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Be aware just got word that authorities are and have set up "trim" operatives in Willits/Ukiah/Lake...looking for trim work, posers set up in dredlocks and appropriate dress. Be cautious if utilizing individuals through those means.
2:10 : Can't join those "cause" because I'm not ignorant. Sorry, maybe I'll lose some brain cells one day and then I will be ignorant and able to undestand. Thank god for sand, little man!
This is for all you deputy sheriff's who have taken women to the Clearlake Oaks substation and abused, raped and sodomized them. Don't think you got away with it. I know your names and am waiting for one more to give a statement and then I will go to the Attorney General's office.
To most recent posts of having information i.e. post 2:44 and post 1:09 white women post, we are set up with a secure system for your information, utilize the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com....You will be contacted and you will be safe...Thank you for your help.
To post 2:43....It is Can't join "that" not "those" cause.....It is understand not "undestand" ..........Thank God for "sand"??? so it appears that yes you are ignorant and do in fact need a few additional brain cells.....Little man! However we still would be willing to bring you on board, follow your heart you will see it is the right thing to do. Don't worry about spelling we offer classes in that before we allow you to go to work for the cause.
3:05: Yes,I wrote hastily. Don't care much about spelling but I am glad you have time to be critical of it. And the other idiotic issues you partake in. Enjoy your present company, Little Man! You fit in well. Meanwhile, I'll sit back and laugh at the idiots, like you, who think the world is out to get 'em. bye bye now!
Come on admit it you put that last post through spell checker before you posted it didn't you? Listen you have to know I am just having fun with you. Sometimes a little levity is good in these difficult times. Heck who knows one day we might sit at a bar while you hoist a tall one and I fire up a fat one. Ya never know, hey we could talk about the new sheriff Rivero.(levity) Anyway neither one of us is adding any substance to the site, so I'll call this my last post with ya, and if you want to fire a last one back I'll let you have the last word. Peace.
Post 2:44 PM - Don't want to doubt what your saying, but could you please tell me where in the Oaks there is a substation? I have lived here many many years and never realised there was one!
I too tried the gmail and it only took me to a site that had nothing to do with this with several other links to go to like finding a gmail owner, and another mitchell in VA
4:17 PM
they can't help you with the location as you can see they don't even kave correct information..........there is a new Sub in Lucerne....but shhh don't tell them they know it all
they can't help you with the location as you can see they don't even kave correct information..........there is a new Sub in Lucerne....but shhh don't tell them they know it all
4:07, Done deal. Thanks for the humor. I did enjoy it. But no thanks, there will be no talking about Sheriff Rivero. That guy would ruin an already troubled department. I understand his work slate isn't that clean either. Enjoy future posts.
Sorry if there was a lack of clarity. To contact, log in to your (or anybody's) email. write an email to the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com address. I am able to receive emails just fine.
THE AMERICAN OBSERVER RIGHT SIDE OF THE FRONT PAGE, WAKE UP NINE GREEN NO INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON IN HIGH PLACES
to everyone sorry for the unclear instructions, to send information out of public view, to the administrators simply send an e-mail to sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com
Use whatever e-mail system you choose yours or anyone elses.
This is to all the individuals who are ready to pass on information to the citizens group.
Use whatever e-mail system you choose yours or anyone elses.
This is to all the individuals who are ready to pass on information to the citizens group.
Thank You so much for the past couple of hours of enjoyment. Reading this blog has cracked me up. :) I am a long term Lake County resident and have heard rumors for years about the GOB of Lake County, glad to finally see some light shed on the matter. Although I do want to call someone out>>>Regarding false info pertaining to Last Mile Auto posted on Nov 7 @ 7:30, If Mr Coleman didn't want his cars removed by Code Enforcement perhaps he should have moved them himself! Joann you should know your facts before you spew your venom. By the way I don't need to be anonymous so I'll post my name.
Info: Someone should speak to Margie, Rod Michells secretary who quit. Why did she quit? She got tierd of having to cover for her boss. Talk with her and get the scoop!
Flash, someone aint telling the truth: Perfect example of the house of Mitchell falling down, i.e. sheriff investigation and response timelines: Ok sheriffs office we have a stabbing as reported in the record bee. Capt. Bauman reported no leads no information no one found at the location of the incident which was reported to be in the front of the Lake builders(ace) store hwy 20 nice. Bauman reports the call in at 5:20 then said units sent found nothing in the area. Well then why were witness's on scene and the stabbing victim on scene till nearly 6:00 and no one I mean no police units showed up? Well if you had done your job sheriffs dept. and actually showed up which you did not, and I mean people in the parking lot till after 6:00 discussing the situation, you would have found some things out. Did you know that after the victim was stabbed, a truck pick-up with two males in it this was at appox 5:40 drove up to the passenger jumped out with a 2x4 and went after the man again, the man ran to the front of the lake builders store and the person jumped back in the truck and drove off. Oh you didn't know that, in fact you never showed up did you Captain Bauman. Two children called this in, and no one showed up to a stabbing? Is that right Captain B.Did you know their were witness's who could have given you this information if you had showed up. And if you still want to say you showed up why didn't you ask anyone any questions? They were there standing around waiting. Did you know that at appox 5:50 another car arrived and picked up the stabbing victim? Makes timeline sense doesn't it you idiots because the paper reported the hospital arrival of the man at appox 6:00. Oh know you didn't know that at the time did you. But your units were there you said. Did you know that a call was made the next morning by a person to the sheriffs dept. re-reporting the incident and wanting to give more information. Do you know what the sheriffs operator said, in a very mean and with a very rotten attitude? She and I am quoting "We already know all about that, we have all the information unless you have more information we don't need anymore calls!!!!! Boy this is classic excellent police work isn't it Mitchell. What the hell is going on in this county? Someone from LE want to respond to this wonderful bit of police work? Ladies and gentlemen of this county be concerned, be very concerned. Ok LE boys you want anymore defined FACTS then that to prove your total incompetence? I'll bet not a single response, just like no response to the sopher reese in lakeport post, just like the no response to the Dutra post. I say again what the hell is going on?
Some one please get the site Margie information for contacting her. As you can see the citizens watch group is already in operation, we have not announced it, but we are out there, no full well sheriffs dept. we are out there more then what you think. we are watching, in more detail then you know. There are a couple more incidents to report on, and just to let you sheriffs know we had an operative 20 feet away from you on both incidents and you did not have a clue they were there. Don't slip up fella's don't make a single mistake, the gig is up, we keep telling you, you keep refusing to listen. Were telling you again, we are watching.For those people inside the sheriffs dept. who are good people come to this site, report your information, via the sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com e-mail account.
Be aware just got word that authorities are and have set up "trim" operatives in Willits/Ukiah/Lake...looking for trim work, posers set up in dredlocks and appropriate dress. Be cautious if utilizing individuals through those means.
This citizens group is networked from one end of this county to the other and beyond! You guys keep getting told what is happening, you can keep denying it, but its biting you in the arse right now. And you guys ain't lookin to good. Great job on the 8:09 post!! whoever that was!!
I think you should extend your offer of a negotiated vacating of their offices by both Mitchell and Hopkins, even though you said it would not be offered again, these guys are way over their heads. And going down fast.
This citizens group is networked from one end of this county to the other and beyond! You guys keep getting told what is happening, you can keep denying it, but its biting you in the arse right now. And you guys ain't lookin to good. Great job on the 8:09 post!! whoever that was!!
I think you should extend your offer of a negotiated vacating of their offices by both Mitchell and Hopkins, even though you said it would not be offered again, these guys are way over their heads. And going down fast.
When I've had the need to call the SO I hold my breath hoping than Jan will answer. She is professional and pleasant, as to the other women who answer the phone it's a whole different and demeaning experience. I've requested documents from the Record's Department and the woman I spoke with was rude and condesending. I understand their jobs are difficult but that doesn't give them the right to be rude to the public and further more I help to pay their salary and if they hold the position they should have the ability to perform without excuses.
The same goes for the court house staff and if it's true as I've been told they are trained not to have eye contact with the public but to be stern and brief. What's up with that? The public has the right to be traeted with respect and employees should not be passing judgement.
The same goes for the court house staff and if it's true as I've been told they are trained not to have eye contact with the public but to be stern and brief. What's up with that? The public has the right to be traeted with respect and employees should not be passing judgement.
Looks like someone hit a nerve!! You must work for one of the agencies the public is refering to in their posts.
Come on Post 8:39 get a clue we know it hurts but you gotta come to your senses man. Your making the LE look even worse.
8:39 AM
Quite a few members of law enforcement have posted on this site. To quote you "Thugs of society"....hmmmm.
You should learn to choose your words more carefully and society will be better for it.
Quite a few members of law enforcement have posted on this site. To quote you "Thugs of society"....hmmmm.
You should learn to choose your words more carefully and society will be better for it.
looks like these guys are for real, appears they have people working every angle, on the streets, on the net, in your cars, and in your departments, this is amazing. Great work whoever is on this, and thanks to the inside people helping! Been here 15 years never thought I'd see it happening.
7:59 Post: Great Post! Scanners come in wonderful in order to keep informed of where and when something is coming down. Gray Frace in his report stated officers were concerned after the News report that their jobs would be more difficult because the citizens didn't know where to place their trust. They should be! For all the good guys out there, its time you step forward. Some state they don't see any of what is being said going on. Then its high time you start paying attention. It's sad it has come to this and yes your job will be more difficult, but you choose this job and if you can't stand by the oath you took, you need to find work elsewhere in another field. The rotten eggs have spoiled it for you and its up to you to join the citizens in throwing them out of the basket. Now LE will be wondering on each and every call they get if they are being set up! If there will be someone watching! If they will report something different than what they do! This is a good thing. Maybe now we will get the true facts!
Re-post information for those that don't get up so early
Flash, someone aint telling the truth: Perfect example of the house of Mitchell falling down, i.e. sheriff investigation and response timelines: Ok sheriffs office we have a stabbing as reported in the record bee. Capt. Bauman reported no leads no information no one found at the location of the incident which was reported to be in the front of the Lake builders(ace) store hwy 20 nice. Bauman reports the call in at 5:20 then said units sent found nothing in the area. Well then why were witness's on scene and the stabbing victim on scene till nearly 6:00 and no one I mean no police units showed up? Well if you had done your job sheriffs dept. and actually showed up which you did not, and I mean people in the parking lot till after 6:00 discussing the situation, you would have found some things out. Did you know that after the victim was stabbed, a truck pick-up with two males in it this was at appox 5:40 drove up to the passenger jumped out with a 2x4 and went after the man again, the man ran to the front of the lake builders store and the person jumped back in the truck and drove off. Oh you didn't know that, in fact you never showed up did you Captain Bauman. Two children called this in, and no one showed up to a stabbing? Is that right Captain B.Did you know their were witness's who could have given you this information if you had showed up. And if you still want to say you showed up why didn't you ask anyone any questions? They were there standing around waiting. Did you know that at appox 5:50 another car arrived and picked up the stabbing victim? Makes timeline sense doesn't it you idiots because the paper reported the hospital arrival of the man at appox 6:00. Oh know you didn't know that at the time did you. But your units were there you said. Did you know that a call was made the next morning by a person to the sheriffs dept. re-reporting the incident and wanting to give more information. Do you know what the sheriffs operator said, in a very mean and with a very rotten attitude? She and I am quoting "We already know all about that, we have all the information unless you have more information we don't need anymore calls!!!!! Boy this is classic excellent police work isn't it Mitchell. What the hell is going on in this county? Someone from LE want to respond to this wonderful bit of police work? Ladies and gentlemen of this county be concerned, be very concerned. Ok LE boys you want anymore defined FACTS then that to prove your total incompetence? I'll bet not a single response, just like no response to the sopher reese in lakeport post, just like the no response to the Dutra post. I say again what the hell is going on?
Flash, someone aint telling the truth: Perfect example of the house of Mitchell falling down, i.e. sheriff investigation and response timelines: Ok sheriffs office we have a stabbing as reported in the record bee. Capt. Bauman reported no leads no information no one found at the location of the incident which was reported to be in the front of the Lake builders(ace) store hwy 20 nice. Bauman reports the call in at 5:20 then said units sent found nothing in the area. Well then why were witness's on scene and the stabbing victim on scene till nearly 6:00 and no one I mean no police units showed up? Well if you had done your job sheriffs dept. and actually showed up which you did not, and I mean people in the parking lot till after 6:00 discussing the situation, you would have found some things out. Did you know that after the victim was stabbed, a truck pick-up with two males in it this was at appox 5:40 drove up to the passenger jumped out with a 2x4 and went after the man again, the man ran to the front of the lake builders store and the person jumped back in the truck and drove off. Oh you didn't know that, in fact you never showed up did you Captain Bauman. Two children called this in, and no one showed up to a stabbing? Is that right Captain B.Did you know their were witness's who could have given you this information if you had showed up. And if you still want to say you showed up why didn't you ask anyone any questions? They were there standing around waiting. Did you know that at appox 5:50 another car arrived and picked up the stabbing victim? Makes timeline sense doesn't it you idiots because the paper reported the hospital arrival of the man at appox 6:00. Oh know you didn't know that at the time did you. But your units were there you said. Did you know that a call was made the next morning by a person to the sheriffs dept. re-reporting the incident and wanting to give more information. Do you know what the sheriffs operator said, in a very mean and with a very rotten attitude? She and I am quoting "We already know all about that, we have all the information unless you have more information we don't need anymore calls!!!!! Boy this is classic excellent police work isn't it Mitchell. What the hell is going on in this county? Someone from LE want to respond to this wonderful bit of police work? Ladies and gentlemen of this county be concerned, be very concerned. Ok LE boys you want anymore defined FACTS then that to prove your total incompetence? I'll bet not a single response, just like no response to the sopher reese in lakeport post, just like the no response to the Dutra post. I say again what the hell is going on?
I also read the statement given by Gary Frace as Pres. of the deputy's union on the lakenew.com site. I would bet that out of 65 members of their union, less then 12 showed up at the meeting. I am sorry but if I was a member of that union I would have concerns. A emergency meeting must give the "rank and file" at least 24 hour notice for ANY meeting to be valid! I would love to get my hands on that meeting's member sign-in sheet because every name on there would show you Mitchell's little band of thugs. With Gary Frace leading the way and Dutra close behind. What Frace isn't smart enough to figure out is that he is just Dutra's sock puppet!
Please everyone if you are going to post make it such that we can understand what the heck you are saying. "smathhering" is not even a word. If the post cannot be understood, we cannot let it take up space, take your time and at least post so that everyone knows what you are saying.
SMATTHERINGS ARE THE LIMITED FEW WHO PROTEST ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON, THAT IS WELL UNDERSTOOD BY ALL, YOUR QUEST TO KEEP ANYTHING PRO LAKE COUNTY IS ALWAYS REMOVED FROM THIS PAGE ALL YOU ARE INTERESTED IN NINE GREEN IS TO TOSS ALL LE IN LAKE COUNTY UNDER A BIG BUS. YOU DISGUEST THE GOOD PEOPLE OF LAKE COUNTY WHO DO NOT SHARE YOUR TATICS OF BEING THE PHEONIX THAT RISES FROM THE ASHES....
I have lived in this county for 25 yrs and have nothing but good to say about the Lake Co. sheriff's office I have been stopped several times for traffic violations (never sited) but have always been treated with respect. I support the hard working officers of the sheriff's dept. but do have a problem with Mitchell, and that stems from the Dinus trail. Mitchell tried to show it was only Hopkins who pursued Dinus but the responsibility was also his. That was enough. He now seems to be trying to put up a smoke screen to distort the facts.
It is smattering not smatthering. It is disgusted not desguested! Learn to spell if you are going to type in CAPS because everytime you do, you look dumb. I am one of the good people of Lake County and I don't want to throw all LE under the bus, just the dumb ones like you! I alway know when you are posting because you always have the same style. You never make any useful comments you just rant! Let us see is the Frace? By the spelling I would think so. Or is it Dutra's wife again posting from her cell phone. Hummmmmm!
You can rant all you want but no one ever see's answers to the questions. Report after report comes in. These people are always asking for a response. Post 2:15 was a great post, You analyzed very well. The end point concerning Mitchell was spot on. The questions must be answered. But when responses to inquiries are asked for. Nothing, someone comes on and starts hammering. Could someone tell me what is wrong with the end game being the LE of this county working in concert with the good citizens of this county. Meetings, information sharing, conflict resolution that actually works, mutual decisions being made concerning how we utilize law enforcement in this county. A common goal in approach and action agreed upon. Look around many communities have acheived this, Santa Cruz and Santa Barbara being two examples. Humbolt is moving that way. But first the pain, is that what it has to be? Its time for change, its time for this small little county to evolve like many others already have.
I'm really not liking what I'm hearing about either of the two Sheriff's candidates. The recent scandal and accusations of mismanagement and lack of proper supervision in the SO is a definite concern. Way to much singing and dancing on the part of Sheriff Mitchell trying to cover his tracks.
I hear way to much public whining and crying from the rank and file while supervisors and command officers seem to be patting themselves on the back while doing nothing to address the issues. Where is the Sheriff's senior staff and what are they doing. Either he is getting some bad advice, filtered information of he is ignoring what he's told.
Sheriff's candidate Rivero is reported to have been a San Francisco Police officers for seven years and a Lake Co. Deputy for three. How does that qualify him to be a department head of a Sheriff's Department. I see no law enforcement experience as a supervisor, command officer or administrator. I do recall reading a comment about him being an acting supervisor. What's that? Queen for a day.
You must learn to be a sailor before you can steer the boat and be the captain.
Everything I read indicated this man has a history or trying to ride the affirmative action train which incidentally is no longer legal. Everywhere he goes it seems he is the victim of some type of discrimination and prejudice because he's hispanic so he has to file a complaint. Is everyone picking on him or he he just an AH and a back stabber. If that's it I don't think I'd like him either.
If he is being singled out for harassment and nothing is being done when its brought to the attention of the boss then we need to bring in a big broom and sweep that place clean.
I know for a fact that there are a number of highly respected former law enforcement officials from outside agencies living here in retirement. Many are from very progressive organizations and have earned the respect of their peers. Those I talked to are amazed at what's reported to be going on in the Sheriff's Department while at the same time this infighting has become a joke. Perhaps Sheriff Rod would be wise to seek some of these people out and ask for some outside opinions.
As for Rivero, go learn how to be a Cop first and if you aren't happy here go back to SFPD. I'm sure they would love you.
As for the I-Team stars, you made yourselves look worse then the Sheriff although I can't say he did himself much good when he got stopped skulking in to his office by the TV man.
I hear way to much public whining and crying from the rank and file while supervisors and command officers seem to be patting themselves on the back while doing nothing to address the issues. Where is the Sheriff's senior staff and what are they doing. Either he is getting some bad advice, filtered information of he is ignoring what he's told.
Sheriff's candidate Rivero is reported to have been a San Francisco Police officers for seven years and a Lake Co. Deputy for three. How does that qualify him to be a department head of a Sheriff's Department. I see no law enforcement experience as a supervisor, command officer or administrator. I do recall reading a comment about him being an acting supervisor. What's that? Queen for a day.
You must learn to be a sailor before you can steer the boat and be the captain.
Everything I read indicated this man has a history or trying to ride the affirmative action train which incidentally is no longer legal. Everywhere he goes it seems he is the victim of some type of discrimination and prejudice because he's hispanic so he has to file a complaint. Is everyone picking on him or he he just an AH and a back stabber. If that's it I don't think I'd like him either.
If he is being singled out for harassment and nothing is being done when its brought to the attention of the boss then we need to bring in a big broom and sweep that place clean.
I know for a fact that there are a number of highly respected former law enforcement officials from outside agencies living here in retirement. Many are from very progressive organizations and have earned the respect of their peers. Those I talked to are amazed at what's reported to be going on in the Sheriff's Department while at the same time this infighting has become a joke. Perhaps Sheriff Rod would be wise to seek some of these people out and ask for some outside opinions.
As for Rivero, go learn how to be a Cop first and if you aren't happy here go back to SFPD. I'm sure they would love you.
As for the I-Team stars, you made yourselves look worse then the Sheriff although I can't say he did himself much good when he got stopped skulking in to his office by the TV man.
Who cares if we can't spell, we get the point. Some of us get in a hurry, some don't have spell check and some of us a dumb, so what? You have a point to make go ahead and make it. If I'm to dumb to grasp it because the word is misspelled that's my loss.
The speling thinge haz gon bac an fotrh bteween ech side itz jus wha happin win de pubic spekes kno big deal. eh? we both du it. o well.
I would like to address the picture outside Sheriff Mitchell's office on the Channel 7 news. Yes it reads don't mess with a deputy or something to that affect BUT what it does not show or say is why that person was pinned to the ground by that deputy. We are talking about people who rob, beat, rape, sell drugs to our children and have no problem what so ever assaulting an officer of the law to save their own sorry skin! Our Law Enforcement officers put on their uniforms, gun, vest kisses their family good bye hoping that will not be the last time they see their loved ones. BECAUSE they put their lives on the line every day for people who love to bad mouth them one minute and then call for them to help them raise their out of control child or enforce the domestic violence order they have against their husband who is at their home at their request but now is tired of them being there! If a dirt bag is going to fight with an officer or deputy that is what they deserve! When you have fought with someone for 10 minutes who has a knife while your back up is trying to get to you as fast as you can and put your life on the line for people who hate you THEN maybe you can have a say! Until then shut up! These brave men and women do this and still have the courage to get up the next day and do it again. Think about it without them what would happen to you, your family, your property if they decided not to! I stand behind our sheriff's department and pity those who have to sling lies stating they "want to make this county better" come on all you are doing is bringing shame to yourself and those who back you up on a call every day!
BRAVO November 19, 2009 2:20
glad I got to read it before they poof it off, as they often do unless it is to slamdunk the LE. I feel the same way and pray daily for our LE as I hear then on My scanner going to a energency call.
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glad I got to read it before they poof it off, as they often do unless it is to slamdunk the LE. I feel the same way and pray daily for our LE as I hear then on My scanner going to a energency call.
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WOO HOO BAWAHAHAHA TAKE THAT SMITTER SMATTER SMATTHEERING THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE WHO WILL COME BACK TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ARE SOOOOOO WRRRRRROOOONG
Would you guys stop acting like this citizens group doesn't want any police force. We all understand the importance of the role a good honest solid police organization plays in the community. Post after post we talk about a combined effort between citizens and their local LE. Stop with the ignorant you don't know where you would be without them postings. We all agree with that, we all conform to that concept. This blog and the issues in the county are not about that, they are about the corruption, and operations of an out of control LE and DA. Can we be any more clear then that.
wanna be clear shut this down and stop labeling LE as THEM AGAINST CITIZENS. what I have read from the Moderator and CO. does not sound like a congenial group to want to grow a relationship by the time this blog gets read by the people sending links to it the respect for Our LE is diminishing because some people read unfounded rumors and mostly gossip what in the world will you have left, Sheriff Mitchell will win the upcoming election, and then where will all you hatemonger's be, You folks always seem to have a vendetta against something perhaps that is why you chose to back someone who want to sue the crap out of our County, mark My words it sure looking that way.
No election won by making a change for the sake of change works....okay folks read fast they will take this one off too.
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*I am not LE just a tax payer of Lake County who loves My retirement in LC>
No election won by making a change for the sake of change works....okay folks read fast they will take this one off too.
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*I am not LE just a tax payer of Lake County who loves My retirement in LC>
No I believe that the posting thus far have been about the one sided alligations of 3 people that were past or present employees of our local Sheriff's department. This is not proof that this "corruption" has or is taking place and the crappy information being slung on the news is totally one sided and frankly motivated by the need to make someone look better to get the votes he needs for sheriff. No one said that our local sheriff's department is perfect, NO agency is, what is being said is that maybe Dan and OTHERS should do better investigating before putting out a blanket statement the ALL of our local deputies are corrupt! In fact those who appeared on the channel 7 news weren't too happy to see the sheriff's department put out their own facts because it shows they are full of crap! But then again they are being snow balled right? WRONG! They are twisting the facts to make them look more the victim.
Every one knows there are good and bad in LE. In only 1 out of 4 of my encounters was the experience negative. The first three were professional, Even tho one resulted in a ticket I felt I didn't deserve. The fourth didn't result in a ticket but the professionalism was so lacking that now every patrol car I see I wonder if that is him. To see a patrol car shouldn't invoke fear of a confrontation. Now with all this publicity It doesn't make it any better.
I agree with the post from 2:20...that picture has been brought up several times in a negative way. First off Sheriff Mitchell did not take that picture himself, it is massed produced and probably is up at several other law enforcement agencies. Second, have any of you people watched "COPS"? An officer will tell a suspect to stop, lie down or whatever several times before they reach up to them and bring them to the ground. Do you expect the officer to lie them down softly? Get real people, whether your against law enforcement or just trying have input with LE, you'll never really understand what they go through until you sign up and do the job yourself. By the way, since I don't know the procedure for taking down a suspect (or whatever they are called) it is because I am not a law enforcement officer.
I've known Lande since he started. A cop with a Masters Degree and was working on his doctorate. Not ONE deputy or even Mitchell can match Lande's educational training. I remember he tried out for SWAT, passed all the requirements, but he was not selected. The only reason given by the SWAT sergeant was that the SWAT team would not vote him in. Well, since when is a SWAT or Detective unit a club? Lande was not allowed on SWAT only because of his complaint. Let’s see management or even Human Resources investigate that?
Lande does not work for LCSO, was not under ANY disiplainary action and interacted well with other deputies on his shift. Since he works for another agency, he has no reason now to come forward but to tell the truth.
Lande does not work for LCSO, was not under ANY disiplainary action and interacted well with other deputies on his shift. Since he works for another agency, he has no reason now to come forward but to tell the truth.
The smartest thing Lande did was to transfer to another department. The entire board of the Deputy Sheriff's Association doesn't have half his IQ. They were all jealous!
Not only that but he is happily working in Santa Cruz(Lande)...A good sharp young kid who we lost. How many more good people has Mitchell chased out.
You guys can play the denial game till your blue in the face, but again and fair warning, you have not heard but one third of what is going to come out. Believe me you want to pick your position very carefully because egg on your face doesn't look to good. Did I hear that right that the cops show is the show that you use to judge how cops should be and this is your way of understanding these complex issues, wow that makes me confident. Ok well you have had your say, boy hard to debate that one.
Guys the world has passed you by, the intelligence of the people in lake county has passed you by, a change has happened ranting and smoke screens don't work anymore, the gig is up.
There is more information coming, and it is not going to paint a pretty picture, we keep warning you, and your going to keep putting your foot in it; your choice.
You guys can play the denial game till your blue in the face, but again and fair warning, you have not heard but one third of what is going to come out. Believe me you want to pick your position very carefully because egg on your face doesn't look to good. Did I hear that right that the cops show is the show that you use to judge how cops should be and this is your way of understanding these complex issues, wow that makes me confident. Ok well you have had your say, boy hard to debate that one.
Guys the world has passed you by, the intelligence of the people in lake county has passed you by, a change has happened ranting and smoke screens don't work anymore, the gig is up.
There is more information coming, and it is not going to paint a pretty picture, we keep warning you, and your going to keep putting your foot in it; your choice.
To post 4:40 PM
I'm guessing Lande didn't make the SWAT because of attitude. I've said before I saw him in action and I had to tell him to get a grip as he was high strung, agitated and made me feel very uneasy. His partner kept looking back and forth at us and I had to calm down this deputy. I told him he was in full view of my security cameras and that's when he calmed down. I'll always remember his big eyes that seemed to bludge out. I'm not being critical, I'm stating what occurred.
I'm guessing Lande didn't make the SWAT because of attitude. I've said before I saw him in action and I had to tell him to get a grip as he was high strung, agitated and made me feel very uneasy. His partner kept looking back and forth at us and I had to calm down this deputy. I told him he was in full view of my security cameras and that's when he calmed down. I'll always remember his big eyes that seemed to bludge out. I'm not being critical, I'm stating what occurred.
This is in response to the post of 4:30 regarding Lande. Yes Lande is a very smart educated man and should be commended for his accomplishments and acquiring his Masters Degree and pursuing his doctorate. HOWEVER, book smart does not make you street smart those are two different things. I have heard of several occations where he put several of his partner's safety in danger because he was only focusing on what he was doing not what was going on around him! He would cover emergency radio traffic, make unnecessary stops and not pay attention to anything else but what he was doing making him a safety risk to those he worked for. Book smart does not make a good deputy so to say because he has a masters and his educational training out weighs others in the sheriff's department doesn't mean anything.
No but booksmart is what you want to start with, and the Santa Cruz SO is quite happy with him, and he is doing excellent on that force, we lost him thank Mitchell for that one
No lande didn't stay in Lake County because of the treatment he received from Mitchell and the corrupt sheriff department, stop dancing guys it looks bad
This is an answer to 4:40
A SWAT team member has got to work as part of a TEAM. These officers have got to trust each other in every reguard. They have to be better tougher, and have more ability then the average officer. They have to not only understand the tactics but they have to be able to DO IT. There is no way you can learn this in a class. If you are not trusted than you can't be on the team. Every SWAT team I know of has a selection process and a team vote. Clearly he was not trusted by the other members of the team. It is one thing to know the book and another to apply it. There are many individuals who have passed academy training and have failed the field training. There are those who just don't belong...Perhaps he just did not cut the mustard.
A SWAT team member has got to work as part of a TEAM. These officers have got to trust each other in every reguard. They have to be better tougher, and have more ability then the average officer. They have to not only understand the tactics but they have to be able to DO IT. There is no way you can learn this in a class. If you are not trusted than you can't be on the team. Every SWAT team I know of has a selection process and a team vote. Clearly he was not trusted by the other members of the team. It is one thing to know the book and another to apply it. There are many individuals who have passed academy training and have failed the field training. There are those who just don't belong...Perhaps he just did not cut the mustard.
One more thing about LCSO SWAT, they have to know how to slap a handcuffed Mexican prisoner in the back of the head. RIght big guys?
Did you see it. Your witness did not report it either until months later. This is a Public Defender who witnessed police misconduct. That my friend is a Public Defenders wet dream and he did not report it. NO f-ing way. I do not believe him.
The only reason I watch COPS is for the same reason I read this blog...comedic relief. The complex issues are way over my head --
...We have to re-establish the establishment (?????)
...please have MIA contact me
...you're going to have egg on your face (do you know me?)
...Forethought, don't put stupid posters in your office
Reality...Forethought, think before doing something illegal
Reality...I am far more intelligent than you think. Prove the complexity of your issues. The way I see it, this blog is no more effective than the one against the Gossetts. At least you can spell correctly, oh wait no, it's 'too good', not 'to good'.
...We have to re-establish the establishment (?????)
...please have MIA contact me
...you're going to have egg on your face (do you know me?)
...Forethought, don't put stupid posters in your office
Reality...Forethought, think before doing something illegal
Reality...I am far more intelligent than you think. Prove the complexity of your issues. The way I see it, this blog is no more effective than the one against the Gossetts. At least you can spell correctly, oh wait no, it's 'too good', not 'to good'.
I have lived in Lake County for forty years and has Dan Noyes made Lake county look bad? No. LAKE COUNTY IS BAD. Law enforcement is nothing more than a low grade Mafia template and the players ALWAYS tied to construction. How about the polic chief of Clearlake who with the building inspector red tagged homes and then bought them before they went to auction? All the contractors in the area knew the game and were afaid to come forward. They KNEW the consequences of reporting and stood by as individuals afraid to do anything about it. North Coast Builders Exchange in Lakeport was shut down and an exchange county wide COULD have prevented the illegal activities. It's fun for me to see these idiots run for the hills. Keep the pressure on and them in the light. This type of activity needs to stop. Cops don't know the first thing about construction, only destruction and they have really messed the county up. They need to hit the road. They need to live in dumpsters because they are garbage. Then the real law enforcement can do their jobs.
Clean up our homes and county. Show these lousy creeps we won't put up with their junk.
Clean up our homes and county. Show these lousy creeps we won't put up with their junk.
to poster 6:51
I have read most of the posts on this site. Your posts, claim you support LE but your senseless posts only cast your LE buddies in a bad light for being a friend of yours. There are some really sincere people on here that have some real concerns about some of the LCSO staff. You seem to be a "know it all" and are not who this site is trying to reach out to. Your tactics are bullyish which makes everyone who reads your posts believe that your LE buddies must be of the same ilk. You seem to be the cyber-stalker type and that makes you very creepy!
I have read most of the posts on this site. Your posts, claim you support LE but your senseless posts only cast your LE buddies in a bad light for being a friend of yours. There are some really sincere people on here that have some real concerns about some of the LCSO staff. You seem to be a "know it all" and are not who this site is trying to reach out to. Your tactics are bullyish which makes everyone who reads your posts believe that your LE buddies must be of the same ilk. You seem to be the cyber-stalker type and that makes you very creepy!
I gotta agree. Just like the We are putting the second phase of our plan in motion posts. Creepy and weird.
What is amazing is some of the honest "politicans" and county employees will NOT get involved. "I am not in politics any more" translates to: I can't go the way of the GOB's and I an honest, so I have to remove myself from the "politics" because I will be personally attacked for coming forward. That is going to change and that change is happening. Thank you to those brave citizens that realize that it isn't their right to speak out, but their DUTY~!!!
05/29/07 – Frank Rivero was hired by the Lake County Sheriff’s Department.
Not Qualified to be Sheriff!
Not Qualified to be Sheriff!
I have just seen the video Rod, and your body language is OFF! I have studied body language in college, and you are tight fisted in your right hand in which the viewers cannot see, you left hand is very animated and defensive. The skin color of your face is one of being nervous and not sure of oneself. Your breathing is deep and not in sync with your heart. You move and sway to the left and right, and sometimes forward, this is an indication of being nervous or one who is not in control of their thoughts. You are pitchy and not modulated in your tone of speech. I am ashamed of you! You too should be ashamed!
TO November 19, 2009 8:18 AM:
When i worked for Lake County, I was reprimanded for being too nice. They wanted me to be a total bitch to the "clients." I couldn't do that to people who were down and out. County employees are basically told to be cold-hearted and unempathetic. Sorry... no can do. LC has a one-year probationary period in which you better suck up and be a kiss-azz or else it's "buh buy" without the blink of an eye.
When i worked for Lake County, I was reprimanded for being too nice. They wanted me to be a total bitch to the "clients." I couldn't do that to people who were down and out. County employees are basically told to be cold-hearted and unempathetic. Sorry... no can do. LC has a one-year probationary period in which you better suck up and be a kiss-azz or else it's "buh buy" without the blink of an eye.
POST 619 and all others that do not believe in the operations of this site. CORRECTION there is a site, there is a MIA, there is someone that is taking all complaints and there is someone investigating them. I report mine today very causiously and intelligently. I had my own specifications in order to feel comfortable about relaying the information I have. They were absolutely wonderful throughout our conversation and revealed alot more to me than I had ever expected. I will not disclose anything that was said on my behalf nor theres. You can sit here and debate forever and get nowhere. I choose to do more and that was to follow their lead. Hey I still here, still alive, no harrassment from anyone cuz guess what? NO ONE KNOWS! I am finally relieved to have been able to stress my concerns and now it is in their investigators hands! Go to SheriffMitchellWatch@gmail.com and you too can help in being a positive part of the history of what is about to take place for the sake of yourself and your families and friends!
to poster 7:36
I am neither a cyber-stalker nor a bully, I was just referring to post 5:13 where I was told the intelligence of Lake County has passed me by. I've only posted two posts prior to this yet you seem to think I've been bullying on here alot. I'm just a grandma with a cane. I guess maybe I am ignorant because I just don't understand why we are being led to believe there are operatives out there who are going to contact MIA and I am going to end up with egg on my face. How does that make me the bully?
I am neither a cyber-stalker nor a bully, I was just referring to post 5:13 where I was told the intelligence of Lake County has passed me by. I've only posted two posts prior to this yet you seem to think I've been bullying on here alot. I'm just a grandma with a cane. I guess maybe I am ignorant because I just don't understand why we are being led to believe there are operatives out there who are going to contact MIA and I am going to end up with egg on my face. How does that make me the bully?
By the way Rod, any, ANY and I REPEAT ANY campaigning you do MUST not be on County time! This is a violation! Watch it! Be very careful, I am watching your every move not to waste any more tax payer money! You have been warned!!!
Your VIDEO is invalid, and the editing of your VIDEO is invalid! I agree with the body language you looked stressed and like you were drunk by your swaying!
Your VIDEO is invalid, and the editing of your VIDEO is invalid! I agree with the body language you looked stressed and like you were drunk by your swaying!
If Frank Rivero is not qualified then that shows how badly the lack of judgement is even worse for Mitchell. Apparently, Mitchell is not qualified to know when to hire a good, qualified cop as we are all seeing the reprecautions of his hiring! Put your foot in your mouth on that one didn't ya! :)
Yeah, just how does that make a grandma with a cane those things that you chose to accuse her of? I read this blog for amusement and you just reached the pinacle.
Consequently Rod, your whole demeanor is of outrage! I watched again and see that you are not confident in your deliverance in your speech. Why?
Way to go Sheriff. I dont expect you to be a polished reporter. You hit that one out of the park. Roll out the truth and expose these malcontents and liars for what THEY are.
To the post above at 9:20 PM, clearly you did not get the MEMO?
You have no credibility, you repeat yourself, and are in need of attention? Why? Are you in a position to lose your benefits too?
You have no credibility, you repeat yourself, and are in need of attention? Why? Are you in a position to lose your benefits too?
Is it true Rod cannot campaign on County time? Is this really against the law? Who is watching? I want in on it to, and does it pay? LMAO
Yes it is against the law! And our Sheriff should not be using our County website to respond at all. I'm sure this will make the news how he again is violating the law, and wasting our tax dollars. I'll look forward to the News for this story.
I am a home maker and I went to that site and listened to the audio of the Lt. and Mr. Rivero, this recording in his own words says, he was not offended, and then after not making Sgt. it all changed,
I further went to some other sites and read and tried to get a handle on all I have seen on this blog. I am only a high school Grad with one year of psychology class, but My human instincts tells me that nothing that he claims is valid.
What I do see is a pattern that Rivero can at will claim racial misconduct when he is convent, I personally think all of the Circus atmospheres on this blog is to generate notoriety of his name.
To all the Deputies and other agencies mentioned God Bless You for Your laying in the line daily stand tall and keep on doing your jobs, You are appreciated,
I further went to some other sites and read and tried to get a handle on all I have seen on this blog. I am only a high school Grad with one year of psychology class, but My human instincts tells me that nothing that he claims is valid.
What I do see is a pattern that Rivero can at will claim racial misconduct when he is convent, I personally think all of the Circus atmospheres on this blog is to generate notoriety of his name.
To all the Deputies and other agencies mentioned God Bless You for Your laying in the line daily stand tall and keep on doing your jobs, You are appreciated,
Actually, it is perfectly legal and appropriate for a sheriff to answer allegations of wrongdoing in whatever fashion he feels fit.
Ok Melissa and son! I know who you are! How sad! Are you that desperate Melissa? You have never had a job in your life! Your writings identify you.
To grandma with cane
First of all that was by no means your first post. I doubt you are a gramdma at all but no doubt a woman and no doubt someones wife. You and your other girl friends think it is funny to tag team or you just answer your own posts with one-liners to make it look like you have supporters. You contribute nothing of any value to these posts and you are creepy in a cyber-stalker way. You post to change the subject and people normally ignore you. I know you are located in the Kelseyville area. Women have a certain style and word usage that differs from men. You have a certain style of writing that I have seen all over this blog and it always sings the same song. One of you, or your altra egos doesn't spell well, it is a man that is no-doubt a SO that works nights. Everything makes a pattern and if you study any type of writing you can pick out the simularities. So why don't you either go away or be part of the solution instead of showing everyone how creepy you and your SO friends,buddies,wives really are. "Thy protestest too much" and you are making these deputies look even worse!
First of all that was by no means your first post. I doubt you are a gramdma at all but no doubt a woman and no doubt someones wife. You and your other girl friends think it is funny to tag team or you just answer your own posts with one-liners to make it look like you have supporters. You contribute nothing of any value to these posts and you are creepy in a cyber-stalker way. You post to change the subject and people normally ignore you. I know you are located in the Kelseyville area. Women have a certain style and word usage that differs from men. You have a certain style of writing that I have seen all over this blog and it always sings the same song. One of you, or your altra egos doesn't spell well, it is a man that is no-doubt a SO that works nights. Everything makes a pattern and if you study any type of writing you can pick out the simularities. So why don't you either go away or be part of the solution instead of showing everyone how creepy you and your SO friends,buddies,wives really are. "Thy protestest too much" and you are making these deputies look even worse!
Just watched Mitchell's video, I agree with 8:50, Mitchell looked panicky and tense. Apart from praising himself and attacking the whistle blowers, it was bore. If it were not for its porn quality it would be a total waste. The real question is; Will any of the supervisors call him on producing and publishing a political ad at our expense? His ship is sinking and he's pissing in his own bilge. www.sheriffrivero.com had a very clear and concise rebuttal to Mitchell’s “timeline.” I can’t wait to see what Rivero will say about this video.
To the person who posted:
This is an answer to 4:40
A SWAT team member has got to work as part of a TEAM. These officers have got to trust each other in every reguard. Bla, bla, bla;
SWAT is a county position, thus ruled by the same standards of appointment as a police officer applying for FTO or even a supervisor. SWAT for LCSO is only a part time, as needed position, unlike SFPD, LAPD or Sac PD/SO. Lande passed his probation, worked on the street and handled low and high risk calls. His job (like all other deputies) counted on him assisting other deputies including those SWAT deputies. If Lande can pass the requirements and the required state training, what legal position can you take to deny him a position on SWAT?
I ran this through POST and they were shocked to hear that personality was the only reason a cop was not allowed to be on SWAT. In fact, several federal fair employment laws may be in violation. The SWAT commanders are not physiologists or even have a degree in mental counseling. Many persons in the county are very upset now just by the word “Good Old Boys”. So it seems that to be on SWAT, you must be a GOB.
I reviewed LAPD, LASO and SFPD’s requirements for SWAT. None have a “vote in” type of practice. I was surprised to find that they do required physiological profile on each applicant.
This is an answer to 4:40
A SWAT team member has got to work as part of a TEAM. These officers have got to trust each other in every reguard. Bla, bla, bla;
SWAT is a county position, thus ruled by the same standards of appointment as a police officer applying for FTO or even a supervisor. SWAT for LCSO is only a part time, as needed position, unlike SFPD, LAPD or Sac PD/SO. Lande passed his probation, worked on the street and handled low and high risk calls. His job (like all other deputies) counted on him assisting other deputies including those SWAT deputies. If Lande can pass the requirements and the required state training, what legal position can you take to deny him a position on SWAT?
I ran this through POST and they were shocked to hear that personality was the only reason a cop was not allowed to be on SWAT. In fact, several federal fair employment laws may be in violation. The SWAT commanders are not physiologists or even have a degree in mental counseling. Many persons in the county are very upset now just by the word “Good Old Boys”. So it seems that to be on SWAT, you must be a GOB.
I reviewed LAPD, LASO and SFPD’s requirements for SWAT. None have a “vote in” type of practice. I was surprised to find that they do required physiological profile on each applicant.
Mitchell said Rivero doesn’t have the experience he has. Lets look at this:
Before being sheriff, Mitchell’s only experience was a part time, on call Sacramento deputy. As a Lake Co deputy, he was a detective only for a short time and then a sergeant for only a few years. This qualified him for Sheriff.
Rivero was a FULL time SFPD officer, number 1 in his academy class and a narcotics detective. He ran two mortuaries with numerous employees and made one hell of a profit. He joined Lake Co Sheriff and Mitchell himself even made Rivero a temporary sergeant.
Now I’m not a fan of Rivero’s, in fact I’m hoping someone else will step forward and run (like Chief Burke, Chief McClain (the former Kings County Sheriff) or even retired Captain Markam). Any of these would blow Rivero and Mitchell out of the water. But for now, Mitchell has to go.
Before being sheriff, Mitchell’s only experience was a part time, on call Sacramento deputy. As a Lake Co deputy, he was a detective only for a short time and then a sergeant for only a few years. This qualified him for Sheriff.
Rivero was a FULL time SFPD officer, number 1 in his academy class and a narcotics detective. He ran two mortuaries with numerous employees and made one hell of a profit. He joined Lake Co Sheriff and Mitchell himself even made Rivero a temporary sergeant.
Now I’m not a fan of Rivero’s, in fact I’m hoping someone else will step forward and run (like Chief Burke, Chief McClain (the former Kings County Sheriff) or even retired Captain Markam). Any of these would blow Rivero and Mitchell out of the water. But for now, Mitchell has to go.
I read a few pages back that Gary Frace was part of the GOB/SWAT team. They won't let Lande in for his intelligence, yet they let Frace in when he is semi-literate and dumb as rubber malette! Makes me feel real safe to know they ran off the thinker and kept the stinker!
Captain Markam ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS....oh please you dont want CPD Chief You will be as sorry as us folks who live in his area Burke he has his hands full wearning two hats. City Administrator and CHief, nonetheless a good cop
Ok SWAT expert. Cry me a river (Lande)
Bottom line is No one and I mean no one trusted little weasel Lande. No one trusted his ability. No doubt he is a smart guy…Being only book smart is not a qualification for SWAT. He just got off probation for god sakes. It is Lake County. Not a really fast paced police agency (he did not have that much experience). If his peers did not trust his judgment then he can’t belong on the team. He is a CRY BABY. Cry babies do not belong in law enforcement. He should be an attorney.
Bottom line is No one and I mean no one trusted little weasel Lande. No one trusted his ability. No doubt he is a smart guy…Being only book smart is not a qualification for SWAT. He just got off probation for god sakes. It is Lake County. Not a really fast paced police agency (he did not have that much experience). If his peers did not trust his judgment then he can’t belong on the team. He is a CRY BABY. Cry babies do not belong in law enforcement. He should be an attorney.
I'll take Mitchell's experience as a Deputy, Detective, Sergeant, and Sheriff for many years over Rivero's experience any day.
Rivero was only at SFPD for a few years. What did he do? Ringen himself worked narcotics and was again thrown out of that assignment. So being a Narcotics officer does not make you qualified to be sheriff. Running ovens does not qualify you either.
Rivero was only at SFPD for a few years. What did he do? Ringen himself worked narcotics and was again thrown out of that assignment. So being a Narcotics officer does not make you qualified to be sheriff. Running ovens does not qualify you either.
POST 619 and all others that do not believe in the operations of this site. CORRECTION there is a site, there is a MIA, there is someone that is taking all complaints and there is someone investigating them. I report mine today very causiously and intelligently. I had my own specifications in order to feel comfortable about relaying the information I have. They were absolutely wonderful throughout our conversation and revealed alot more to me than I had ever expected. I will not disclose anything that was said on my behalf nor theres. You can sit here and debate forever and get nowhere. I choose to do more and that was to follow their lead. Hey I still here, still alive, no harrassment from anyone cuz guess what? NO ONE KNOWS! I am finally relieved to have been able to stress my concerns and now it is in their investigators hands! Go to SheriffMitchellWatch@gmail.com and you too can help in being a positive part of the history of what is about to take place for the sake of yourself and your families and friends!
to: Woodrow,
Thank you for taking the time and working through the necessary security. We know that at first it seems a bit overwhelming, but as you well know it is necessary during these difficult times of transistion. You are to be appluded for your concern, and your efforts. You can be assured we are working on a number of connections which relate to your information as well as other input which is beginning to connect the dots if you will. Our thoughts are with you during your difficult times, you know we are going to do everything we can to pierce the veil of corruption and cover-up.
Thank you for taking the time and working through the necessary security. We know that at first it seems a bit overwhelming, but as you well know it is necessary during these difficult times of transistion. You are to be appluded for your concern, and your efforts. You can be assured we are working on a number of connections which relate to your information as well as other input which is beginning to connect the dots if you will. Our thoughts are with you during your difficult times, you know we are going to do everything we can to pierce the veil of corruption and cover-up.
You can rant all you want but no one ever see's answers to the questions. Report after report comes in. These people are always asking for a response. Post 2:15 was a great post, You analyzed very well. The end point concerning Mitchell was spot on. The questions must be answered. But when responses to inquiries are asked for. Nothing, someone comes on and starts hammering. Could someone tell me what is wrong with the end game being the LE of this county working in concert with the good citizens of this county. Meetings, information sharing, conflict resolution that actually works, mutual decisions being made concerning how we utilize law enforcement in this county. A common goal in approach and action agreed upon. Look around many communities have acheived this, Santa Cruz and Santa Barbara being two examples. Humbolt is moving that way. But first the pain, is that what it has to be? Its time for change, its time for this small little county to evolve like many others already have.
Once again a re-post by the administrators of this rag to attempt to stir the pot. You have all been fooled...Please dont bite. This is a blog for those crazy conspiracy idiots who see the CIA and secret cops everwhere. No "MIA"...how stupid. This is good for my morning laugh.
Lande, Ringen, and especially Rivero are not heros who have exposed ANYTHING. In fact when it was time for them to step up they never did. The true definition of a COWARD. Listen to their own words and writings.
And you want Lande on a SWAT team. He cant even stand up for himself. I don't want this guy to come to my aid if I'm in trouble. Go away kid and send me a real cop like the one in the poster.
Lande, Ringen, and especially Rivero are not heros who have exposed ANYTHING. In fact when it was time for them to step up they never did. The true definition of a COWARD. Listen to their own words and writings.
And you want Lande on a SWAT team. He cant even stand up for himself. I don't want this guy to come to my aid if I'm in trouble. Go away kid and send me a real cop like the one in the poster.
Ok LE folks lets talk about the racial issues. any of you LE's want to talk about the past history of the sopher reese(spelling) theater in down town Lakeport, you remember when a lot of Spanish movies were being played there and the local Sheriff would hide out and jump the hispanics coming in and out of the theater. What happened to them after you guys jammed them into your patrol cars? Lot of bad bad stories out there concerning that, talked to a guy today who confirmed this, and get this he is a former sheriff officer who confirms the racial problems that have always taken place in this corrupt county. Any comments boys, well with the exception of the usual denial of anything being wrong?
Once again a re-post. We have a LCSO deputy (Rivero) who said in his own words (there is no problem. I have no problem with anything).
I'll call his, Ringens, and Lande's claims of race descrimination. a fabrication.
Let's talk about WHAT THEY SAID ON CAMERA AND WAHT THEY SAID WHEN THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK UP. NEVER SAID ANYTHING!
I'll call his, Ringens, and Lande's claims of race descrimination. a fabrication.
Let's talk about WHAT THEY SAID ON CAMERA AND WAHT THEY SAID WHEN THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK UP. NEVER SAID ANYTHING!
The true test of integrity is what one does when no one is watching. Ringen and Rivero did nothing when first afforded the opportunity to speak up, in fact denied there was a problem. Now with an audience,and personal gain at stake, they have all the complaints they can muster. Think about it if they can be misleading now what will be next?
Maybe instead of all the name calling those who are unhappy with either of the two current candidates should get behind a candidate all can put there faith in. In that manner we can all come together for a common good. Casting aspersions towards each other is a waste of energy. Lets find common grounds and work toward coming together not being more divisive.
Again and try to grasp this, there will be re-posts and they will be to pass on critical information or to re-post comments important to the community and to maintain thread. You do not run this site, this is a site for the citizens and designed and operated for the removal of Mitchell and Hopkins from office, to see and correct the corruption in our county. It will be utilized throughout the election process if necessary.
To catch everyone a brief overview is as follows: Currently there are roughly 7 different investigations going on, we have people in the field, internally, and in communications with 3 outside agencies, these are direct conversations taking place. I will tell you that our secrecy will be maintained and our efforts will not stop. There are significant connections and we will post one as an example of the things we are looking at. This has been relayed to us by what shall be an un-named source.
How many of you know the connections between Judge Martin and the DA and the sheriffs office. How about His son being one of the right hand men of judge Martin, How about the multiple numbers of people who are wives, How about Crystal Martin who works in the DA's office. Can you spell nepotism, can you say conflict of interest? How about the name Bryan Martin. Ladies and Gentlemen, believe me, there are avenues of corruption that go far and wide, this is just one example of the current investigations going on. This takes times as inside folks have to be careful. This one example is being looked at in great detail and many others as I have mentioned. We are in communications with a number of people who are trying to save this county, and most of you posting us as a terrible site etc. etc. are going to be quite surprised at the level of detail and information that is coming out. We say again, we warn you again, don't be on the wrong side of the fence, before the elections take place Mitchell and Hopkins will be hammered so hard they will not have a chance of making it. The possibility now exists given the current information we are investigation that the majority of you indicating your alliance to Mitchell or Hopkins will melt away or you will simply choose to look foolish in your support.
To catch everyone a brief overview is as follows: Currently there are roughly 7 different investigations going on, we have people in the field, internally, and in communications with 3 outside agencies, these are direct conversations taking place. I will tell you that our secrecy will be maintained and our efforts will not stop. There are significant connections and we will post one as an example of the things we are looking at. This has been relayed to us by what shall be an un-named source.
How many of you know the connections between Judge Martin and the DA and the sheriffs office. How about His son being one of the right hand men of judge Martin, How about the multiple numbers of people who are wives, How about Crystal Martin who works in the DA's office. Can you spell nepotism, can you say conflict of interest? How about the name Bryan Martin. Ladies and Gentlemen, believe me, there are avenues of corruption that go far and wide, this is just one example of the current investigations going on. This takes times as inside folks have to be careful. This one example is being looked at in great detail and many others as I have mentioned. We are in communications with a number of people who are trying to save this county, and most of you posting us as a terrible site etc. etc. are going to be quite surprised at the level of detail and information that is coming out. We say again, we warn you again, don't be on the wrong side of the fence, before the elections take place Mitchell and Hopkins will be hammered so hard they will not have a chance of making it. The possibility now exists given the current information we are investigation that the majority of you indicating your alliance to Mitchell or Hopkins will melt away or you will simply choose to look foolish in your support.
HHHUUUMMM, change here perhaps. Phase 2? All the crazy's are deleted and pro law, pro Mitchell, anti Revero, Ringin & Lande are NOT deleted?????HHHUUUUMMMM>>>>>>>>
I saw Mitchell at the store the other day...He had eggs. I think he hates chickens. To all chicken lovers I call for an investigation! MIA help me. Invoke the powers of the investigation! Chicke lovers PLEASE come to the aid of these poor helpless eggs.
Idiots!
Idiots!
It appears to me tht a great many people in law enforcemn KNOW that Mia is absolutely right in exposing child porn in the rank and file of the LCSO. How come no one in law enforcement has asked questions. Yellow xeroxes? How come someone in LCSO thinks that the paper of today turns yellow? I think that yellow is the color of the LCSO who know about the porn and would rather let their children and your children be at risk. Seems pretty obvious. I think Mia is braver than anyone who posts here.
Come on mister Public Defender. Don't you have a duty to protect that poor innocent man who was slapped on the back of the head. You sir a an officer of the court. You have a duty to report an assault under the color of authority. And you did nothing. I do not believe you. I hope you are not defending anyone from whatever county you are from.
Perhaps a complaint needs to be filed against you for dereliction of duty. Honesty and honor were obvioulsy not part of your oath. Obviously it is not part of your character. Shame on you.
You did not even have the balls to speak up when you were interviewed. You are a bad person. Shame on you.
You like your buddy Lande are book smart but do noth have what it takes to be in the law profession (Lande enforcing and you protecting the innocent).
I am outraged by both of your conduct.
Perhaps a complaint needs to be filed against you for dereliction of duty. Honesty and honor were obvioulsy not part of your oath. Obviously it is not part of your character. Shame on you.
You did not even have the balls to speak up when you were interviewed. You are a bad person. Shame on you.
You like your buddy Lande are book smart but do noth have what it takes to be in the law profession (Lande enforcing and you protecting the innocent).
I am outraged by both of your conduct.
Yellow is waht Lande, Ringen and Rivero and the public defender are for failing to report what they saw and heard. They did not report it because it did not happen!
Come forward with the yellow xeroxes or prove that the LCSO is laced with YELLOW lying officers. I am calling your bluff. Produce the yellow xeroxes which proves Mia is right and if you can not produce them it still proves that you are a liar and in the ranks of the LCSO. It isn't rocket science, so all those that post here against Dan Noyes and Mia are just covering their own tracks. You should all hang your heads in shame for mocking someone brave enough to expose this. Then again you are nothing more than two bit punks covering for Mitchell and his affairs, so why should anyone be surprized?
It is no wonder why people take the law into their own hands in this county or just for go the useless call to the Sheriffs dept; I have never seen people work so hard at not working....
I agree. Post what you got one the web. Let's see it. Yellow xeroxes. Please. Who says that anymore. Scan it in a computer and post it. You got nothing punk. I'll call bullshit AGAIN! This super secret spy stuff is SOOOOOOO funny!
to post 11:20 just for your info, MIA is a blog name that the same person uses on the topix blog threads. She has writen a lot of info about this same subject on those threads. The things she writes about happened a good many years ago and I believe she was married to a LCSO at the time. You must be one of the younger people at the LSCO or one of their friends. Basically this happened before your time. The site Admin. has asked her not to post long drawn out postings here but to turn in her info to this sites email address. She is just trying to point out that the corruption at the SO has been going on for a long time. The reason for the yellowed copies is that they are some years old. To address your fun making of the people posting here, there are many of us following this site. The sales of police scanners is way up. Random people in the county are watching you and/or your buddies/hubbies. When we hear info on the scanner and it is close to where we live, we go check it out! We are not spys, we are people who no longer have faith in law enforcment here in lake county. That is not creepy, that is our right! You are the one who is cyberstalking and you are not helping your cause because you come off as very immature.
To: Ok SWAT expert. Cry me a river (Lande)
You forget there are several persons on SWAT that just came off probation and got on the team. Try looking into your own Policy and Procedures manual and point out "CRY BABY" as a reason not to allow a person on the team. Yep you guessed it, I was once part of your SWAT team. Lande should have been given a chance just like other members like Harvey and others. Let him fail by training, not by a good old boy approach.
You forget there are several persons on SWAT that just came off probation and got on the team. Try looking into your own Policy and Procedures manual and point out "CRY BABY" as a reason not to allow a person on the team. Yep you guessed it, I was once part of your SWAT team. Lande should have been given a chance just like other members like Harvey and others. Let him fail by training, not by a good old boy approach.
Response to "Rivero was only at SFPD for a few years. What did he do? Ringen himself worked narcotics and was again thrown out of that assignment. So being a Narcotics officer does not make you qualified to be sheriff. Running ovens does not qualify you either."
1. Mitchell was only a part time deputy for Sacramento.
2. Ringen was NOT thrown out, he did his time (unlike Lt. McMahon).
3. An oven! Ha, it was two mortuary homes. That is a large staff to run. Just how many persons work for little Lake County's mortuary.
1. Mitchell was only a part time deputy for Sacramento.
2. Ringen was NOT thrown out, he did his time (unlike Lt. McMahon).
3. An oven! Ha, it was two mortuary homes. That is a large staff to run. Just how many persons work for little Lake County's mortuary.
To the response about Brian Martin, his wife and Judge Martin.
I do not support Mitchell, in fact I think he uses his position like a bully and the SWAT GOB examples listed about are a good example. Judge Martin has never been a fan of Mitchell. Go to the lawyers in Mendo and ask. Brain and his wife are good people. His wife just likes helping victims and does a good job. From first hand observations, Brian is a very well minded and knowledgeable person. He is very family oriented and is very professional. Now the management is another example. Watch in the next few months and see if other racial and sexual harassment charges come out. As a deputy, I can tell you there are many more coming.
I do not support Mitchell, in fact I think he uses his position like a bully and the SWAT GOB examples listed about are a good example. Judge Martin has never been a fan of Mitchell. Go to the lawyers in Mendo and ask. Brain and his wife are good people. His wife just likes helping victims and does a good job. From first hand observations, Brian is a very well minded and knowledgeable person. He is very family oriented and is very professional. Now the management is another example. Watch in the next few months and see if other racial and sexual harassment charges come out. As a deputy, I can tell you there are many more coming.
Retired former LCSO ‘Ol Boy, Jeff Markham was at the courthouse today stiffing around the voters registrar’s office for a bone. Rumor has it he told Mitchell he was thinking of running. Mitchell promptly went ape shit and is now searching through the LCSO’s closet for Markham buried skeletons… Meanwhile, The DSA (dirty stinking a holes) bored (not a spelling error Gary) got the news while they were up at the PORAC convention in a hot tub full of pig lard writing on the blogs on the membership’s dime. They were sad to hear that Mitchell will have to take his attention off of attacking Rivero. You can’t make this stuff up!!!
This site has copies from Mia that are not yellow xeroxes and involve Cheif Deputy Perdock and his cohortsin recent times. There are specific names, witnsses, places, times and events that are irrefutable. Yes, Mia was married to an LCSO. She didn't keep quiet because she loves her children and your children and her community, so crucifying her just makes the posters accomplices to these predators of children.
The BOS will to have their copies. One already has had copies for a very long time and holding back. A lot of other people have the copies and the pathology of the results of turning in the good old boys for KNOWN child porn and coverups? An officer turned in Wiley, the juvenile defense attorney for child porn that he was sharing in the courthouse. So all officers are not going to cover for this assault and battery and sex crimes on children. Don't think for a minute they are. For every action there is a reaction and Dan Noyes can make this child porn cover up information the grand finale to the end of the good old boy regime and the world will cheer.
Better confess before you are uncovered. First ones forward get the best deal. There was a delay to gather more inciminating evidence purely because like any cancer in a community it is necessary to get ALL of the cancer. ALL of it and cut it out Don't think there aren't people you "think" are friends that won't jump to turn you in.
The BOS will to have their copies. One already has had copies for a very long time and holding back. A lot of other people have the copies and the pathology of the results of turning in the good old boys for KNOWN child porn and coverups? An officer turned in Wiley, the juvenile defense attorney for child porn that he was sharing in the courthouse. So all officers are not going to cover for this assault and battery and sex crimes on children. Don't think for a minute they are. For every action there is a reaction and Dan Noyes can make this child porn cover up information the grand finale to the end of the good old boy regime and the world will cheer.
Better confess before you are uncovered. First ones forward get the best deal. There was a delay to gather more inciminating evidence purely because like any cancer in a community it is necessary to get ALL of the cancer. ALL of it and cut it out Don't think there aren't people you "think" are friends that won't jump to turn you in.
Check your facts. Ringen was tossed out on his ear for not being able to get along with the supervisor (Sounds like a common theme). He was in just over a year (I think). Not exactly the full term.
Just why do you think people on Morgan Valley tried to burn Paul Simpson out? It wasn't out of their respect for him.
Bring it on fool; You can't because you don't have anything. Dan Noyes is a yellow journalist. Enough said. Stop your threats and BRING IT!
Covert investigations are ongoing. I am sooooo scared.
Covert investigations are ongoing. I am sooooo scared.
Great buy all the scanners you want. I invite you to come out a do a ride along. If you see them do something innappropriate report it. If you see them abuse a suspect REPORT it. Do not be a COWARD thke Rivero Lande or Ringen. Here is an invitation to all the citizens of Lake County. Go ride with a deputy and then make your decision about these guys.
You conspiracy folks go too. See exactly what they do and then post some real facts that you personally observed.
You conspiracy folks go too. See exactly what they do and then post some real facts that you personally observed.
How many ride a longs would it take to have one in each patrol car for all three shifts? What is important is what goes on when they think no one is watching..I'll do my watching from the out side. Thanks for the offer tho.
Go ahead and post just one of the copies and shut these fricken fools up. But then again, all they would come back with it is forged or someone else wrote it or whatever! They are running scared and are pushing for more info. Should we, or shouldn't we give them just a lil itty bitty taste?
Ride Along, No Thanks. My grandson did a ride along with one of them and said it scared him to death. The cop was about a mile away from the car he wanted to pull over and hit the floor board at almost 100 mph. Mind you, we are talking about a minor being in the car and seat belt hahaha, he wasn't even told to fasten it up!
Again, get your facts correct. Ringen did his time, it was MCMAHON that was kicked out of NTF! SWAT guy, if you rely on the "must get alone method", how did Harvey and Lewis end up on SWAT. Lewis couldn't even pass the physical and refused to take it again after his training. Want more?
As in the military, you are not turned down for the Rangers, SEALS, Recon or ParaRescue based ONLY on your fellow military personnel voting you in. So what makes your SWAT different?
As in the military, you are not turned down for the Rangers, SEALS, Recon or ParaRescue based ONLY on your fellow military personnel voting you in. So what makes your SWAT different?
opps SWAT guy, that was supposed to read "must get along method". One othe thing about Lewis, you even deployed him into action as a SWAT guy. Good pick!
RINGEN was booted and went back to patrol disgruntled and a malcontent. Tried to get another LE fired but that did not work. Are you sure you want to throw that stone?
Post 12:28 thanks for the post concerning the Judge Martin connections posting. That first post was not really to question the integrity of family members of the judge, but these types of relationships and connections most of them built up over the years without much oversight need to be looked at closely, given the current environment we have in the county. collusion can be a terrible condition for which improprieties begin to bring down the whole system of justice. As you pointed out the question of Management in your mind is the major problem. As an LE who is posting with an excellent presentation and honest overview it is a breath of fresh air. We would hope some of your other peers would have the same aptitude for communication as you. Thank you
I not sure that the bantering going on concerning who is a good cop, what is a good cop, is going to come to any defined conclusion of what that is. What appears to be the case however is that we have both and far to many of bad in lake county. It also appears we have very very bad leadership, and we have an incompetent DA. The combination of Mitchell and Hopkins has nearly destroyed the rank and file of the Sheriffs department. Taking a ride with a sheriff so one can see the trials and tribulations of their job is not necessary. There are two sides to that coin. First is you choose the position, second is we already have acknowledged the necessity of a honest, solid LE that is communicating with the public and in concert with the public policy that is just and fair is maintained. We do not have that currently, and anyone would be a fool to say we do. Next is a post of a month or so ago, from a former sheriff, he said this to paraphrase. When you become a cop you become a servant to the public. You get up in the morning, like a million others with jobs, drag your ass to the kitchen get a cup of coffee and trudge off to work to do your job period. Those police that are constantly looking for approval about how the public showed see them as heros will always be unhappy.
alright do the post without the boner pop comment, speak clearly and have some degree of tact. Just state your position, without all the extra verbal crap, can you do that?
since MIA joined the moderators of this site those of Us on Topix have been completely thrilled, her ranting's and Nancy Drew Mysteries cease to clot the main arteries of that forum......thank you MIA, You finally found some more *NUT JOBS your (*TOPIX ID) to make you feel at home.
AND YES THE YELLOW ZEROX COPIES YOU SEND OUT TO ANYONE/ALL WHO POST THEIR PO BOX HAS GOTTO BE THE TICKET THAT GOT YOU IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR. if THEY BELIEVE YOU THEY WILL BELIEVE MOST ANYTHING
AND YES THE YELLOW ZEROX COPIES YOU SEND OUT TO ANYONE/ALL WHO POST THEIR PO BOX HAS GOTTO BE THE TICKET THAT GOT YOU IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR. if THEY BELIEVE YOU THEY WILL BELIEVE MOST ANYTHING
Poster November 20 1:27
This poster who talked about the yellow xeroxes is admitting that ALL of the LCSO was crucifying this woman as a witness said Janet Simpson openly admtted, and KNEW about the child porn and didn't come forward. It is obvious that she spoke the truth, and like the killing of Lynn Thornton, Rod Mitchell will go to great lengths to cover up his involvement in the porn connection. She is brave to hold the course. All of the LCSO who knew about this should be fired and exposed for what they are and what they have done. Fired? Yes, and jailed. Starting with their leaders. Rod Mitchell is a poor exccuse for a human being let alone a Head Sheriff. Putting our kids at risk for some sick LCSO entertainment makes him an abomination to humanity.
This poster who talked about the yellow xeroxes is admitting that ALL of the LCSO was crucifying this woman as a witness said Janet Simpson openly admtted, and KNEW about the child porn and didn't come forward. It is obvious that she spoke the truth, and like the killing of Lynn Thornton, Rod Mitchell will go to great lengths to cover up his involvement in the porn connection. She is brave to hold the course. All of the LCSO who knew about this should be fired and exposed for what they are and what they have done. Fired? Yes, and jailed. Starting with their leaders. Rod Mitchell is a poor exccuse for a human being let alone a Head Sheriff. Putting our kids at risk for some sick LCSO entertainment makes him an abomination to humanity.
Actually post 3:33 MIA is posting very little and because we know how to communicate we have connected and worked it out. You see small thinker, there are better ways to achieve what is necessary, you being the neanderthal of the mental ladder cannot imagine how that might be done. By the way you can stop with the CAPS posting it only lowers our mental picture of you, you know for someone who appears to be quite over the edge, you sure do throw stones alot.
Brian & Crystal Martin ~ two of the most upstanding people, narry a hint of anything inapproaite or of conflict with their jobs or anyone related to them who work in and for the county,
I am very proud to say I know them and respect them further their kids are the center of their world.
I am very proud to say I know them and respect them further their kids are the center of their world.
Just to re-post this method of posting to this citizens group. If you wish to post information to us via a secure method, post it to sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com
we have developed a number of different safe avenues of gathering the information and if necessary getting it to the proper people, from the press to higher level individuals. We are doing this for several people right now. In due time of course these will be posted on the site.
By the way never got an answer on this one, and one more thing, could someone in LE come clean on Dutra and Garzoli, you know now no one is tracking these comments, this is secure in all manners, I wish the other LE poster who has such a good post would comment on these two guys.
Flash, someone aint telling the truth: Perfect example of the house of Mitchell falling down, i.e. sheriff investigation and response timelines: Ok sheriffs office we have a stabbing as reported in the record bee. Capt. Bauman reported no leads no information no one found at the location of the incident which was reported to be in the front of the Lake builders(ace) store hwy 20 nice. Bauman reports the call in at 5:20 then said units sent found nothing in the area. Well then why were witness's on scene and the stabbing victim on scene till nearly 6:00 and no one I mean no police units showed up? Well if you had done your job sheriffs dept. and actually showed up which you did not, and I mean people in the parking lot till after 6:00 discussing the situation, you would have found some things out. Did you know that after the victim was stabbed, a truck pick-up with two males in it this was at appox 5:40 drove up to the passenger jumped out with a 2x4 and went after the man again, the man ran to the front of the lake builders store and the person jumped back in the truck and drove off. Oh you didn't know that, in fact you never showed up did you Captain Bauman. Two children called this in, and no one showed up to a stabbing? Is that right Captain B.Did you know their were witness's who could have given you this information if you had showed up. And if you still want to say you showed up why didn't you ask anyone any questions? They were there standing around waiting. Did you know that at appox 5:50 another car arrived and picked up the stabbing victim? Makes timeline sense doesn't it you idiots because the paper reported the hospital arrival of the man at appox 6:00. Oh know you didn't know that at the time did you. But your units were there you said. Did you know that a call was made the next morning by a person to the sheriffs dept. re-reporting the incident and wanting to give more information. Do you know what the sheriffs operator said, in a very mean and with a very rotten attitude? She and I am quoting "We already know all about that, we have all the information unless you have more information we don't need anymore calls!!!!! Boy this is classic excellent police work isn't it Mitchell. What the hell is going on in this county? Someone from LE want to respond to this wonderful bit of police work? Ladies and gentlemen of this county be concerned, be very concerned. Ok LE boys you want anymore defined FACTS then that to prove your total incompetence? I'll bet not a single response, just like no response to the sopher reese in lakeport post, just like the no response to the Dutra post. I say again what the hell is going on?
we have developed a number of different safe avenues of gathering the information and if necessary getting it to the proper people, from the press to higher level individuals. We are doing this for several people right now. In due time of course these will be posted on the site.
By the way never got an answer on this one, and one more thing, could someone in LE come clean on Dutra and Garzoli, you know now no one is tracking these comments, this is secure in all manners, I wish the other LE poster who has such a good post would comment on these two guys.
Flash, someone aint telling the truth: Perfect example of the house of Mitchell falling down, i.e. sheriff investigation and response timelines: Ok sheriffs office we have a stabbing as reported in the record bee. Capt. Bauman reported no leads no information no one found at the location of the incident which was reported to be in the front of the Lake builders(ace) store hwy 20 nice. Bauman reports the call in at 5:20 then said units sent found nothing in the area. Well then why were witness's on scene and the stabbing victim on scene till nearly 6:00 and no one I mean no police units showed up? Well if you had done your job sheriffs dept. and actually showed up which you did not, and I mean people in the parking lot till after 6:00 discussing the situation, you would have found some things out. Did you know that after the victim was stabbed, a truck pick-up with two males in it this was at appox 5:40 drove up to the passenger jumped out with a 2x4 and went after the man again, the man ran to the front of the lake builders store and the person jumped back in the truck and drove off. Oh you didn't know that, in fact you never showed up did you Captain Bauman. Two children called this in, and no one showed up to a stabbing? Is that right Captain B.Did you know their were witness's who could have given you this information if you had showed up. And if you still want to say you showed up why didn't you ask anyone any questions? They were there standing around waiting. Did you know that at appox 5:50 another car arrived and picked up the stabbing victim? Makes timeline sense doesn't it you idiots because the paper reported the hospital arrival of the man at appox 6:00. Oh know you didn't know that at the time did you. But your units were there you said. Did you know that a call was made the next morning by a person to the sheriffs dept. re-reporting the incident and wanting to give more information. Do you know what the sheriffs operator said, in a very mean and with a very rotten attitude? She and I am quoting "We already know all about that, we have all the information unless you have more information we don't need anymore calls!!!!! Boy this is classic excellent police work isn't it Mitchell. What the hell is going on in this county? Someone from LE want to respond to this wonderful bit of police work? Ladies and gentlemen of this county be concerned, be very concerned. Ok LE boys you want anymore defined FACTS then that to prove your total incompetence? I'll bet not a single response, just like no response to the sopher reese in lakeport post, just like the no response to the Dutra post. I say again what the hell is going on?
Interesting we get the excellent reports concerning Bryan and Crystal Martin, and that is good to hear, its already been explained why these things need to be looked at and that in the first post no opinion was expressed except the family connections. I might suggest that the stellar opinion in that regard does not draw a direct line to Judge Martin, from inside information it appears there is going to be a lot to look at in the area of judges in this county. This is a state matter as is for all county judges, and the methods and best practices for doing that are being looked at.
What's the BFD about the SWAT team. Isn't it a colateral assignment and used as needed. There is no way in a small county they could get any real experience as a SWAT group. The real heroes are the deputies working in the field.
Brian Martin was the creative genius behind the porn quality video shot with a bathroom pin hole camera posted by Mitchell on the county’s website. He has been Mitchell’s Golden Boy, or as Ringen put, his Sucky Boy, since he arrived from Pisso Beach. He cried so much about the Sucky Boy comment that Mitchell put Ringen on admin leave to pacify him.
well I'll tell you one thing it sure sounds like there is discontent between those that are called swat and those that are street cops. I got a feeling not being in LE that the swat guys think their s=== don't think but their farts give them away. It sounds like those on swat are seen by others as part of the GOB network in the sheriffs department. Don't know the details but can someone confirm this is an aspect of the reality of it?
To post 3:52
The victim in this case, Michael Maitland is a convicted, registered and certified drug offender. He has been addicted to methamphetamine for better than 20 years. This type of person has burned out the better part of their brain. They cannot tell the truth because it went out the window about 19 years ago.
I challenge anyone to get two stories of the same event that are vaguely similar from this dude. Now, add the fact that he was at a casino, drugged up, got his face rearranged by someone he offended, and then try, as a peace officer, to get some information about what happened when he is not the one who called the cops and does not want to report this.
The victim in this case, Michael Maitland is a convicted, registered and certified drug offender. He has been addicted to methamphetamine for better than 20 years. This type of person has burned out the better part of their brain. They cannot tell the truth because it went out the window about 19 years ago.
I challenge anyone to get two stories of the same event that are vaguely similar from this dude. Now, add the fact that he was at a casino, drugged up, got his face rearranged by someone he offended, and then try, as a peace officer, to get some information about what happened when he is not the one who called the cops and does not want to report this.
I noticed our fearless sheriff was wearing his gun in his campaign speech. More proof that that the uniform doesn't make the man. Next time he might try his swat costume.
The question on the post was not what was the person like. It was the totally fabrication of the events that took place, the report in the paper could never have happened. Baumans account is wrong. The question was two children call in a stabbing and no-one shows up. Re-read the post and you'll get what the questions are.
Anyone notice how Hopkins is being real quiet right now, He is trying to stay out of the line of fire. Not going to work my friend, we got some stuff coming your way. Well actually you have done enough, one would hope following the Dinius screw up you would have stepped down. Of course Rodney did throw him under the bus in his report, suspect those two are not getting along to well right now.
Well it looks like there have two totally different perspectives on Mr. Martin, by the way again no-body says a word on Dutra. You ask and ask and you get nothing, not good, not bad, nothing. What is up with that?
What's up with that?? Maybe, just Maybe he did not do anything and it is a fabrication, much like a lot of the posts here>>>>
RINGEN was booted and went back to patrol disgruntled and a malcontent. Tried to get another LE fired but that did not work. Are you sure you want to throw that stone?
Sure go ahead, as I said he was not kicked off, that was McMahon you idiot. then about a year later Mitchell promoted him to sergeant. Ringen took Mitchell to court before and bet him in his own game. Don't believe me, look at the LDF website for the court summary.
Sure go ahead, as I said he was not kicked off, that was McMahon you idiot. then about a year later Mitchell promoted him to sergeant. Ringen took Mitchell to court before and bet him in his own game. Don't believe me, look at the LDF website for the court summary.
You think the photo next to Mitchell’s office was bad, Let me tell you about what Lt. Garzoli, had hanging on the wall behind his desk. It was his wife holding an abalone shell above her head while the neck (that looked like a male organ) slung down towards her face while she smiled in a very provocative way. The smile on her face said it all.
The comment about Markam for sheriff was great! I spoke to him several months ago and he wanted nothing to do with it, but he admitted that several persons were asking him to run. Markham has the training and expereince. If he did speak to Mitchell about running for sheriff, I bet mitchell shit his pants.
Well because of that last comment about Garzoli's picture I have now cancelled the trip with my 6th grade classroom to visit the sheriffs office so that they for themselves can see what goes on within LE and be able to trust them. Got any other ideas I can present as a field trip for them?
Anyone notice how Hopkins is being real quiet right now, He is trying to stay out of the line of fire. Not going to work my friend, we got some stuff coming your way. Well actually you have done enough, one would hope following the Dinius screw up you would have stepped down. Of course Rodney did throw him under the bus in his report, suspect those two are not getting along to well right now.
Scanners come in wonderful in order to keep informed of where and when something is coming down. Gray Frace in his report stated officers were concerned after the News report that their jobs would be more difficult because the citizens didn't know where to place their trust. They should be! For all the good guys out there, its time you step forward. Some state they don't see any of what is being said going on. Then its high time you start paying attention. It's sad it has come to this and yes your job will be more difficult, but you choose this job and if you can't stand by the oath you took, you need to find work elsewhere in another field. The rotten eggs have spoiled it for you and its up to you to join the citizens in throwing them out of the basket. Now LE will be wondering on each and every call they get if they are being set up! If there will be someone watching! If they will report something different than what they do! This is a good thing. Maybe now we will get the true facts!
By the way we had a security bump on the thread, so if anyone needs to pick up the end of the old thread, just click older at the top of the page.
Thanks
Thanks
I also read the statement given by Gary Frace as Pres. of the deputy's union on the lakenew.com site. I would bet that out of 65 members of their union, less then 12 showed up at the meeting. I am sorry but if I was a member of that union I would have concerns. A emergency meeting must give the "rank and file" at least 24 hour notice for ANY meeting to be valid! I would love to get my hands on that meeting's member sign-in sheet because every name on there would show you Mitchell's little band of thugs. With Gary Frace leading the way and Dutra close behind.
You dumbass, nobody is that stupid to hang a photo of your wife in your office holding it in the air and mocking it sexually. That is why Garzoli took it down just before he was demoted. If it was simply a funny joke than why didn't it stay on his wall like all the other photo's (his kids riding dirt bikes for example).
Yes I'm a deputy and I have more examples if you want.
Yes I'm a deputy and I have more examples if you want.
About the union. Yes you are right, but it is a little more than a few show up. I usually see about 15 and a few from the DA's Investigators office.
Being a union president puts you in the cross hairs. Outspoken persons in the union like Macedo, Martin and a few detectives will bitch but refuse to run or even take a position on the board. Frace took the position because nobody else would.
As I warned some of the members, taking a stance against Rivero is bad news. Not because I support him, but if he does win, the union and the major players are in his cross hairs. Think back to when Mitchell didn't get support for sheriff from management. Ostini, Curran and Jones went down. I suggested we not support anyone at this point.
Being a union president puts you in the cross hairs. Outspoken persons in the union like Macedo, Martin and a few detectives will bitch but refuse to run or even take a position on the board. Frace took the position because nobody else would.
As I warned some of the members, taking a stance against Rivero is bad news. Not because I support him, but if he does win, the union and the major players are in his cross hairs. Think back to when Mitchell didn't get support for sheriff from management. Ostini, Curran and Jones went down. I suggested we not support anyone at this point.
support the one who shows experience in Leadership,and tenure, and is running for office for the right reasons.
lmbo has it all come down to what a fella has on the wall instead of the content of his character, guess if you looked long enough you can find something to post about.
PS I am going to check My walls incase the Home Interior Possy is out patroling...wait...doesn't matter I am not running to or away from anything....
PS I am going to check My walls incase the Home Interior Possy is out patroling...wait...doesn't matter I am not running to or away from anything....
To post's 9:39 and the idea behind post 9:32 on Garzoli. Those were good post's specifically 9:39 was even handed and written well. I think it would be good to please post more of your personal insight. It sounds like you could paint an accurate picture of both sides of the coin in a non-offense manner and in an intelligent manner. several questions on the table that never get any clarification are the MO of Dutra, More on the Martin connections, and on why the DSA is so attached to Mitchell, at least that is the perception on the street. Thanks, and as well if you wish to post(this goes for everyone) as the site said, you can post off the public record you can send a message to sheriffmitchellwatch@gmail.com
I hope you can give us some clarity on these issues.
Also the Garzoli post I think there needs to be more clarity concerning him, you get the feeling there are a lot of ghosts in the closet with that one.
I hope you can give us some clarity on these issues.
Also the Garzoli post I think there needs to be more clarity concerning him, you get the feeling there are a lot of ghosts in the closet with that one.
To post 1017, your right its not the poster itself, it is what it represents that the people see. It is in a word ignorant, and the lack of depth you display is exactly what the poster represents. This is perhaps why you are drawn to it? I might suggest you try and see from just a little bit more depth. You would display your macho opinion of the virtues of the poster yet not see how foolish you look in the eyes of the majority of the county. I won't diminish your character anymore by suggestion that you believe Mitchell should stay in office either. However I suspect we know the answer to that.
Wake up and smell the coffee...The only people that were at that meeting were the G O B's."Farse" oh wait, Frase is a ractist and there is proof in one of his recent arrests at a reservation. This will come out as well as his cronies crimes against the people in Lake County. There are really good officers in the sheriffs dept., to bad they have to take the flack of the really bad ones. As for holding a grudge I don't see Rivero that way. If you have done something to worry about then be very concerned, but if you haven't and just don't back him, its alright everyone has a opinion and I believe he is okay with that. Dan Noyes is in no way finished with this..theres more to come.
Dan Noyes has found a teat to hang onto thereby giving him a front story and keeping him in the public eye and Milking along hoping for a big cut of the pie. He sucks as a reporter Pun Intended,don't let him fool you that he cares about Lake County other than just getting exposure.
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Deputy Gary Frace is the President of the Lake County Deputy Sheriff's Association? His good friend is Joe Dutra, the son-in-law of candidate for DA, Dough Rhodes? That can't be good for Lake County.
ED as usual your an idiot, and hardly able to analyze this level of things. Stay in your play yard and let the big boys figure this out. You mind set is about 3 bricks shy of a full load. Take your time and write with some intelligence, vs out of your ---
Farce's commentary quote is so much crap in the record bee. This guy is really running scared, The DSA is a bunch of crooks, they are beholden to Mitchell and Hopkins, and are the right arm of the GOB network. No need to hear from them or Farce, any more.
To the guy who posted:support the one who shows experience in Leadership,and tenure, and is running for office for the right reasons.
That's the same think Sheriff Write tried to use when he ran against Mitchell. Good luck!
That's the same think Sheriff Write tried to use when he ran against Mitchell. Good luck!
TO POSTER.....November 21, 2009 1:45 PM
The reason You can't understand what I post is, because IT IS WAY OVER YOU HEAD NOW GET ON BACK TO THE LIBRARY AND LOOK UP SOME WORDS THAT ADULTS USE. But do be sure to keep raising Your hand when You want to go Potty. LMBO
The reason You can't understand what I post is, because IT IS WAY OVER YOU HEAD NOW GET ON BACK TO THE LIBRARY AND LOOK UP SOME WORDS THAT ADULTS USE. But do be sure to keep raising Your hand when You want to go Potty. LMBO
Because it is way over "you" head, I profess you make my point for me. Thanks for participating. P.S. you really don't have to do the caps. I really can't hear you yelling, really I swear it the sound doesn't go over the net.
Unanswered questions:
What is the ultimate overview of Garzoli what roles did he play whats the full story behind the heli-ride. Whose signature is on the check for the cost of the copter?
What are all the Judge Martin connections in the sheriffs and DA office?
Is Rhodes still running despite the inquiry into his training session in Santa Rosa.
Why did Hopkins really go after Dinius?
When will Dinius file his lawsuit
What is the current realtionship between Hopkins and Mitchell
Why does Mitchell own the DSA
Why doesn't any one talk about Dutra, and the Bubba Meth arrest connection
Is Markham going to run/
Will leave it there for now
What is the ultimate overview of Garzoli what roles did he play whats the full story behind the heli-ride. Whose signature is on the check for the cost of the copter?
What are all the Judge Martin connections in the sheriffs and DA office?
Is Rhodes still running despite the inquiry into his training session in Santa Rosa.
Why did Hopkins really go after Dinius?
When will Dinius file his lawsuit
What is the current realtionship between Hopkins and Mitchell
Why does Mitchell own the DSA
Why doesn't any one talk about Dutra, and the Bubba Meth arrest connection
Is Markham going to run/
Will leave it there for now
Hey GOB: Where is the destruction site for all of that Pot and Meth that has been confiscated? Can the public observe the destruction? In other counties they can.
Garzoli took a demotion over the helicopter stuff, that way Mitchell can't take any actions. The DA can if it found to be criminal.
Mitchell knew Garzoli was piloting. Everyone on day shift and detectives knew this. Almost every command meeting (once a week), we would see Garzoli walking around in his flight suit that clearly said "PILOT".
The Dinius case is over, but there are still several questions I'd like to know like? If Mitchell was on scene and interacted with everyone including Perdock, where is his report on the sheriff's website? Why did he not ask for Napa or Mendo to respond since they are right next door. Is Beland fighting for his job?
Judge Martin's son is a sergeant with LCSO. His wife works at the DA's Victim Witness office. I've found both to be very professional and nice to work with.
Hopkins and Mitchell interact at least once a week. I think Hopkins is laying low now because the heat is on Mitchell and off him.
The SDA doesn't dare try and cross Mitchell or even stand up to him. Beland got fired and when Ringen stoop up, he got nailed with IA's and placed behind a desk in front of the sheriff's office. Brown stood over him every day waiting for Ringen to do something. This sent a clear message to all the employees NOT TO CHALLENGE MANAGEMENT. You will NEVER get a current deputy (except Rivero) to come forward until they are fired or quit.
Dutra and the Bubba Meth? Please explain?
Almost all the deputies wish Markham runs. It has management shaking, but for now we don't know.
Mitchell knew Garzoli was piloting. Everyone on day shift and detectives knew this. Almost every command meeting (once a week), we would see Garzoli walking around in his flight suit that clearly said "PILOT".
The Dinius case is over, but there are still several questions I'd like to know like? If Mitchell was on scene and interacted with everyone including Perdock, where is his report on the sheriff's website? Why did he not ask for Napa or Mendo to respond since they are right next door. Is Beland fighting for his job?
Judge Martin's son is a sergeant with LCSO. His wife works at the DA's Victim Witness office. I've found both to be very professional and nice to work with.
Hopkins and Mitchell interact at least once a week. I think Hopkins is laying low now because the heat is on Mitchell and off him.
The SDA doesn't dare try and cross Mitchell or even stand up to him. Beland got fired and when Ringen stoop up, he got nailed with IA's and placed behind a desk in front of the sheriff's office. Brown stood over him every day waiting for Ringen to do something. This sent a clear message to all the employees NOT TO CHALLENGE MANAGEMENT. You will NEVER get a current deputy (except Rivero) to come forward until they are fired or quit.
Dutra and the Bubba Meth? Please explain?
Almost all the deputies wish Markham runs. It has management shaking, but for now we don't know.
Post 7:51 thanks for the overview, sorry about the bubba question it was a post quite a few comments back in the Thread, in short, several individuals have posted indicating there was a situation where Dutra was reported have pulled a young guy over, and found a bit of pot, asked him where he got it, the kid refused, he was then told to look at the floorboard and low and behold there was a bag of crank on the floor. The officer asked him again if he wanted to say where he got the pot from. The kid said, quoting "fuck you". He was arrested for the crank, and actually went to court. That's the short of it. Don't know if that helps you, or anyone else for that matter. That having been said, the rest of your comment was well put.
Can you describe if you think its true that this election is going to be a bloody one, once it gets going. Could Mitchell really survive, with what appears more to come prior to the elections. And how long can Hopkins lay low. Is it true that it might have been Mitchell who leaned on Hopkins to push the trial on Kinius? A 5 year old could have seen he was not going to win that thing. What compelled Hopkins to push that trial? Was it part so they could plea change and therefore make it impossible to charge Perdock with the higher crime? Sorry all for the torrent of questions but these are important issues. Thanks for the input
Can you describe if you think its true that this election is going to be a bloody one, once it gets going. Could Mitchell really survive, with what appears more to come prior to the elections. And how long can Hopkins lay low. Is it true that it might have been Mitchell who leaned on Hopkins to push the trial on Kinius? A 5 year old could have seen he was not going to win that thing. What compelled Hopkins to push that trial? Was it part so they could plea change and therefore make it impossible to charge Perdock with the higher crime? Sorry all for the torrent of questions but these are important issues. Thanks for the input
Post 8:14 - I will take a stab at your questions. Yes, I do believe this election and the debates leading up to it, will be a bloody mess. Why? So much has be coming out and surfacing on many different issues, past and present that everyone within is on pins and needles, not knowing whether the sky is falling. Fingers are starting to point in many directions leaving doubt within them all. Who is about to throw who under the bus and for what!
Your right about any 5 yr old. We all knew the wrong person was being charged and for what reasons. As well as, we all knew that Dinius would be the one to suffer, which he did, for three long years! What compelled that trial and many like it, is just what the community is in a outrage about. The GOB network! This time those within have pushed the badge and the authority way to far and the people are no longer going to allow it. Because of this, we have the good guys vs the bad guys. Problem being, who are exactly the bad guys? There are many within the community who have gone lets say undercover as a action group, collectively collecting information and plenty of it, in order to bring a case or several against the bad guys. Of course, when something to this nature happens you have battle. As far as Perdock being charged for the murder of Lynn Thornton, the statue ran out thanks to Hopkins and Mitchell and all the others who sat on the stand and flat lied. They were all caught lying and they should be brought up on Perjury charges. Did that happen either, Hell NO! Perdock to this day is out on paid leave, living with his mommy and still taking daily walks within the neighborhood. Although, I don't believe he will be returning to LCSO. Yes your questions are important questions. All I can say is if you to are outraged by either past or present actions within our county officials, take a stance and stick to it. Join the community and report anything and everything of suspicion. Welcome to your new life in Lake County!
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Your right about any 5 yr old. We all knew the wrong person was being charged and for what reasons. As well as, we all knew that Dinius would be the one to suffer, which he did, for three long years! What compelled that trial and many like it, is just what the community is in a outrage about. The GOB network! This time those within have pushed the badge and the authority way to far and the people are no longer going to allow it. Because of this, we have the good guys vs the bad guys. Problem being, who are exactly the bad guys? There are many within the community who have gone lets say undercover as a action group, collectively collecting information and plenty of it, in order to bring a case or several against the bad guys. Of course, when something to this nature happens you have battle. As far as Perdock being charged for the murder of Lynn Thornton, the statue ran out thanks to Hopkins and Mitchell and all the others who sat on the stand and flat lied. They were all caught lying and they should be brought up on Perjury charges. Did that happen either, Hell NO! Perdock to this day is out on paid leave, living with his mommy and still taking daily walks within the neighborhood. Although, I don't believe he will be returning to LCSO. Yes your questions are important questions. All I can say is if you to are outraged by either past or present actions within our county officials, take a stance and stick to it. Join the community and report anything and everything of suspicion. Welcome to your new life in Lake County!
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