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Roger that on Mitchell and Hopkins, and agree on the name calling thing, appeared to majority of the pro-corruption folks but none the less for all parties involved, it is a better approach
i believe EEOC is still on going, and as reported earlier there is a further investigation on going, with several individuals participating from within the county. The exact nature and level of those individuals is under wraps right now, however information is coming out and who is involved and what their directives should be forthcoming in a few days.
Yes Perdocks leave it would appear is over, however I wonder if it was extended?
Yes Perdocks leave it would appear is over, however I wonder if it was extended?
Perdock's attorney,
Alison Wilkinson of San Rafael, writes, "On or around June 16, 2009,
Russell Perdock, a Captain with the Lake County Sheriff's Department,
went on approved leave status after visiting a medical professional who
indicated that he had a medical condition that required an absence from
employment for 45 days."
Gee I wonder what that medical condition was can you say "stress"....
Alison Wilkinson of San Rafael, writes, "On or around June 16, 2009,
Russell Perdock, a Captain with the Lake County Sheriff's Department,
went on approved leave status after visiting a medical professional who
indicated that he had a medical condition that required an absence from
employment for 45 days."
Gee I wonder what that medical condition was can you say "stress"....
am I correct that KPFZ had Hopkins on the radio yesterday, and allowed no call ins for questions etc. A closed comment political rant allowed by Hopkins and allowed by KPFZ, without community input? Please someone confirm with me this situation. If in fact this is the case, we need to question the motives of our community radio, payed for by the citizens, it appear that if this is the case Tim, Andy and others are using our public radio to further their political cause, they must be brought to task for this if in fact what is described is the case. Where are your alliances Tim, Andy, what is going on here. We don't want to hear the excuse of oh ya well we are going to do another show that allows call ins. That don't fly.
Obviously Tim and Andy are in on the conspiracy. This is truely larger than first suspected. To think Law Enforcement ci corrupt, the Judicial system is corrupt and not the Press. Well Lake County that just about wraps up the constitution. Tine to call in the FBI and the US Attorneys Office. The Feds need to come in and take this county over.
At this point, we don't know any details of Perdock's medical
condition. Wilkinson adds that while Perdock was on leave, Sheriff Rod
Mitchell informed him "he was the subject of an internal affairs
investigation concerning allegations of misconduct". She provided no
details of the allegations and added that the investigation is being
carried out by the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office, that the final
report should be finished sometime around August 15th.
In his original motion for access to Perdock's personnel records, Bismarck Dinius' defense
attorney Victor Haltom asks for access to records that are "germaine to
issues concerning alleged dishonesty, moral turpitude, falsification of
testimony, fabrication of evidence, making material misstatements,
incompetence, aggressive behavior, racial or gender bias, actual or
attempted violence, excessive force, and/or the filing of false
reports."
condition. Wilkinson adds that while Perdock was on leave, Sheriff Rod
Mitchell informed him "he was the subject of an internal affairs
investigation concerning allegations of misconduct". She provided no
details of the allegations and added that the investigation is being
carried out by the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office, that the final
report should be finished sometime around August 15th.
In his original motion for access to Perdock's personnel records, Bismarck Dinius' defense
attorney Victor Haltom asks for access to records that are "germaine to
issues concerning alleged dishonesty, moral turpitude, falsification of
testimony, fabrication of evidence, making material misstatements,
incompetence, aggressive behavior, racial or gender bias, actual or
attempted violence, excessive force, and/or the filing of false
reports."
Garzoli took a demotion over the helicopter stuff, that way Mitchell
can't take any actions. The DA can if it found to be criminal.
can't take any actions. The DA can if it found to be criminal.
There in lies the problem and what we have been saying all along, both Mitchell and Hopkins must go, there is no question of that, I would suspect that the DA has never even thought about looking at actual criminal allegations against Mitchell, not going to happen with this DA. And isn't that interesting, even with Mitchell throwing the DA under the bus on the Dinius trial the DA still sits by and does nothing, what power is it that Mitchell has over Hopkins, may be if Hopkins would come clean he would have a chance but alas that is not going to happen either. Hey may be the BOS will look at it, oh no wait that won't work, hey maybe Anita Grant will look at it, oh no wait that won't work, hey may be the grand jury can be called in, oh wait no that won't work. Hey I have a good idea why don't start a website called Sheriff mMtchell watch, and start reporting the truth and force these guys to do something, ya that's it that just might work.
Community radio and this is what we get!!! I will tell you right now, I did support KPFZ with money, I know longer will, they will get no more support from me. I am telling all people reading this page, and all others I run into it is time to pull the funding, it is clear that this is Andy and Tim's radio station not the communities.
Garzoli might have taken a demotion over the helicopter deal, but an Internal Affairs investigation can still be conducted. The reason is simple, if Garzoli took a demotion for operating the helicopter against policy than he can't be punished. But if during the IA, and after his demotion, it is found that he modified the DEA contract without Mitchell's consent, he can be disciplined for falsifying documents, misuse of authority and misconduct. To take the self demotion, he would have to admit to ALL of the misconduct, not just operating the helicopter without approval.
poster 5:42 The reason that Mitchell is in office and the DA won't do anything about it is because everybody has dirt on everybody and Mitchell's Mob will get you if you even peep. Mitchell's mob is now a disorganized crime organization and will unravel with enough pressure. We need to keep it on and not let up.
Mitchell and a whole lot of other people can, and most likely will be brought up on criminal charges and this forum can be instrumental in that justice. Mitchell needs to have his power taken away from him and not have the ability to graduate to another situation or ANY position in government where he is in control again.
Mitchell does NOT act alone and any one who was an accomplice that doesn’t come forward needs to go down with Mitchell. Every cell of the corruption needs to be removed.
As for calling in the FBI the data needs to be gathered. The FBI, after all, has budget restraints too, and Lake county is distant from them. Agencies like the FBI pick the lower fruit from the tree first to make sure their numbers insure the funding they need each year, so the more data collected and verified by this forum the better.
We can not expect the FBI to come in like a magic pill. Lake county has been sick for a very long time.
We need to be empowered and all follow the Code of Ethics of Law enforcement by being law abiding citizens with a watchful eye insuring transparency and having the courage to report illegal activities on BOTH sides of the law. Individual efforts create cumulative results. It’s the honor system and it works.
Mitchell and a whole lot of other people can, and most likely will be brought up on criminal charges and this forum can be instrumental in that justice. Mitchell needs to have his power taken away from him and not have the ability to graduate to another situation or ANY position in government where he is in control again.
Mitchell does NOT act alone and any one who was an accomplice that doesn’t come forward needs to go down with Mitchell. Every cell of the corruption needs to be removed.
As for calling in the FBI the data needs to be gathered. The FBI, after all, has budget restraints too, and Lake county is distant from them. Agencies like the FBI pick the lower fruit from the tree first to make sure their numbers insure the funding they need each year, so the more data collected and verified by this forum the better.
We can not expect the FBI to come in like a magic pill. Lake county has been sick for a very long time.
We need to be empowered and all follow the Code of Ethics of Law enforcement by being law abiding citizens with a watchful eye insuring transparency and having the courage to report illegal activities on BOTH sides of the law. Individual efforts create cumulative results. It’s the honor system and it works.
KPFZ 88.1 FM -studio guest is Milan Hopkins, M.D. to discuss medical ...
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By the way do have the Garzoli kgo line, could not get it posted today sorry for the delay will post tomorrow mid to late afternoon, I tell you it is amazing to listen to this guy, the radio host just prys so much information out of this guy amazing....Sorry for the delay, just trying to set up the best way for all of you to get it.
The audio is about 6 minues and we are separating it out from the hour long total recording. I mean he actually says he and his boss don't agree, and did not want to mention the helo accident, but the host just punks him big time. If it can get posted tonight, will make it happen if not tomorrow.
Nice try but no cigar you are not getting off the hook that easy dear friend. Macedo it is. We know it you know it. Everyone knows it. You got scared when you let the cat out of the bag, and now your trying cover up your mistake. So sad to see such weak attempts.
By the way the audio is being posted today, and you will have access to the file. Sorry about the delay, but it on its way.
By the way the audio is being posted today, and you will have access to the file. Sorry about the delay, but it on its way.
You people make me laugh the entertainment factor with all the poster guesses, there are non LE who back LE and we know the lingo and speak it, so confuse yourselves with naming names it only mkaes for more humor
Everyone will be able to get a copy of the audio file, that is why it is taking a bit of time, we are setting it up so all can have access to it, download it etc. etc....We are just making sure we post without tracking abilities and setting up the right location to make it available to all.
I suspect Mitchell got to Macedo and read him the riot act, told him to back himself out of it, and reamed him a good one.
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I attended the public meeting on illegal marijuana production in the national forests and public lands. Four agencies gave presentations with slide shows. The first presenter was Matt Knudsen from BLM.. He commented that it only took him 10 minutes to come up with enough pictures for his presentation. Matt, did it only take you 10 minutes to make the slide show for the other 3 agencies who presented slides as if they were their own? Did you think that we in the audience wouldn’t notice they were the same photos over and over. You didn’t even change the angles of view on most of them.
I want to be clear I am strongly against illegal growing on Fed lands, and yes I grow legal medical marijuana . I am also against government propaganda. You sir are a liar. Your supposition that there is enough PVC to stretch from Oregon to the Mexican boarder is ridiculous. Your slide show certainly didn’t show any such representation. Your calculations of how much water it takes is also way off. Your 3-5 gallons per plant a day would kill any marijuana plant. Do the math if you use 3-5 million gallons per garden every lake in northern California would be dry. If you simply looked at their growing pattern and intake requirements you would have know how silly your calculations are. By the way Matt here is a growing tip for you, a little stress between waterings makes a stronger plant.
You showed one bag of illegal pesticide and make it sound like you have an EPA emergency, its illegal and its wrong, but lying about the facts is not the way to go about this, it make you look real bad and is not the way to go about doing this. You also said because the DEA gives you money you have to take out the plants instead of the garbage as it is their policy. It is up to you to disagree with them and take a stand. When you chop down a marijuana plant it is done, it can’t be replanted it can’t be harvested, it is worthless. There is no sense in spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in man hours and resources gathering, and helicoptering/trucking and digging holes at the landfill to bury them. And by the way it is excellent compost and left to compost in the forest it is not some big environmental hazard of the future like you stated. It is the cleanest part of the landfill if you do bring it there which you do not have to do. Use your time and energy to remove the garbage not the worthless pot plants you just cut down.
Matt you are way to young to remember the government propaganda films like “Refer madness”, “Marijuana the devils weed”, or “assassin of youth”. You should watch them it is the same kind of scare tactics you are involved in today. Again Matt we agree that illegal grows are not to be tolerated, but you are clueless in your facts, and your approach leaves much to be desired.
I attended the public meeting on illegal marijuana production in the national forests and public lands. Four agencies gave presentations with slide shows. The first presenter was Matt Knudsen from BLM.. He commented that it only took him 10 minutes to come up with enough pictures for his presentation. Matt, did it only take you 10 minutes to make the slide show for the other 3 agencies who presented slides as if they were their own? Did you think that we in the audience wouldn’t notice they were the same photos over and over. You didn’t even change the angles of view on most of them.
I want to be clear I am strongly against illegal growing on Fed lands, and yes I grow legal medical marijuana . I am also against government propaganda. You sir are a liar. Your supposition that there is enough PVC to stretch from Oregon to the Mexican boarder is ridiculous. Your slide show certainly didn’t show any such representation. Your calculations of how much water it takes is also way off. Your 3-5 gallons per plant a day would kill any marijuana plant. Do the math if you use 3-5 million gallons per garden every lake in northern California would be dry. If you simply looked at their growing pattern and intake requirements you would have know how silly your calculations are. By the way Matt here is a growing tip for you, a little stress between waterings makes a stronger plant.
You showed one bag of illegal pesticide and make it sound like you have an EPA emergency, its illegal and its wrong, but lying about the facts is not the way to go about this, it make you look real bad and is not the way to go about doing this. You also said because the DEA gives you money you have to take out the plants instead of the garbage as it is their policy. It is up to you to disagree with them and take a stand. When you chop down a marijuana plant it is done, it can’t be replanted it can’t be harvested, it is worthless. There is no sense in spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in man hours and resources gathering, and helicoptering/trucking and digging holes at the landfill to bury them. And by the way it is excellent compost and left to compost in the forest it is not some big environmental hazard of the future like you stated. It is the cleanest part of the landfill if you do bring it there which you do not have to do. Use your time and energy to remove the garbage not the worthless pot plants you just cut down.
Matt you are way to young to remember the government propaganda films like “Refer madness”, “Marijuana the devils weed”, or “assassin of youth”. You should watch them it is the same kind of scare tactics you are involved in today. Again Matt we agree that illegal grows are not to be tolerated, but you are clueless in your facts, and your approach leaves much to be desired.
A recent European study shows it may prevent Alzheimer, imagine that Matt, short term memory loss can cure long term memory loss. Currently Kaiser is requesting officially that the government establish clinical trials of Marijuana for the study of its properties to cure or help anti-emetic, anti glaucoma, as well as several other medical conditions, including the treatment of AIDS. Not only that but it is already established that it assist greatly in Epilepsy and Parkinson’s just ask Michael J. Fox, who has Parkinson’s and credits his amazing recovery to Marijuana. It also is known to be a pain reliever, of course we knew that already.
Stanford university is also recommending clinical trials for Marijuana. And in the biggest blow yet to the anti-pot paranoia groups, the AMA on November 11th requested that the federal government review Marijuana restrictions, reclassify it and make it easier to conduct clinical trials. Hmmmm wonder why they won’t, couldn’t have anything to do with money could it. Oh by the way in the biggest cover-up in recent memory the government has taken out patents on the production of hash, THC oil, and plant processing. Gee Matt I wonder why they have done that, couldn’t be to protect their monetary interests in the future could it? By the way Matt you can look that up by going to the patent office web page and do the search.
Stanford university is also recommending clinical trials for Marijuana. And in the biggest blow yet to the anti-pot paranoia groups, the AMA on November 11th requested that the federal government review Marijuana restrictions, reclassify it and make it easier to conduct clinical trials. Hmmmm wonder why they won’t, couldn’t have anything to do with money could it. Oh by the way in the biggest cover-up in recent memory the government has taken out patents on the production of hash, THC oil, and plant processing. Gee Matt I wonder why they have done that, couldn’t be to protect their monetary interests in the future could it? By the way Matt you can look that up by going to the patent office web page and do the search.
Marijuana is a class one drug according to the FEDS worse then class two crank and coke. Doesn’t make much sense does it Matt. Come on fella’s its not the pot smokers who are paranoid here, is it? We need our local government to be accountable for the money they spend. What’s wrong with our BOS. Their giving the FEDS county money to clean up the federal lands. Why give you and them money when they have shown they can’t deal with the problem correctly. Keep our money to solve county problems. Stop believing the propaganda.
Hey Macedo nice try we already exposed that and any future posts of denial will be met with the same answer. you blew it and you know it. Better be more careful next time.
Hmmmmmmmmm is this the same Matt Knudsen who went on someone's private property without a search warrant? Matt, next time make sure you are not seen, this one is going to come back to bite you in the ass.
The BOS better re-think their ignorant vote and take back the money they just voted to give to the FEDS.
Don't these guys realize we have eyes everywhere in this county, inside outside everywhere, we are taking the county back and giving it to the citizens.
ATTENTION ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS OF LAKE COUNTY THIS SITE AND THE COALITION FOR JUSTICE.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
We choose very carefully the location of this file, and the integrity of the security to those posting via this system. You will not track us through this file, do not even attempt it. If anyone has any issues with playing the file please post to us asap. We have tested it several times and it appears to be working well. The placement location of the file can be a bit slow in up loading but should work fine for you. This file as well can be downloaded to your own computers, we want everyone to get this file out and into the system. Get it to the supervisors, and to any and all concerned parties. Proof positive that after being trained on the taxpayers dime, Garzoli was taking off, and leaving the county hanging.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
We choose very carefully the location of this file, and the integrity of the security to those posting via this system. You will not track us through this file, do not even attempt it. If anyone has any issues with playing the file please post to us asap. We have tested it several times and it appears to be working well. The placement location of the file can be a bit slow in up loading but should work fine for you. This file as well can be downloaded to your own computers, we want everyone to get this file out and into the system. Get it to the supervisors, and to any and all concerned parties. Proof positive that after being trained on the taxpayers dime, Garzoli was taking off, and leaving the county hanging.
I don't smoke MJ and I have no intentions of doing it. I don’t break the law, I obey it.
I would, however, consider smoking marijuana if my oncologist suggested it and wrote a prescription for it. If the pain of my cancer was too great and I needed morphine I would most likely take that too under a doctors instruction.
I would suggest FIRST the FEDS in Lake county close down the watering holes where the Mitchell Mob drinks and that might make our community safer. At one time in the early 80’s the statistics were that about 20% of the drivers on the Lake county roads had high alcohol levels in their blood, enough to impair judgment. The cops I know drink themselves stupid after work. I would prefer they smoked dope.
Then there are the tobacco smokers that should be clamped down on. Maybe the Feds should go to the tobacco states and shut them down as cigarettes cost all of us millions of dollars each day.
Legalize marijuana and control it like any other crop.
I know people who smoke cigarettes are pretty much self centered and addicted and so are the alcoholics that I know. Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and taxable and regulated and why not marijuana?
If marijuana has shown to have positive effects with the treatment of cancer and other diseases, let's put our cards on the table. Cancer pharmaceuticals make $200 Billion dollars a year and without success for most cancers, in fact the chemo and radiation that are standard treatment are though in Europe to be 66% the CAUSE of cancer and its advancement.
Cigarettes and booze don’t cure any disease that I have heard of.
Why don't we put some money in to the study of marijuana and be honest about it? In any event I do not ever think I would smoke marijuana, but there are folks who do and it apparently has a use. Not just to keep the Feds in a job or the corrupt of the LCSO in sitting high cotton.
I would, however, consider smoking marijuana if my oncologist suggested it and wrote a prescription for it. If the pain of my cancer was too great and I needed morphine I would most likely take that too under a doctors instruction.
I would suggest FIRST the FEDS in Lake county close down the watering holes where the Mitchell Mob drinks and that might make our community safer. At one time in the early 80’s the statistics were that about 20% of the drivers on the Lake county roads had high alcohol levels in their blood, enough to impair judgment. The cops I know drink themselves stupid after work. I would prefer they smoked dope.
Then there are the tobacco smokers that should be clamped down on. Maybe the Feds should go to the tobacco states and shut them down as cigarettes cost all of us millions of dollars each day.
Legalize marijuana and control it like any other crop.
I know people who smoke cigarettes are pretty much self centered and addicted and so are the alcoholics that I know. Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and taxable and regulated and why not marijuana?
If marijuana has shown to have positive effects with the treatment of cancer and other diseases, let's put our cards on the table. Cancer pharmaceuticals make $200 Billion dollars a year and without success for most cancers, in fact the chemo and radiation that are standard treatment are though in Europe to be 66% the CAUSE of cancer and its advancement.
Cigarettes and booze don’t cure any disease that I have heard of.
Why don't we put some money in to the study of marijuana and be honest about it? In any event I do not ever think I would smoke marijuana, but there are folks who do and it apparently has a use. Not just to keep the Feds in a job or the corrupt of the LCSO in sitting high cotton.
We will be re-posting the Garzoli file comment several times on the page to ensure all individuals see it and know how to access it. So excuse the multiple postings throughout the day if the thread moves to far up the page.
ATTENTION ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS OF LAKE COUNTY THIS SITE AND THE COALITION FOR JUSTICE.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
We choose very carefully the location of this file, and the integrity of the security to those posting via this system. You will not track us through this file, do not even attempt it. If anyone has any issues with playing the file please post to us asap. We have tested it several times and it appears to be working well. The placement location of the file can be a bit slow in up loading but should work fine for you. This file as well can be downloaded to your own computers, we want everyone to get this file out and into the system. Get it to the supervisors, and to any and all concerned parties. Proof positive that after being trained on the taxpayers dime, Garzoli was taking off, and leaving the county hanging.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
We choose very carefully the location of this file, and the integrity of the security to those posting via this system. You will not track us through this file, do not even attempt it. If anyone has any issues with playing the file please post to us asap. We have tested it several times and it appears to be working well. The placement location of the file can be a bit slow in up loading but should work fine for you. This file as well can be downloaded to your own computers, we want everyone to get this file out and into the system. Get it to the supervisors, and to any and all concerned parties. Proof positive that after being trained on the taxpayers dime, Garzoli was taking off, and leaving the county hanging.
Funny, I never heard Garzoli say he was going to leave the county hanging after he was trained. All I heard is a guy looking for a new career now that he and his boss are having issues.
great post 2:27 very well written and spot on excellent. That finally should quiet down the pot paranoia people out there LE and corruption supporters combined. It takes intelligence to sort through these issues not the emotional triads of the paranoid ignorance. Great post.
Ha ha 2:36 don't let the powers in place now play you so badly, my goodness get a clue and stand up for yourself, you poor thing, can you think for yourself at all. Just cause he was in a disagreement with his boss. Ya thats the only reason, not that he was illegally flying the copter, not that he freakin crashed it, no none of those reasons. Wow you are gullible.
Geeeeee what are he and his boss having issues about, oh that's right the cover-up ain't going to well eh. ummmm crashed the copter eh? Demoted eh, hmmm ya just a little small disagreement with his boss.
2:40 What you are talking about are the issues he is having with his boss, among several others. I am just saying that he never admitted to using the flying lessons to further his career and then leave. Now we all know that's what he probably intented to do, it just wasn't mentioned on the tape. What has any of this got to do with me standing up for myself. I don't even like Garzoli, but that's not the point.
Well then nobody knows what your point is, he also didn't say he crashed the helicopter, he said there was an incident where it was damaged or crashed. Damaged or crashed, how about this "I crashed the helicopter flying illegally and damaged it on the taxpayers dime, and now I need to get the hell out of town. Let's not play pitty pat here, lets just call it what it was. There is other information coming out that indicates he had been working on a personnel business venture which would happen as a result of him getting his license, that will come out later. But for now lets call it what it is and not play word games. Glad however that you don't think much of Garzoli, you join the majority of citizens in that view.
post 2:48 the reason you got hammered by them, is it sounded like you were going down the old "party" line, like all of the other corruption supporters, so if your not, perhaps it was just a bit of a verbal miss-step.
Well since the 2:26 post has apparently been deleted I guess we'll never have the chance to figure that out for oursekves.
wrong post 3:21 that is post 2:36 you are confused it was not post 2:26 go back up the page and you will see a couple of posts at 2:36. Sorry you missed that but now you should be clear. The post wasn't deleted, sorry for your confusion.
I like the "LOW LEVEL MANAGEMENT"! Give me a break, he was management with only ONE more rank to the top of the chain.
ATTENTION ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS OF LAKE COUNTY THIS SITE AND THE COALITION FOR JUSTICE. This is a re-post the thread concerning this is ongoing above this post, we are re-posting several times today to ensure everyone gets access to the file.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
GARZOLI AUDIO FILE FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE
This file is located on the right hand side of this page scroll under the big red button to where you see "garzoli career change" click on that link it will open the audio file for you. This file is available due to the diligent and sometimes risky work our citizens group is undertaking. To those that assisted us in obtaining this file we and the citizens of this county thank you.
What you are hearing is a recording of Garzoi who one Sunday back when the helo incident was shall we say heating up, and the crash had already occurred. He is calling in to the KGO career coach on the radio asking about making a career change. As you will hear the talk host grinds this guy up. He tries not to give much info but the host is relentless and the truth comes out, the fighting between Garzoli and Mitchell. etc.
To those that would question the integrity and will of our citizens group think again. We have told you over and over that we will not stop, the change will happen, and again believe us the results of the past few weeks, including the disability issues, the Garzoli issues, the commission on judicial performance concerning judge Martin and judge Mann are just the beginning of a long and continued effort to bring down the system and corruption in our local LE and DA offices.
Ya i agree on the Low Level Management comment, he was hedging and flopping all over the place. Did you notice how the talk show host was laughing at the end of the program, jezzzzzzzzz he is thinking now I am getting corrupt cops asking me for advice.
Now I ask you local LE corruption supporters. Do You Believe!!! Can I get an amen, and an I believe, come on, Mercado I want you to lead the blessing today, and I want a strong and faithful I believe in Lovelace!! Great job guys whoever you are?????????
Hey wasn't there just a comment on Hopkins and KPFZ our local non-community radio station, you know the Tim and Andy show. Shouldn't they download this audio play it and have an open community discussion on this. Oh no wait a minute, we could not do that it would be community radio then.
Please not the Garzoli career change audio file is posted below the red dot on the right hand side of the this page, just scroll down and you will see The Garzoli career change link, click on it and it will open the file for your listening pleasure, information concerning this file is posted above in several comments.
Comment to a some people if you work in our local LE/DA or government positions and you wish to post information to us and you may not feel safe posting on the public page, please feel free to post to the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com account. To those good LE folks who have we want to thank you and ask you to keep the faith, as you can see the self inflicted torture the corruption group is heaping on themselves will only serve to bring their fall down harder. We know it is difficult working in that kind of environment, it will change and the good folks will be able to rise to the top. To Mitchell and Hopkins, we ask you again to please do what is right and step down from your ivory towers, the time has come, make your exit professional, and your removal will be smooth, if not the pain will continue.
Ah the old foot in mouth disease, correction of that ailment is difficult sometimes resulting in a condition called liealot. Tjough to cure I hear.
Just a thought Maybe someone in higher management will allow Mr.G to speed up his changing employment, not the smartest thing splling your ennerds on the airways
I don't know what audio file you people were listening to, but he never said, "Low level management". He said "management level". Your inability to get even that small fact right, when it's right in front of your face is confirmation that you're reaching here. This audio file proves absolutely nothing that isn't already public record, less in fact.
Maybe lovelace should have edited it...to make Mr.G look worse than he already does...hummmm Just like pappa Mitchell did to Rivero but alas lovelace has nothing to hide and pappa Mitch does..the proof is in the pudding or should I say...On tape!
Oh & Honey I'm home, hope the kiddies behaved while I was gone.
Oh & Honey I'm home, hope the kiddies behaved while I was gone.
December 14, 2009 7:12 PM To go from lieutenant to Sargent all in one day? The day Garazoli was looking for a new job he was Low Level Management. That's why he was looking for a job. That should look good on his resume. What a tragedy first Russ and then Dave. Is Rod taking applications?
Garzoli said, "I have a management level position where I was dealing directly with the department head (I.E. Mitchell). He and I (Mitchell) had a differing of understanding. I was a lower ranking person and ended up on the shorter end of the deal."
If Mitchell knew of the helicopter stuff, why would you have a "difference of opinion?" Is there any more audio tapes to come on this interview?
If Mitchell knew of the helicopter stuff, why would you have a "difference of opinion?" Is there any more audio tapes to come on this interview?
So many deputies in the past two years have gone down; Perdock, Navarro, Garzoli, Beland, Morshed and I bet there were even more. What kind of management is Mitchell running? This might be why NOBODY in management was never in the military. Maybe Mitchell and his GOB's need to read the Army NCO manual or attend some officer training courses (all of the branches give them all the time).
Forget the marijuana issue, no cop will ever side on the pro-marijuana side. Until the law changes, just try focusing on how to clean this mess. We have two of Mitchell's managers involved in serious situations that should have been handled differently. One Captain pending some time of action, one lieutenant demoted, one sergeant forced into retirement and two demoted. In case you don't know, the department may have 186 employees, but there are only 23 deputies.
Forget the marijuana issue, no cop will ever side on the pro-marijuana side. Until the law changes, just try focusing on how to clean this mess. We have two of Mitchell's managers involved in serious situations that should have been handled differently. One Captain pending some time of action, one lieutenant demoted, one sergeant forced into retirement and two demoted. In case you don't know, the department may have 186 employees, but there are only 23 deputies.
There is no more audio tapes from the radio broadcast. They took it off air at the end of the recording.
What an excellent post 8:14, hit the nail on the head, it is the premise and position this citizens group has taken all along. No matter how you spin it, this is a result of poor and misguided leadership. The GOB network is built on nearly a generation of time, the network has had no oversight, and has grown into a corruption filled system. Mitchell and in many instances the DA are responsible for this condition. There are good cops in the system it needs to change for them, it needs to change for the community, and the leadership is caught in paridigms of ill conceived poorly managed understandings about how LE enforcement should operate and communicate with the citizens. It is sad to see, but there is hope and it can change.
This is to Dave Garzoli, It has been over 8 hours since your job search was aired. There have been only two of your buddy's that have tried to come to your aid. Personally I think it was only one trying to be two. I don't think I would rely on the Officer Down call for awhile. They say you should treat people well on the way up. You never know who you will meet on the way down.
186 employees and 23 deputies, I assume there has been some justification for this equation, it would be nice to think that in the past the BOS has conducted hard and extensive auditing. Well of course that has not been the case, and as a result the BOS can no longer throw their hands in the air and claim its not their area.
What's up with this....
"There is no more audio tapes from the radio broadcast. They took it off air at the end of the recording."
"There is no more audio tapes from the radio broadcast. They took it off air at the end of the recording."
You misunderstand, that was the end of the radio broadcast, they took their conversation off the air as his time slot was finished. That's all no big deal someone had asked if there was more, but there isn't.
Dave doesn't need anyone to come to his aid. He's just fine without it. The tape proves nothing, it doesn't even add flavor to the argument. There was a difference in opinions as to what the "agreement" was. If anything, that comment supports the Sheriff's position that he was aware Dave was logging hours, nothing more. If Dave did more that that, and believed it was approved, that would account for the difference in opinions. So what you're got is absolutely nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Just like the rest of your allegations. Heavy on the allegation, light on the supporting facts.
Why did Mitchell contract with a Helicopter flight school? .Rodney Mitchell said this is the first year the department contracted
with Cutting Edge Helicopters, a Sacramento flight school.at Wednesday, July 15,
with Cutting Edge Helicopters, a Sacramento flight school.at Wednesday, July 15,
Post 1024 you have what we call in the citizen business "selective memory" you have a habit of recounting only what you want and reading into a posting only what you want. You then as a matter of course always try to destroy every single bit evidence, you would think Garzoli and Mitchell just had a small minor disagreement no big deal, carry on. Come on man he got hammered by Mitchell he dropped him hard. Mitchell had to do something, it ensured speaking of smoke and mirrors that Mitchell was innocent. You don't have a full grasp on the issues, were talking about monies for flights from Sac or Ukiah, were talking alot of money spent, were talking about a cop calling a career show to find a new job, did you forget that even if Garzoli was authorized to take the flights all the times he did, it would only be to establish a pilot here in Lake County, not to train his ass and let him run off to some other occupation> Come on man you really are looking fake and one sided, by all of your other posts it would appear that everything is just a minor situation no big deal move along folks. We don't by it, you what I think your either a bad cop or a bad cop supporter, I think your a phony, i think no matter what evidence you get presented with your going to go into your denial mode, your losing credibility by the posting. Come clean you know there are huge problems, you know Mitchell and Hopkins totally mismanaged their respective departments, why don't come clean and show some class.
Contracting a Helicopter from a flight school might get you a flight instructor for a pilot? A regular pilot would not be qualified to give flight instruction.
You know what's real funny I would just like to know who signed the checks, we have been asking this for months, lake co. news has been asking, we keep asking who signed the checks, we get no answer. Why did Rodney make a phone call to the guy who used to own the helicopter, another question that that goes unanswered. Hey Garzoli what about the conversation you had when you talked about the work flying heavy equipment and supplies to high rise buildings. Hmmmmmmmm free flight lessons, then I go for the big bucks. Nice. To bad it "crashed" before it could take flight.
I listened to the tape several times and I cringed at the end of the program when the Garzie was asked if he would stick around as the announcer was going to help him find some answer...OH GOOD LORD guess he didn't realize the guy was just using him for a good story
He did find it a bit funny as was already posted, at the end of the conversation he was laughing a bit, and I suspect he is thinking jezzzzzzzz now I have to give advice to dirty cops. For anyone not following the blog today the Garzoli career audio is posted here on the site, underneath the big red button just scroll down until you find the garzoli career change link and click on it, your audio will play for you, you can also download the file, and save it to your computer or send it to someone else. The download site we posted at is a secure sight and no one will be tracked on the download,
It looks like for those of you out there that are still simply posting to rag on the blogsite, i.e. you post nothing substance, but choose to disregard any of the open discussions, any of the facts any form of discussion aside from saying hey this site is crummy and you guys are bad and nothing is wrong. YOu must try to post in some form of further reaching manner to expand the discussion. To simply post with the idea that you just don't like this blog or anyone who supports it is silly and a waste of space. Even this terrible site, credits continually the good LE in the department, but you who do this type of posting can find no positives in what is happening to change this county. Have you no morals no insight no understanding of the need for change, if you do not and that is all you can add to the work being done here, then go post somewhere facts don't count investigations of the situation in our county don't count, and you can simply voice your opinion about how wonderful everything is in lake county.
Evidence and facts, speculation and hearsay. Why do we lie?
Lying; to better oneself, power, of course greed and it = money!
Money is evil, and morales are no-existent!
I will tell the truth, that is all I could do! Why not? It is the truth, and I am scared, not for me but for all the lives that will be affected. Why did she/he not tell me the truth? I would not be writing this now, and not out of work. It's a big story! Many of you will wonder? and ask does this happen to me? I know there are others. It affects us all! 100 Billion dollars a year to lying, cheating, just for MORE money!!! I am nauseous!
Lying; to better oneself, power, of course greed and it = money!
Money is evil, and morales are no-existent!
I will tell the truth, that is all I could do! Why not? It is the truth, and I am scared, not for me but for all the lives that will be affected. Why did she/he not tell me the truth? I would not be writing this now, and not out of work. It's a big story! Many of you will wonder? and ask does this happen to me? I know there are others. It affects us all! 100 Billion dollars a year to lying, cheating, just for MORE money!!! I am nauseous!
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
No one here has become a laughing stock. The SO is full of common criminals who twist the law and contribute to chaos in our homes. It has gone on for a very long time unchecked Dutra, Drew, LaFavre, and Henderson all march to the corrupt band of idiots and have contributed to grand theft. I had experiences with them that proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt and my only crime was trusting these people. My story along with others will expose Mitchell, Perdock and others in the courts who work to destroy the very community that provides a paycheck for them. They are without conscience and for you to say that this blog is a laughingstock just shows your compliance to the corrupt. I have never broken a law and I have been a taxpaying citizen and volunteered and served the community, and if you think that is laughable, when the very people I paid to protect me have destroyed lives then you are indeed one sick twisted little creep.
Well there we go thats all the citizens were asking for. "I am not saying everything is hunky-dory in Lake County". It took a while now if we can focus your comments on the specifics of what you think is wrong and how to correct the situation, then we are making progress. To use Goebbels as a comparative analysis is small minded at best, but we can let that slide for now. On the contrary we have become the voice for many people concerned and understanding of the issues in this county. your desire of this site becomming a laughing stock is really what you are saying, you do not like the success of this blog, and really it is concerning because of the critical thinking and action we are taking. You must remember my friend, you sir are not running this site, you can throw all the stones you want. But we are doing the hard work, we are doing the investigations, we are not willing to sit back and watch the continued downfall of our county. What efforts have you put out since you agree there are problems with the county. So lets do this lets hear from you as to what you think is the things that are wrong and what you think the solutions, we have already outlined the remedies and solutions we will put in place, to removal of Hopkins and Mitchell, to a transparent citizens group and many other ideas for improvement. So since you like doing nothing but complaining, step up to the plate what are the problems and what are your ideas for solutions, we can you know if they are well thought out and viable incorporate those into our over all concepts of needs to be done. But we can not incorporate you guys suck, and I don't like you into any solutions. Nothing is perfect in application or actions, you may not like us, but we are working very hard toward stopping the corruption in our county what are you willing to do.
Post 9:29 great post, you hit it perfect, and there you have it a solid citizen living in this county and tired of the corruption and leadership of this group of out of control LE's, hurting not only the good citizens of this county but the good cops in the LE. Do not try to diminish us with your words as they the ring hollow. Take action make a difference, and we will help not only that good citizen who posted above but the county as a whole. Thank you again for that post it was right on the mark.
Perdock is on an Administrative Leave, I had an operation once and I thought I would only be out for six weeks but found out that My situation I had to extend it by double then triple, eventually I was able to resume working
9:44 Perdock's "injury" must be quite serious as he has been off a month longer than you. Perdock's attorney,
Alison Wilkinson of San Rafael, writes, "On or around June 16, 2009,
Russell Perdock, a Captain with the Lake County Sheriff's Department,
went on approved leave status after visiting a medical professional who
indicated that he had a medical condition that required an absence from
employment for 45 days." Get "well" soon Russ It looks bad for the rest of us.
Alison Wilkinson of San Rafael, writes, "On or around June 16, 2009,
Russell Perdock, a Captain with the Lake County Sheriff's Department,
went on approved leave status after visiting a medical professional who
indicated that he had a medical condition that required an absence from
employment for 45 days." Get "well" soon Russ It looks bad for the rest of us.
You can be sure as with the rest of the people Rodney wants out of the way, he will end up on permanent leave, and it will be on the taxpayers dime. Watch in the next few weeks or months he will never come back off leave, they wait for the heat to die down, and then slip him off into never never land, that's you never never get to talk to him again land. Mark my words on that.
If he ever applies for another job he better hope they don't Google his name. He can thank Mitchell for that.
An injury occurring while on Admin. leave would not then stop the Admin leave pay, the injury would be a different non-connection. I think maybe people might be missing the mark here. He, some would suspect is on leave due to shall wed say stress, in other words they put him on leave for "mental" reasons, in other words, he or they would be claiming mental stress, he is going crazy, etc etc. This is the most typical abuse of the system in that manner and in a situation such as this. It is done because it is easy to claim and there is no way of telling when there is a "cure"...So you can bet this is the situation, the BOS approved or where aware and had no issues with it, and I am sure they would tell you if they could that the sheriffs dept spun them a nice tail about how he is in just such bad shape, and can't carry on the duties of his job due to the stress of the trial etc. Meanwhile Dinius losing his job, under trial stress for 2 years etc. gets nothing. Oh and by the way a women is dead and she was hit by a speeding boat, but you know what no harm done accidents do happen.
I agree that might be what they want us to believe.I think Mitchell and Hopkins agreed that they couldn't afford to have Perdock and possibly Garzoli On board for the elections. Thanks to the internet those three will be "handcuffed" together for ever. Some of the public may forget but the internet never will.
Agreed post 4:28 either they have him on Admin/medical/mental under a bogus claim to get rid of him, or they simply are going to leave him on admin leave as they call it and hope everyone forgets. Time will tell/
by the way for those that have not been on the site we have posted the garzoli link on the left hand side of this page down below the red button, and it is quite the recording take a listen to it if you want to hear a guy get grilled by the radio host and listen to Garzoli spill the beans on radio.
by the way for those that have not been on the site we have posted the garzoli link on the left hand side of this page down below the red button, and it is quite the recording take a listen to it if you want to hear a guy get grilled by the radio host and listen to Garzoli spill the beans on radio.
Ouestion: If Perdock is in fact out on stress due to the trial why would we, the taxpayers, be forced to pay his wages? I remember clearly that he was off duty at the time of the terrible collision so his injuries if you will are not work related.
BACK to the first post 9-11-09, and in regards to it; I read all these posts and nothing has changed. I wondered why? However it happens to be the same evening I found out the truth. I have moved the damn paperwork forward in my case. I follow up, call , and call again, and call again!!!! I am a machine! I am one hell of a documentor. I am sick of liars! I hope she will repent! I pray for it! I am sorry in advance to all of you who relied on the services and am sorry you will have to go elsewhere. A long distance, and the State, in my opinion is responsible. I too am a consumer, and I am honest! A few days more, I wait!
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
In other words, this blog will continue to stifle an actual discussion about what is wrong in this county by removing any posts which are not in lock-step with the talking points approved of by the moderator. Was it Noam Chomskey who said: "Joseph Goebbels was in favor of free speech - for people he agreed with." I am not saying everything is hunky-dory here in Lake County. There are clearly some problems at the SO. But the sort of gossip and innuendo which comprises the majority of the posts here is not advancing the conversation, as far as I can tell. Whatever chance you have of persuading persons who are undecided or uneducated about the problems with the SO is seriously compromised by the way this blog is run. You have become a laughingstock, because the nonsense which is posted here cannot be taken seriously by any person with any claim to critical thinking skills.
There are about 40 deputies (but 26 is about right if you remove management and sergeants). There are a total of 186 employees including the deputies, correctional officers and civilian employees. Which brings up another question. Why is there 4 captains (5 counting the CO's), and a bunch of sergeants, but only one lieutenant and that is Gary Hall? Garzoli was kicked down several months ago. I heard it is because Mitchell couldn't even get 1 other sergeant that wants to work for his management.
Come on Mitchell or any LCSO, if Rivero was a lire in the racism case, than why is he not on Admin Leave? If Lande also lied about racism, why isn't Santa Cruz doing an IA on him for filing a false police report? Now you can't do anything to Ringen or the lawyer, but you could have at least said the EEOC was done and cleared his deputies without saying a name. You wouldn't even state the status of the EEOC complaint. That's because it is still ongoing!
Come on Mitchell or any LCSO, if Rivero was a lire in the racism case, than why is he not on Admin Leave? If Lande also lied about racism, why isn't Santa Cruz doing an IA on him for filing a false police report? Now you can't do anything to Ringen or the lawyer, but you could have at least said the EEOC was done and cleared his deputies without saying a name. You wouldn't even state the status of the EEOC complaint. That's because it is still ongoing!
I see the trolls are back...so silly and on taxpayer time. When you do stuff like the above posts, we all see how assinine you are!
hummmmmm slow night at the jail and it is raining so everyone is hiding out at the sub stations. You laugh and think you are funny but you are laughingstocks of your own making. There are so many people who never post but read this blog everyday/night and when you do stuff like this everyone knows it is the LE who just have nothing better to do than harrass and annoy, much like you do while on patrol. Police, police thy self.
Oh, you are messing with the blog, huh? Seems that this blog has hit a nerve and you are on the attack. Makes it all the more important for the citizens to see how crappy the corrupt in Mitchell's mob is.
Ouestion: If Perdock is in fact out on stress due to the trial why would we, the taxpayers, be forced to pay his wages? I remember clearly that he was off duty at the time of the terrible collision so his injuries if you will are not work related.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 15, 2009 6:44 PM
I wouldn't put it past someone to drop a dime on him.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : December 15, 2009 6:44 PM
I wouldn't put it past someone to drop a dime on him.
In other words you are so afraid of this blog that you try to sabatoge it. Isn't that right Rodney Mithcell?
Yes the trolls came back last night, we have done a page bump, so we hate to tell them cause they work so hard on it, but all those posts are removed to previous pages. We laugh so hard when they return to their old ways. Their frustration is amazing. They will write these long winded posts about how terrible this site is, which is of course the reason we know we are so successful!!!! And they don't get it. We have some news coming out later today as some updates on current situations, and will post those later in the day. If you havent been on the site recently, the Garzoli career audio is up and available on the left hand side of the page, scroll under the red button and you will see the link for Garzoli, it is a great listen, pass it on to your friends. By the to the mad bloggers it took 23 seconds to remove your posts hope it didn't take you any longer on the taxpayer dime to post them....he he he
Amazing! They act like 6 year olds. I thought only adults were to be hired as deputies..............
If you and your friend are being chased by a bear you don't have to out run the bear. You only have to outrun your friend. Mitchell is running out of friends. I wouldn't volunteer for that position.
Yes we are constantly amazed at the triteness of these people, in fact it is a bit scary that this level of ignorance exist in Our local LE, we know that the majority of their actions are based on a massive fear in them that we have created, that fear then turns into anger. Every time we put a post up of some facts or figures or an investigation underway, they literally start running around like little kids who got caught with their pants down. It is amusing in one way but quite disconcerting that these are the people representing the LE. The sad part is these people making the good ones in LE look so bad, it is a shame, that they soil the reputation of so many people in this way.
well it is fairly easy to see which LEO's are doing it. They are either sitting at the jail/sub station or on their I-phone etc, under-supervised on the county dime and playing games. It is the people working swings or graves. Why don't they see how bad they make their good LE co-workers look. Funny thing is they are doing our work here by showing the "curious" reader how bad LE uses harrassment to try and get to people.
I agree with post 12:51, of course the long term key if one were to assume that we cannot convince these guys to step down, even though it would be in their best interest is the election. We will be if it becomes necessary on a major campaign to get out the vote, and to get every citizen possible to go to the polls. We know we will have a distinct advantage in this aspect of things, because we already have all the merchants, 90 percent of the baby boomers, you will not see these guys getting any endorsments, and we have all those associated with the growers and collectives, we are also currently working with a number of groups who are indicating a willingness to provide funding to ensure the removal of these two leaders of corruption. Now it may be that Mitchell and Hopkins haven't gone to these ends yet, but as we look ahead we are already working that side of the equation. Also remember we are working on a lot more investigative situations that will be brought to bear in the same manner as the Disability issues of sentencing, on the Dinius trial, on Garzoli, etc etc. Which by the way have had a huge impact on perceptions in the citizens of the county concerning Rodney and Hopkins. Also as an update the request for investigation to the commission on Judical Performance in San Francisco.
Don't anyone out there think for moment that we are not going to continue to unravel and remove the ivory tower from these individuals. These people have wrongfully usurped the power from the citizens over the years and we will not stand for it anymore. For anyone underestimating us, we gladly welcome you to do so. One of our advantages is that very condition they display. You want to play ball with us you will lose, you want to join us we will welcome you. The choice is yours but I would not base your decision on the assumption that we are not a formidable opponent. That is a fair warning, you will get no more.
Don't anyone out there think for moment that we are not going to continue to unravel and remove the ivory tower from these individuals. These people have wrongfully usurped the power from the citizens over the years and we will not stand for it anymore. For anyone underestimating us, we gladly welcome you to do so. One of our advantages is that very condition they display. You want to play ball with us you will lose, you want to join us we will welcome you. The choice is yours but I would not base your decision on the assumption that we are not a formidable opponent. That is a fair warning, you will get no more.
As mentioned above the request for investigation on our local judges has been received by the commission in San Fransisco,it is being processed and we will update as to the direction of this investigation as time goes on.
What I do not understand is: When you give facts, and have supporting documents, and actually see the crime being committed, why does an investigation take so long? It's all there! Flip it over! It's got your name on it!
Garzoli flips a car and injures a passenger deputy for life. He then is involved in unauthorized helicopter training that ended in a crash. Perdock lies to investigators and than lies on the stand. Morshed also lies on the stand. Mitchell refuses to get another agency to the Dinius/Perdock crash. Chawcowski is accused of racism and is now back on the street. Beland is terminated only for his testimony. Ringen is forced to retire after reporting racism and Rivero reports racism that Mitchell said an investigation showed he lied, but nothing done. How can ANYONE believe that Mitchell knows what the hell he is doing. I've never seen such a mess in such a small little department. It makes you wonder if the deputies are this bad, I can't wait to hear what the jailer's are doing or did.
Post 4:16 it is amazing isn't it. Oh we got some jailer stories, haven't even touched that one yet. It is really something, we have more investigations going then you can imagine. We have actually had to prioritize the corruption incidents, just like in a triage situation. For example the reason we moved so quickly on the Disability sentencing situation is because we knew people were being hurt, It was not necessarily the most grievous of crimes per sey but none the less important to expose Mitchell and to help those disabled people.
I wonder if this level of denial that these guys display is being dictated by Rodney to the troops. You know, you can't be that dense, when presented such overwhelming facts, and situations that occurred. It is hard to imagine these guys can continue on this rant of denial. You would think the sheriffs dept is disneyland and the DA's office is magic mountain.
Nobody thought you were Mitchell, just thought you were part of his mob of idiots and cheeseballs.
The documents are coming in and so are the witnesses and there really isn't much sense in giving the corrupt a chance to counter or do harm to the people brave enough to come forward.
Once the contact is made on the blog and the allegations have merit the subject is off of this blog and on to the data pool.
There will be criminal charges made on Mitchell specifically and a few gooses will be cooked. Don't worry your head about it poster 8:59 It will be shock and awe time for you if you are a part of Mitchell's entourage. Trust me. It's nice that you can blog and are curious. If you have a clean nose you don't have to worry, now do you? If you are guilty I suggest you kiss your career in the SO in any capacity adios amigos. Then wait for your screen test with a photograph and a number and a cell. The general population is getting tired of paying taxes for common crooks.
As far as proving allegations? No one needs to prove anything to you. No one. No one reports to you. They report to this bog.
You aren't too awfully bright and that is why Mitchell will be going down the road. Mitchell is a crook. Crooks are crooks because they don't do honest work, they aren't smart enough!
The documents are coming in and so are the witnesses and there really isn't much sense in giving the corrupt a chance to counter or do harm to the people brave enough to come forward.
Once the contact is made on the blog and the allegations have merit the subject is off of this blog and on to the data pool.
There will be criminal charges made on Mitchell specifically and a few gooses will be cooked. Don't worry your head about it poster 8:59 It will be shock and awe time for you if you are a part of Mitchell's entourage. Trust me. It's nice that you can blog and are curious. If you have a clean nose you don't have to worry, now do you? If you are guilty I suggest you kiss your career in the SO in any capacity adios amigos. Then wait for your screen test with a photograph and a number and a cell. The general population is getting tired of paying taxes for common crooks.
As far as proving allegations? No one needs to prove anything to you. No one. No one reports to you. They report to this bog.
You aren't too awfully bright and that is why Mitchell will be going down the road. Mitchell is a crook. Crooks are crooks because they don't do honest work, they aren't smart enough!
Except for the one woman killed by Perdock, I don't believe any blood has been spilled as of yet, at least not any of the blood of the dirty cops in the sheriff's department. As has been said many times before, there are many good people working in that cesspool of a sheriff's department. But, it is time for the dirty cops and their leader, Mitchell, to bleed. It is time for them to go. And I might add, don't step down Mitchell. I want the public to learn how you have miss-managed the department and used it for your own personal gain. I also want to see you get your butt kicked in June!
Officials: Some Santas are suspect this holiday season
Written by Lake County News Reports
Thursday, 17 December 2009
LAKE COUNTY – Local officials are urging community members to be careful in hiring potential Santas this holiday season.
On Wednesday, District Attorney Jon Hopkins' office issued an advisory about reports of persons who have been convicted of child molestation offering their services as Santa Claus.
Before hiring a person or allowing a person to play Santa, local businesses should consider looking on Megan's List to make sure they are not exposing children to potential inappropriate
Written by Lake County News Reports
Thursday, 17 December 2009
LAKE COUNTY – Local officials are urging community members to be careful in hiring potential Santas this holiday season.
On Wednesday, District Attorney Jon Hopkins' office issued an advisory about reports of persons who have been convicted of child molestation offering their services as Santa Claus.
Before hiring a person or allowing a person to play Santa, local businesses should consider looking on Megan's List to make sure they are not exposing children to potential inappropriate
Talk about "witch hunts" Well don't that just take the cake! Poor LE! How MANY witch hunts has LE done to good honest people of LC and then said "you'll get your day in court". So you go to court..that is if you have money to fight... then you get to see how the judges are in bed with the DA and LE. Even when it is clear your civil rights were walked on by LE the judge can't see it through his rose colored glasses. LE gets up on the stand and lies.... while their on overtime! Still you fight on and then maybe you find some relief but not after spending thousands. What about the guy who makes just a tad too much for a public defender? He is screwed and has to take a plea for something he didn't do. No wonder LE feels so high and mighty, they are the ones wearing the robes and carrying the torches and draging people out of their homes, just like back in Salem!
Vengence is a dish best served cold, on a good plan and in an orderly fashion and ignoring the fine whine it will produce.
Ah yes, people have been asking about Perdock's medical leave/admin leave?. Well, it must not be admin leave because he is not tethered to his house. How do I knoww? Because he has been seen many times out doing construction jobs(side jobs making extra money). You can verify this on your own. Ask the Hidden Valley Community Church if he has done any work for them. Also, keep your eyes open and look for him driving about the county in his white Ford F250 diesel truck complete with lumber rack and tool boxes in the bed.
I sure hope the good people of Lake County enjoy paying him his sheriff's department salary (for not going to work and causing Mitchell more embarassment) while he is working and making money on the side.
I sure hope the good people of Lake County enjoy paying him his sheriff's department salary (for not going to work and causing Mitchell more embarassment) while he is working and making money on the side.
You dumped my earlier post, and started a new page or thread after being spammed or flamed. But one of the things that ridiculously long post said was that the moderator (admininstrator?) excises posts that are not in lock step with his/her opinions. Seems to be true, since my post around 8:20 this morning was there, then gone. Just tried to bring some healthy skepticism to the discussion, and point out that civil discourse is beneficial, rants are not. But if all you want to post is stuff that looks like Glenn Beck wrote it, then that's what you'll get, instead of rational thought. You can still be adamant and passionate and steadfast in your opinions and beliefs without being ugly. Well, some can....
Remember that many totalitarian regimes start by punishing speech and burning books, indulging in state censorship. If this blog is truly democratic, all opinions must be welcomed, not just those in agreement with the majority of posters.
The interview went well, I thought! The team just left. It is anytime now. I feel so relieved, like I am a better person for being honest, even though I am out of work. Oh well, life does go, and my lesson from all of this is to be wiser in the future and ask the questions prior before taking any job!.
To the 12:17 post which indicated some connections to Mitchell and Townsend that is sgt. Townsend, first of all your post was removed only because of the language, we appreciate that type of information and in fact would like you to post further information, and if possible put the ex-husband in contact with us through the e-mail account. We would like to have a conversation with him. We are only suggesting to you, to re-post the information but please leave out the profanities and be professional in your presentation, with more detail if possible and or also see if you can get this individual in touch with us, that would be greatly appreciated. We are with you on your post but want to stay on the high ground in our communications. Thanks
To Post 12:14 Opinions are left on the blog, and you can simply go back through the thread and you will see this is the case, yes indeed we do remove post, we just removed one for profanity who is against the LE as we indicated above. There will always be post removed which are those that only want to post to say we are bad people and they don't like us etc etc. or the multiple post to try and bring down the web site or of course the profane or simply non-communicative comments which serve no purpose to the subject at hand and take up space and effect the flow of the thread.
To Post 12:14 Opinions are left on the blog, and you can simply go back through the thread and you will see this is the case, yes indeed we do remove post, we just removed one for profanity who is against the LE as we indicated above. There will always be post removed which are those that only want to post to say we are bad people and they don't like us etc etc. or the multiple post to try and bring down the web site or of course the profane or simply non-communicative comments which serve no purpose to the subject at hand and take up space and effect the flow of the thread.
To post 2:01 thats great news, happy to hear it all went well, we hope that the end result is the same good news, please remember that if or when the time comes that you can pass on information to us, either on the public page or via the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com account to do so, we hope all continues to go well.
To post 1:59, we do understand what you are trying to say, let us give you some overview of this. First of all this site runs through the google system google has indicated they no longer track and maintain IP data on these sites this is one of the reasons we choose this method. As well in a recent court case google was asked to provide IP address's to a LE agency, google refused and were taken to court, the supreme court ruled that google is not required to provide this information, and it was a violation of freedom of speech to do so, this as well is another reason we choose this method. To further that overview, we have brought in several civil right groups and lawyers to review this site and what we are doing and had them look at random selection of comments, all parties have indicated we and the people who post here have nothing at all to be concerned with. Again the very reason we choose this method.
A couple of more items, to all posting pro LE corruption or against it, please lets not use the caps thing, everyone can read and there is no need to use the yelling with caps system we can't hear it anyway. Please post give your opinion thoughts and ideas on anything and the only thing we ask is to leave out the profanity, this is a policy we exert to all parties posting.
Last but not least, all the corruption supporters should remember who is running this site, and why were running this site. You do not dictate to us our methods and our choices, we will try to be fair, but we will not be bullied, we have the power now, and we are doing this to bring down the terrible corruption in this county and return justice to the citizens. It gets rough and a bit bloody sometimes, and that is the way it has to be, there will be a bit of blood spilled in this type of entrenched GOB condition. Last it is our choice to give out details and facts when we choose to, not when you want us to, again you are not in control, We know that is hard to take but it is the hand you are holding, you all did this to yourselves now it has to be fixed.
To post 1:59, we do understand what you are trying to say, let us give you some overview of this. First of all this site runs through the google system google has indicated they no longer track and maintain IP data on these sites this is one of the reasons we choose this method. As well in a recent court case google was asked to provide IP address's to a LE agency, google refused and were taken to court, the supreme court ruled that google is not required to provide this information, and it was a violation of freedom of speech to do so, this as well is another reason we choose this method. To further that overview, we have brought in several civil right groups and lawyers to review this site and what we are doing and had them look at random selection of comments, all parties have indicated we and the people who post here have nothing at all to be concerned with. Again the very reason we choose this method.
A couple of more items, to all posting pro LE corruption or against it, please lets not use the caps thing, everyone can read and there is no need to use the yelling with caps system we can't hear it anyway. Please post give your opinion thoughts and ideas on anything and the only thing we ask is to leave out the profanity, this is a policy we exert to all parties posting.
Last but not least, all the corruption supporters should remember who is running this site, and why were running this site. You do not dictate to us our methods and our choices, we will try to be fair, but we will not be bullied, we have the power now, and we are doing this to bring down the terrible corruption in this county and return justice to the citizens. It gets rough and a bit bloody sometimes, and that is the way it has to be, there will be a bit of blood spilled in this type of entrenched GOB condition. Last it is our choice to give out details and facts when we choose to, not when you want us to, again you are not in control, We know that is hard to take but it is the hand you are holding, you all did this to yourselves now it has to be fixed.
In response to the Admin Leave, just being on Admin Leave does not lock you down to your house. I've seen several deputies through my career placed on admin leave. Those deputies were seen all over the county. The county can, and do, adjust admin leave to suit their interest. Now if Perdock is on Admin Leave and is collecting a paycheck from another employer during the time he is on admin leave, that is against not only policy, but brings into Workmen Comp problems if Perdock is injured.
We did this to outselves, the citizens of Lake County? I think not. So I repeat that a good discussion is important, issues are (or can be) important, but the name-calling, the slanderous accusations without supporting facts, are not productive. If you've got real dirt, spill it. If not, this is nothing more than a gossip site. That's my major concern, that it's easy to snipe from the sidelines, as I must admit I have done myself in the past. But I was young(er) and dumb(er). It's not right ethically, morally, spiritually or in any other way proper. That was and is my point. Say what you have to say, but always be ready to back it up. That's the right thing to do.
To post 3:35 the Did this to yourselves post was directed to the Corrupt LE not the citizens of Lake County, just a little confusion there might have been the way we posted it, at any rate we just wanted to clear that up. It is at best difficult to maintain this method of communications, as all will agree, we all kinds of people from all walks of life posting, and the hard job is trying to maintain a professional presentation. However as well we know people get angry, and they have a right to be, considering the level of corruption that exists in this county, so we do give some leeway in that regard. Now you must also remember that there are often times "methods to the postings" and sometimes feelers are put out for purposes the general viewing public are not instantly made aware of. We do not want anyone to pull back on their opinions and thoughts, for example, to say I wonder if Rodney is getting with so and so, I have heard that this situation happened, is fine to say, now if a person has an exacting fact, based on an eyewitness account and they post that in that manner that also is fine. Remember this is a discussion forum not everything single thing posted must be known as an actual fact. We open up to thought processes and communications through these musings. There is nothing wrong with that, we want the details and as all can tell we have used them to great benefit in bringing out the corruption issues in this county. We want everyone to post to their hearts content, you should of course as already mentioned leave out the profanity, and keep us on the high ground in that regard. We understand the anger and concern of the citizens of this county, the battle is on, and we will not stop until the goals are acheived. Thanks to everyone for the support we are growing in readership at an amazing rate, and are very grateful for the support and involvement of the community.
Here is a letter posted on lakeconews.com written by Rivero calling the GOB out on their business as usual antics. Gotta love this guy, he's got some pair of cohones.
Rivero: Questions for deputy's association
Written by Francisco Rivero
Wednesday, 16 December 2009
Open letter to Lake County Deputy Sheriff’s Association President Gary Frace:
On Dec. 10 you notified me that the Lake County Deputy Sheriff’s Association (DSA) was hosting a candidates’ night on January 11, 2010, at the Kelseyville High School. You invited me to debate Sheriff Mitchell and told me the audience would include members of the DSA, Lake County Correctional Officer’s Association, Lakeport Police, Clearlake Police, Lake County Probation Department and the District Attorney Victim-Witness program.
You added that the “press” would be invited, but the “public” would be excluded. Although I’m grateful for this opportunity, I’m bothered that you intend to exclude the community.
As law enforcement officers we are here to serve our community. We should be accountable to the citizens of Lake County who are collectively our employers. In order to restore the community’s trust, we must have transparency and open dialog, not closed-door backroom sessions.
The DSA should afford the people of Lake County the same respect afforded the members of law enforcement and invite them to this debate.
I believe excluding the community is a mistake and a step backwards for Lake County law enforcement’s public relations. I respectfully request that you reconsider.
Francisco Rivero is a deputy sheriff who is running for Lake County sheriff. He lives in Middletown.
Rivero: Questions for deputy's association
Written by Francisco Rivero
Wednesday, 16 December 2009
Open letter to Lake County Deputy Sheriff’s Association President Gary Frace:
On Dec. 10 you notified me that the Lake County Deputy Sheriff’s Association (DSA) was hosting a candidates’ night on January 11, 2010, at the Kelseyville High School. You invited me to debate Sheriff Mitchell and told me the audience would include members of the DSA, Lake County Correctional Officer’s Association, Lakeport Police, Clearlake Police, Lake County Probation Department and the District Attorney Victim-Witness program.
You added that the “press” would be invited, but the “public” would be excluded. Although I’m grateful for this opportunity, I’m bothered that you intend to exclude the community.
As law enforcement officers we are here to serve our community. We should be accountable to the citizens of Lake County who are collectively our employers. In order to restore the community’s trust, we must have transparency and open dialog, not closed-door backroom sessions.
The DSA should afford the people of Lake County the same respect afforded the members of law enforcement and invite them to this debate.
I believe excluding the community is a mistake and a step backwards for Lake County law enforcement’s public relations. I respectfully request that you reconsider.
Francisco Rivero is a deputy sheriff who is running for Lake County sheriff. He lives in Middletown.
What is "corruption?" By using that word, or its variants, I'm sure we do not all mean the same thing. Do we mean performing illegal acts under the color of authority? Do we mean accepting monies for doing so? Do we mean ignoring the law to the benefit or detriment of one or many or a specific group? What constitutes the bulwark of corruption? Is a misinterpretation of the law corrupt? Is knowing what is right, and doing otherwise corrupt? Is corruption a term that can be applied at large to any elected individual, regardless of performance or attitude or record? If I am a government official (I'm not) and do somthing I'm not supposed to do, either during or outside the performance of my governmental duties, am I corrupt? Or inept? Or ignorant? This term is bandied about so freely herein, that's it's hard to ascertain what is meant. Corrupt implies a malicious heart and malicious intent. Is that what's meant? Same with GOB? Just what constitutes a GOB? Is it longevity? Heritage? Impunity? Is any elected (or appointed) offici8al a GOB based on tenure? Or performance? Someone posted a while back that (implying) that both Mitchell and Hopkins were GOBs. Same with a reference to Rob Brown. So what about people like Rivero? Is he a GOB, because he's been in law enforcement for a few years? Is Anderson a GOB because he worked for the sheriff's department years ago? Because he represents (or has) several law enforcement officers in family law matters? Is Rhodes a GOB because he worked for the sheriff's office more than 14 years ago? Just what does the term imply? Again, labels without definitions seem so easy, so broadly painted, that they don't explain, only taint. Let's get down to the real terms. We don't like anybody, but we certainly don't like who we have. Where was the outcry when Hopkins ran unopposed four years ago? Did anyone scream for a real electoral race, a real choice? I didn't hear any voices. Same with Mitchell. Didn't he run unopposed in the last two elections? Where was the moaning and wailing and lamentations then?
Rod Mitchell, like Frank Rivero, never held a management position before being elected sheriff. Is that a good thing? Do you want someone who knows how to run a sheriff's department? Don't get me wrong, this isn't an endorsement of Rod. Not at all. Where are the truly qualified candidates? I'm not sure electing someone who has sued the last two law enforcement agencies where he's worked is the right choice either, and Rod may not be the right choice. But know the facts before you decide. Throwing out any incumbent is sometimes a good idea. Not always. Maybe this is the right choice, maybe not. In the info posted on the sheriff's web site, we hear Riverso saying he was never offended by any comments, never took them to heart, never even thought they were offensive in any way. Now it's an issue of discrimination? What's up with that? Make a statement, stick to it, or be ready to say why you've changed your mind. Same goes for you, Rod. Don't waffle, man up and say what really happened with Perdock and the Admin leave stuff....
The simple goal is the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins, the details of who will be their replacement, will of course be worked out in the many days and weeks ahead, that is a simple one. There are many plans and ideas being worked in regards to the upcoming election, and if they don't step down, these plans will be implemented and the simple goal is their removal. We will not accept another Rod or John, period.
5:02
Oh, I'm so sorry I didn't write this in a way you could understand it. I expressed my thoughts in such a manner than the considerate would comprehend the meaning.
Oh, I'm so sorry I didn't write this in a way you could understand it. I expressed my thoughts in such a manner than the considerate would comprehend the meaning.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
it doesn't matter what style as long as it is for the LE they will be taken down that is how this site rolls they toss all of LE under the mac truck anything encouraging is tossed if you say you heard some dirt on someone they wallow in that like stink
5:32 PM What part of "Sheriff Rod Mitchell Corruption Watch" is confusing to you? If you would feel better posting on a Support Mitchell Blog Start one. I'm sure there are those that would like to ask some questions of Mitchell,Hopkins and their spokesmen.
To post 4:48, Rivero HAS held a management position. What would you call starting a business from scratch, turning it into a multi-million dollar business with many employees? Having to run the business and handle the payroll and all the other items a business needs, whould you not call that being in management?
Then you say he has sued the last two agencies he worked for. Again you are wrong. He worked for the San Francisco Police Department and never sued them. He sued the Medical Examiner's Office which has no conection to the Police department. That law suit had to do with the way the indigent dead were being treated by the medical examiners office.
Get your facts straight before you start talking out your backside.
Then you say he has sued the last two agencies he worked for. Again you are wrong. He worked for the San Francisco Police Department and never sued them. He sued the Medical Examiner's Office which has no conection to the Police department. That law suit had to do with the way the indigent dead were being treated by the medical examiners office.
Get your facts straight before you start talking out your backside.
I just watched the Lande video on the LCSO website. The deputies were very professional and I respect all of them (although Martin talks too much). I think those FTO's need to review that video because Lande never stated he was trained in racial profiling, it was Dan Noyes. Now how many times have we seen a news reporter change or tweak the statement of a person. Lande's reports stated he saw racial profiling, other deputies telling him how to racial profile and racial comments. I looked over the records on the LCSO website, but I could not find ANY statement from Lande stating he was trained by his FTO's to racial profile.
Now I know Tommy and Brian reads this blog all the time. Would you two like to comment about that? My personal belief is that you four should not get involved in this.
Now I know Tommy and Brian reads this blog all the time. Would you two like to comment about that? My personal belief is that you four should not get involved in this.
I agree with the Rivero statement on his law suits. He sued the Medical Examiners Office while he was a civilian running a mortuary. He was NOT a police officer and had not been a cop for several years. His lawsuit was just as the above blogger stated, it was over how the unclaimed deceased were handled.
Yeah, Mitchell worked in Safeway stacking vegetables. He was a sergeant for a few years and that's it. That must be why ALL of management at the time would not support him for sheriff.
"The contest is not between Us and Them, but between Good and Evil,
and if those who would fight Evil adopt the ways of Evil, Evil wins."
Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
and if those who would fight Evil adopt the ways of Evil, Evil wins."
Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
Oh my god you got to watch Mitchell's GOB's talk about Lande. I like the end the best when Andrews said it wasn't him, Martin or Thomas that taught lande racial profiling. I guess that just leaves Chwacowski!
Chowcowski is the same Sergeant involved in the incident where Mitchell lied and said Chowcowski used the term "Jose Doe." Go to Rivero's website and you'll see where Rivero explains that Chawcowski actually said "what if Jose is down," referring to Chowcowski not wanting to provide medical aid to "Joses," ie Mexicans. Read the memo Rivero sent Mitchell the day of the incident, telling indeed.
Tell me where I can watch the Lande recording...Thanks and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!!
I wonder if Chwailkowski will fly off into a steroidal rage and challenge Andrews to fight. This is exactly what he admitted to doing to Lande under oath in front of a court reporter during Beland’s appeal hearing last week. According to Chwailkowski, he accosted Lande at the Konocti (UA38) gym and took away his elliptical machine. When Lande protested, Chwialkowski’s challenged him to fight. Rather unstable behavior for a guy who carries a gun for a living. Also, during that same hearing, Chwialkowski said he was the victim of constant racial epithets against Polish people. He accused the LCSO ADMINISTRATION of belittling him and calling him stupid because of his Polish ancestry. He said Polish comments were common, but nobody said anything against Mexicans. So to hear him tell it he is a bully victim. By the way, I have it from a reliable source Rivero recorded the “What if Jose is down,” supervisor meeting and is just waiting for the right time to release it. Keep denying.
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