination and racial slurs directed towards Frank Rivero. These actions and comments were made by other deputies about Frank.
Secondly, I initially considered running for Sheriff myself, but I believed Frank was the best candidate to protect the citizens of Lake County and lead the Sheriff's Dept. in a new and positive direction. So, as soon as I learned Frank Rivero was running for Sheriff, I immediately placed my support behind him.
On August 5th, I posted on Frank's facebook that I supported his candidacy. About an hour and a half (1 1/2) later I received a call from the D.A.'s office. I was told that I could not stop by the investigator's office any longer. I was told that they did not want it to look like the D.A. was supporting Frank.
Thirdly, Frank is absolutely correct. The positions of child abuse detective and elder abuse detective (which are grant funded) have been vacant for years. Children and seniors are the most vulnerable citizens in our society. I find it appalling Mitchell has left these positions unstaffed for so many years.
I dedicated 27 years to the citizens of Lake County. I would still be serving the county if not for Mitchell's mismanagement of the department.
Isn't it amazing there have been thousands of posts, and one maybe two LE's have ever ever actually used their name. Only Ringen stepped up to the plate and Rivero. The rest hide and post hide and post, you would think if they felt strongly enough they would be willing to post with their name, why is only those leveling the charges against Mitchell and Hopkins have posted their name. What's the matter LE's who still support Mitchell why can't you use your name. Now we understand why those good cops don't and can't use their name as of course their career here in the county would be quite short.
Proud of you Kip Ringen. We are here to put a stop to the corruption in Lake County. We will work together to put Frank Rivero in office. Rid the SO of Rodney Mitchell and of course replace Jon Hopkins.
Scott Feil and Dave Garzoli shared the same helicopter. They shared the cost of the delivery and return of that helicopter. Does that mean the DEA grant paid some of the Feil helicopter lessons? The same DEA who arrested Feil. Up until the crash Feil was the only person who knew Garzoli was flying the helicopter(on a DEA grant!)
This is the same individual who won his appeal to the 9th district court in San Francisco forcing the DEA to return 120,000 dollars taken from him during the raid.
Odd connections I would say so, hey sheriffs office hey Mitchell, what was the reason the two were flying together?
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This is the same individual who won his appeal to the 9th district court in San Francisco forcing the DEA to return 120,000 dollars taken from him during the raid.
Odd connections I would say so, hey sheriffs office hey Mitchell, what was the reason the two were flying together?
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